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    Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism - Underground Health

    So do vaccines cause autism? Has there been a cover up?

    Disclaimer - I am pro vaccines. DH is anti vaccines. When our oldest was a baby I thought this topic was going to break us. Now that my girls are older and past having to decide on this, I am more calm on the issue. I have seen this article on FB a few different times now, and wondered how it would play out on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism - Underground Health

    So do vaccines cause autism? Has there been a cover up?

    Disclaimer - I am pro vaccines. DH is anti vaccines. When our oldest was a baby I thought this topic was going to break us. Now that my girls are older and past having to decide on this, I am more calm on the issue. I have seen this article on FB a few different times now, and wondered how it would play out on here.

    This article has already lost credit with me because the first case mentioned, Ryan Mojabi, was awarded money in court for vaccine-induced encephalopathy, not for autism, which he also happens to have and his parents believe was caused by the vaccines, but that is NOT what the court conceded.

    Anyway, dishonest reporting first example in...i didn't bother to read the rest.

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    What Kim said. I also don't know that "the courts" can really determine that vaccines cause autism. That's more of a scientific question than a legal question. Also, that site is so biased that its hard to take seriously.
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    Not the greatest source, but here's what Wikipedia has to say about that doctor:

    Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born 1957) is a British former surgeon and medical researcher, known for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of the now-discredited claim that there is a link between the administration of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, and the appearance of autism and bowel disease.[1][2][3]


    Four years after the publication of the paper, other researchers' results had still failed to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of a relation between childhood gastrointestinal disorders and autism.[4] A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield's part,[5] and most of his co-authors then withdrew their support for the study's interpretations.[6] The British General Medical Council (GMC) conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues.[7] The investigation centred on Deer's numerous findings, including one that autistic children were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures,[8] such as colonoscopy and lumbar puncture, and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.

    On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children.[9] The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research.[10][11][12] The Lancet immediately and fully retracted his 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC?s findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified.[13] Wakefield was struck off the Medical Register in May 2010, with a statement identifying dishonest falsification in The Lancet research,[14] and is barred from practicing medicine in the UK.[15]



    In January 2011, an editorial accompanying an article by Brian Deer in BMJ identified Wakefield's work as an "elaborate fraud".[1][16][17] In a follow-up article,[18] Deer said that Wakefield had planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and "litigation driven testing".[19] In November 2011, yet another report in BMJ[20] revealed original raw data indicating that, contrary to Wakefield's claims in The Lancet, children in his research did not have inflammatory bowel disease.[21][22]



    Wakefield's study and public recommendations against the use of the combined MMR vaccine were linked to a steep decline in vaccination rates in the United Kingdom and a corresponding rise in measles cases, resulting in serious illness and fatalities.[23][24][25] Wakefield has continued to defend his research and conclusions, saying there was no fraud, hoax or profit motive.[26][27]
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    As a mom with a kid on the spectrum I do not feel that vaccines are causing autism. I knew she was doing things differently well before a lot of her vaccines and definitely before she had the MMR. In talking with our parents in the "autism" circle they also feel it has nothing to do with vaccines.

    I also think anything presented by Wakefield is a bunch of junk.
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    No there has been no cover up.

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    It kind of infuriates me that the whole "vaccines cause autism!" thing just refuses to die, no matter how little evidence there is for it, and even in the wake of the total discrediting of Wakefield's study. Kids are actually dying of diseases that we almost wiped out generations ago, and we are compromising our herd immunity over misinformation and outright lies. It makes me crazy-eyes-mad.
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