Thread: Transgender Man in Girl's locker room

Originally Posted by ftmom

I honestly cant believe that this person was offended and surprised by this reaction. How is anyone supposed to know you are transgendered when you are naked? Honestly, If I walked into a womans change room and there was a man walking around naked, I wouldnt stop to ask him what gender he identified with, I would simply go complain and expect the staff to have him removed. She had to have known this would happen.

My biggest issue with this, isnt that this particular woman is in the womans locker room. If she had been more discreet it would not be an issue at all. My problem is that allowing someone with male genitalia to change in the locker room with young ladies and girls, is that it opens up for a pedophile to claim he is allowed in there because he is transgendered. There is no way to 'prove' what gender you identify with and while I dont believe that this guy dressed as a woman for 3 years just to go into the girls locker room, you open yourself to a situation where the staff is not able to differentiate between legitimate and bogus claims and this could put young people at risk.

Our pool has a family changing room where there are large stalls to change in in addition to the men and womans room. It is used by men, women and children. I dont believe asking a transgendered person to use a room like this is discrimination, as I think everyone's safety and rights are important. Not just the transgendered persons.

That's a good point. I'd be more apt to say "WTF are you doing?" than intuitively know he was transgendered and felt more comfortable in the women's change room.

I did want to say that I found "College Allows Transgender Man to Expose Himself to Little Girls" to be a really over the top sensationalistic headline for this article. "College Allows Transgender Man to Use Women's Locker Room" would probably be more accurate. I don't think the college is like "Totally, expose yourself to little girls, we're down with that..."

Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal

I did want to say that I found "College Allows Transgender Man to Expose Himself to Little Girls" to be a really over the top sensationalistic headline for this article. "College Allows Transgender Man to Use Women's Locker Room" would probably be more accurate. I don't think the college is like "Totally, expose yourself to little girls, we're down with that..."

To say a woman's locker room would imply that only woman used the locker room when in fact little girls do use the locker room.

Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers

To say a woman's locker room would imply that only woman used the locker room when in fact little girls do use the locker room.

Maybe I'm not fully understanding what you mean Bonita, but whenever I see "Women's" on a locker room I assume there will be girls in there too, even little boys.

Alissa was saying that Fox's title was over dramatic. I was saying that not having little girls in the title does not portray the situation. I would not be happy if this happened in front of me, but I would be livid if it happened in front of my girls.

If he is obeying the law then he is right. I don't agree but he's right.

I'm not okay with this. Gender Identity is something subjective and I think does open doors for pedophiles (we'll use men and young children here but I am well aware that's not the only instance) to use that as a defense to expose themselves. I'm not being insensitive for those with gender identity concerns but either way it is unfair and I have to be unfair to the adult than a child or another innocent person who may not expect it.

I would be in line with someone in the middle of a sex change to complete sex change being able to use the gender's room that they are assigning to. "looks the part" so to speak and makes others comfortable.

I'm not a fan of rules that allow for the comfort of one at the expense of most others.

Originally Posted by Jessica80

If he is obeying the law then he is right. I don't agree but he's right.

How is he obeying the law? I am completely open to being wrong, but I thought until your sex change was complete and your birth certificate changed you have to use the rest room/changing room that your genitals fit with. Does this very by state?

Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers

Alissa was saying that Fox's title was over dramatic. I was saying that not having little girls in the title does not portray the situation. I would not be happy if this happened in front of me, but I would be livid if it happened in front of my girls.

I do think "Allows to Expose Himself to Little Girls" is overly dramatic.

How about " "College Allows Transgender Man to Use Women's Locker Room Despite Possible Presence of Children"

Transgendered does not equal pervert. These are two very different things and the mere fact that a person is in the women's locker room does not mean they aren't a pervert.

Many male pedophiles could just hide out in the men's locker room/restroom to sneak a peek at young boys changing. Or expose himself to them.

Let's say this person who has a penis was sitting in the sauna with legs spread apart. Would there still be the outrage if it was the men's locker room and 6 YO boys might be in there? If so, then this isn't really about a person with a penis in the women's sauna; it's about the behavior itself. Would the public support his right to expose himself to young boys solely because he is in the same locker room as them?

*If* the reason for the public display or "claiming" to be transgendered is to get sexually aroused by it, then the person is clearly in the wrong and possibly committing a crime.

Originally Posted by ethanwinfield

Let's say this person who has a penis was sitting in the sauna with legs spread apart. Would there still be the outrage if it was the men's locker room and 6 YO boys might be in there? If so, then this isn't really about a person with a penis in the women's sauna; it's about the behavior itself. Would the public support his right to expose himself to young boys solely because he is in the same locker room as them?

No there wouldn't be the same outrage because a little boy would have the same thing so he wouldn't be shocked by seeing that. It wouldn't be any different than using a men's restroom where they see the same thing. That is completely different than a 6 year old girl that is not used to seeing an adult male naked.