So where will this income come from if everyone decides to stay home? Why wouldn't everyone stay home if they had the choice?
I think a few people need to watch this:
A lesson in Socialism - YouTube
One think to think about... the reason people can only buy FOOD with food stamps is to keep people from spending it all on things they shouldn't so the kids will get fed. So what happens when these people spend their money on drugs or alcohol and the kids are going hungry? Sorry we already gave you your money?
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Why does the article call it "Star Trek economics"? There's nothing about that on Star Trek.
Anyway I don't get it at all. Why would we pay everybody for nothing when they are ready willing & able to work? I'm a socialist in many ways, I think we need to fix the welfare system but I think we need it. Disability, we need. But I'm also a capitalist and I think there's something great about working for a living. And how does it make sense to hand over money to rich people who don't need it?
Nothing about this idea makes sense to me.
I'm with Laurie, I don't really get it.
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But whatever, I'm a nerd, so it rankles me. It's not really relevant!
It's not human nature to do nothing It often comes up in debates regarding parents who stay at home with their children and those who work outside the home. Not everyone works for a paycheck.
Honestly, it is such a foriegn concept to me that if given the choice most people would choose not to work.
It would be like if I told my girls to clean their room. Alyssa hurried up and cleaned her room and did a great job. Brianna who doesn't like to clean her room putters around and doesn't clean her room. When Alyssa is done cleaning her room I tell her that she now has to go clean Brianna's room too. It is punishing those that work hard and rewarding those that do not.
What if I had been able to take time off to care for him? I was useless when he was sick. I had so much on my plate it was crazy! I was told by my docs to take time off...and I couldn't. No income. There are many reasons to not work that are very valid. This is but one. There will always be people who take advantage and are lazy. We currently pay them to breath as they are prime candidates for the welfare system already.
I think there are different things going on here.
My dad is on disability and I am grateful he has it. He did have to get rid of every investment he had other than a place of residence before he could qualify. He gets less than that amount and money is pretty tight but he didn't have enough saved for retirement by the time he had to stop working due to his MS. If something happened to my husband we would have to rethink our lives because even with the amount of disability he would get from his work, we could not maintain our current life on my salary. I think people hit with some kind of disease should get something, maybe comparable to the Canadian mat leave benefits where you get a percentage of your previous salary for a year. By that point, you will either be through the disease and back to work or you have time to adjust your life permanently.
My step brother (self made wealthy) has essentially given that amount to each of his brothers, wives and as their children become adults for years. He bought their houses. He will pay for any education and living expenses. Instead of telling their kids "you can do anything. if you have a dream, your uncle will do anything he can (money/connections) to help you make it happen" the kids got told "you don't need to do anything because your uncle will take care of you" My step brother has bailed them out of bankruptcy by paying off all debts twice and there is currently a fight over a third time because he will only do it if they go to financial counseling. I fail to understand how they can have that much debt when they get so much money and their house is paid for.
I don't like able bodied/minded people receiving guarenteed money for doing nothing.
As an aside, I do work in cancer research I really like it but I wouldn't go to work if they didn't pay me. If everyone was given that amount, I would have to make considerably more that that to keep going to work instead of staying home with the girls. Daycare already has trouble getting qualified people and they would pay somewhere around that. You might get more artists but why would you work at a fast food place?
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