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    Yes, I am not at all saying that transgendered = pervert, I'm just saying that there should be a little sensitivity that most women and girls are not comfortable seeing strange penises in the locker room where they are changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Transgendered does not equal pervert. These are two very different things and the mere fact that a person is in the women's locker room does not mean they aren't a pervert.

    Many male pedophiles could just hide out in the men's locker room/restroom to sneak a peek at young boys changing. Or expose himself to them.

    Let's say this person who has a penis was sitting in the sauna with legs spread apart. Would there still be the outrage if it was the men's locker room and 6 YO boys might be in there? If so, then this isn't really about a person with a penis in the women's sauna; it's about the behavior itself. Would the public support his right to expose himself to young boys solely because he is in the same locker room as them?

    *If* the reason for the public display or "claiming" to be transgendered is to get sexually aroused by it, then the person is clearly in the wrong and possibly committing a crime.
    I agree. Transgendered does NOT equal pervert, and I hope that I didnt imply that. My point was that it is impossible to tell if someone is actually transgendered, or if they are simply claiming to be to get into the woman's change room. I certainly dont think that this man pretended to be transgendered and dressed like a woman for 3 years just to get into the woman's change room at the pool. The problem for me is that this sets a president that it is OK for a male to let it all hang out in a woman's change room where there are potentially naked children. That makes me uncomfortable.

    My understanding is that this person was not necessarily exposing himself to the woman in the room, as much as walking around naked, which however distasteful, is acceptable in a change room. There was no indication that he was aroused, and you would think they would be able to tell I think that any man hanging around in any change room watching children change and getting aroused should be asked to leave.
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    Easy fix: Require swimsuits or towels in the sauna.

    If she was legally a woman, then she was doing nothing wrong by being in the women's locker room no matter what appendages were hanging from various parts of her body. Most states don't require bottom surgery to legally change your sex. A certain number of years on hormones along with top surgery is usually sufficient. After three years of female hormones, I'll bet her penis wasn't much to look at, probably not much more than some of those girls' little brothers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post

    How about " "College Allows Transgender Man to Use Women's Locker Room Despite Possible Presence of Children"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Transgendered does not equal pervert. These are two very different things and the mere fact that a person is in the women's locker room does not mean they aren't a pervert.
    I am not saying that either. My oldest is 7, just one year older than 6. As far as I know she has never seen a penis. This would not be how I would choose her to see one. (That said, it is not as accepted in this area and is much less likely to happen)
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    If she was legally a woman, then she was doing nothing wrong by being in the women's locker room no matter what appendages were hanging from various parts of her body. Most states don't require bottom surgery to legally change your sex. A certain number of years on hormones along with top surgery is usually sufficient. After three years of female hormones, I'll bet her penis wasn't much to look at, probably not much more than some of those girls' little brothers.
    I think I missed it. Was the person legally a woman, or still a man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
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    I am not saying that either. My oldest is 7, just one year older than 6. As far as I know she has never seen a penis. This would not be how I would choose her to see one. (That said, it is not as accepted in this area and is much less likely to happen)

    I think I missed it. Was the person legally a woman, or still a man?
    Holy Moley! Your 7 year old has never seen a penis???? That just seems so weird to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Holy Moley! Your 7 year old has never seen a penis???? That just seems so weird to me.
    Who's was she supposed to see? She has no brothers.

    ETA - I remember when my 3 nieces had no brothers and were a similar age as my girls. They had never seen one before either. Then the oldest happened into the bathroom when my nephew was there having a bath. She sure was in for a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I think I missed it. Was the person legally a woman, or still a man?
    I honestly don't know. The articles say that she's been living as a woman for three years. Personally, if someone identifies to me as a woman or man, I don't question it no matter what I think I see. But as far as locker rooms, where people are changing clothes, I think you should be far enough into the process to have changed the letter on your license, kwim?

    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Holy Moley! Your 7 year old has never seen a penis???? That just seems so weird to me.
    Me too! I thought all kids had seen their parents naked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I honestly don't know. The articles say that she's been living as a woman for three years. Personally, if someone identifies to me as a woman or man, I don't question it no matter what I think I see. But as far as locker rooms, where people are changing clothes, I think you should be far enough into the process to have changed the letter on your license, kwim?


    Me too! I thought all kids had seen their parents naked.
    I honestly don't know that T has ever seen DH naked. DH is extremely modest about that. He wouldn't even let T watch him pee, which I wanted for potty training purposes. Of course, T has seen his own penis and spent quite a bit of time thinking and talking about it () but if he were a girl....
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    Growing up I only saw my mom naked not my dad (he is not comfortable with that). First penis I saw was when my brother was born and I was 6.

    My girls have seen my nephew's penis but not dh's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Who's was she supposed to see? She has no brothers.

    ETA - I remember when my 3 nieces had no brothers and were a similar age as my girls. They had never seen one before either. Then the oldest happened into the bathroom when my nephew was there having a bath. She sure was in for a surprise.
    I thought about it after I posted, and it makes more sense withjust girls. DD has seen DH naked, but he is getting more modest as she gets older. I didnt mean to sound insulting. It just struck me as odd in the moment.
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