Trees with nuts....in schoolyards

11 posts / 0 new
Last post
ClairesMommy's picture
Joined: 08/15/06
Posts: 2299
Trees with nuts....in schoolyards

This story made national news last night (we don't have anything like secession going on right now):

TORONTO ? A Vaughan woman is the centre of controversy Tuesday for proposing that trees near a local school be moved by the city to allay fears of children with nut allergies.

Donna Giustizia, whose son is allergic to nuts, says the trees near St. Stephen Catholic Elementary School in Vaughan are covering the ground with acorns.

Those acorns, Giustizia says, could pose a serious danger to those people who have nut allergies.

Giustizia recently appeared before Vaughan city council to ask if it might consider moving the trees.

"Acorns are tree nuts, is there an issue about possible severe allergic reaction to them?" Vaughan city councillor Tony Carella said.

Allergists generally agree that there is no evidence to suggest acorns can directly cause anaphylactic shock.

?The important thing to remember with acorn and anaphylaxis is, there has never been a death reported anywhere in the world, as long as we?ve had scientific reports,? allergist Mark Greenwald said.

Giustizia is aware of that evidence, but says the point is not to prevent allergic reactions but to calm the fears of at-risk children.

"It's not about whether the child will have an anaphylactic reaction or not, but what about that child's dignity? Will that child live in fear?" Giustizia said. "That child believes that the school is nut-free and then there are kids playing with nuts and throwing them around."

The oak tree problem has left Vaughan city council divided with some councillors worried about the precedent that moving the trees would set if parents who have children with other allergies have similar concerns.

"This is not the only allergy, and does this mean that the next person that comes along is gonna ask us to remove something else?? Councillor Sandra Yeung-Racco said. ?Or how about people that are allergic to bees? Are we gonna exterminate all the bees?"

Yeung-Racco suggested that maybe the issue can be solved through parenting rather than legislating.

"If my child was allergic to something I would teach them that you don't go close to it, you don't touch it."

Carella, the councillor for the ward in which the school resides, is staying neutral on the issue until a feasability report is finished.

"We've got to weigh all of those factors and come up with a decision, so I haven't made up my mind yet on the subject, but I'm open to what staff has to tell us,? Carella said.

The feasability report will be presented at the next city council meeting. A decision is expected by the end of the year.

Read it on Global News: Global Toronto | Move trees from school to protect children with nut allergies: Vaughan mother

Pardon the pun, but do you find this idea nuts or perfectly in line with current nut-free trends in schools?

CamelNoodle's picture
Joined: 07/28/04
Posts: 908

Nuts because of this line

The important thing to remember with acorn and anaphylaxis is, there has never been a death reported anywhere in the world, as long as we've had scientific reports, allergist Mark Greenwald said.

Joined: 08/17/04
Posts: 2226

Yep...she needs to find a hobby.

GloriaInTX's picture
Joined: 07/29/08
Posts: 4111

Nuts

ClairesMommy's picture
Joined: 08/15/06
Posts: 2299

I have like zero problem keeping nuts/peanuts out of my kid's lunch (well, it's just a snack, not lunch) but this is nutso and goes way too far. If you're too stupid to tell your kid, "Now Jimmy, don't touch the acorns and don't try to eat them" you have bigger issues to tackle than oak trees in school yards.

Alissa_Sal's picture
Joined: 06/29/06
Posts: 6427

Ridiculous.

Giustizia is aware of that evidence, but says the point is not to prevent allergic reactions but to calm the fears of at-risk children.

"It's not about whether the child will have an anaphylactic reaction or not, but what about that child's dignity? Will that child live in fear?" Giustizia said. "That child believes that the school is nut-free and then there are kids playing with nuts and throwing them around."

Um, yeah, no. If there is zero evidence that anyone has an issue with acorns, and literally not one person has ever been found to die from contact with acorns, then there is no reason for kids to "live in fear." (How dramatic!)

If you have a kid with a tree nut allergy, the thing to do would be to tell them that it's probably fine, but don't touch/eat the acorns. How hard is that? And for that matter, how hard it is to eat an acorn for any kid? I won't be letting my kid eat acorns that he finds on the ground, and he's not even allergic to nuts. Also, could a kid even eat an acorn if they wanted to? I would think you would need to have a nut cracker, and then are they even edible?

Nuts.

ClairesMommy's picture
Joined: 08/15/06
Posts: 2299

"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Ridiculous.

Um, yeah, no. If there is zero evidence that anyone has an issue with acorns, and literally not one person has ever been found to die from contact with acorns, then there is no reason for kids to "live in fear." (How dramatic!)

If you have a kid with a tree nut allergy, the thing to do would be to tell them that it's probably fine, but don't touch/eat the acorns. How hard is that? And for that matter, how hard it is to eat an acorn for any kid? I won't be letting my kid eat acorns that he finds on the ground, and he's not even allergic to nuts. Also, could a kid even eat an acorn if they wanted to? I would think you would need to have a nut cracker, and then are they even edible?

Nuts.

Hey, if a 2-pound squirrel can do it....

Joined: 08/17/04
Posts: 2226

I always thought acorns were not poisonous but can give extreme stomach upset or something like that anyway

Joined: 08/17/04
Posts: 2226
Alissa_Sal's picture
Joined: 06/29/06
Posts: 6427

I had no idea! Now I'm almost tempted to try some acorns, just to see...LOL

tink9702's picture
Joined: 09/28/08
Posts: 2977

*lurker*

My son has a peanut and tree nut allergy, and it's a serious one. I think this is CRAZY. By school age any child with an allergy needs to be taught what is dangerous and how to stay away from it and keep themselves safe. They should also carry an epi pen in case something is missed. Ridiculous!