VP Debate

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Originally Posted by Rivergallery

neither Romney nor Obama laughed at each other mockingly. Both Obama and Romney interrupted each other I would say equally. And Obama was just as "rude" to Leher as Romney, I saw them as equal there.

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I said Romney was rude the the moderator. And he really was...way more rude than Obama was. Leher would tell him he needed to stop and he would just plow over him completely ignoring anything Jim said. He was way worse than Obama was at this.

Its like i said earlier in this debate, i guess its just acceptable to be rude to the moderator, not your opponent. Or maybe its acceptable to be rude if you are a republican, but not democrat.

Or maybe what it is, is really how rude you are is not a main issue and only worthy of bringing up if its the person you've already planned on not voting for.

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Originally Posted by KimPossible

Okay, again my point was missed. Put in the word 'behavior' for 'mannerisms and personality' and its the same thing, you dont' like my choice of words, put whatever word you want int here.

And my other point was Romney's behavior was just as rude it he presidential debate, not to Obama, but to Leher, and very little was said by any Rep. about that. This is just something for Reps to focus on.

Either you think rude behavior is acceptable or its not. When it doesn't effect your view of Romney, but does of Biden, its not very convincing.

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I watched both debates. There was no comparison to how Biden acted. Quite honest, I was very shocked that after the last debate that people posted about how rude Romney was and how that left a bad taste in their mouth, but at the same time think how Biden acted is completely fine.

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Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers

I watched both debates. There was no comparison to how Biden acted. Quite honest, I was very shocked that after the last debate that people posted about how rude Romney was and how that left a bad taste in their mouth, but at the same time think how Biden acted is completely fine.

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I watched both debates too, and i totally disagree with you. Romney was definitely very rude to Lehrer. Perhaps you are shocked, but like you said people were talking about it and i definitely agree with it.

I'm not entirely interested in 'who was more rude'...they both were, i think they could have been both labeled as *very* rude regardless of which one takes first place. And i think its totally hypocritical to act like its a huge deal for one and not the other or say its not okay to laugh or interrupt your opponent with more frequency than he interrupts you, buts it not a huge deal to pretty much talk over and ignore your moderator every single time he tries to stop you.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion, i find the fact that you found Biden to be extremely rude and shocked that Romney was even mentioned as rude very interesting.

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While everyone is entitled to their opinion, i find the fact that you found Biden to be extremely rude and shocked that Romney was even mentioned as rude very interesting.[/QUOTE]

I am sorry, I must have worded wrong what I meant. What I meant to say was that I was shocked that the people who felt Romney was rude did not think Biden was. I had been thinking that after the responses to Romney, that people would have been equally or more upset with Biden. Instead, people who were appalled with Romney, thought Biden's behaviour was fine.

It is not a major big deal. I was just surprised. As I was watching the debate I was interested in how it would play out on the debate board. I just was not expecting the responses that have been given.

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Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers

I am sorry, I must have worded wrong what I meant. What I meant to say was that I was shocked that the people who felt Romney was rude did not think Biden was.

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I wonder how many people fall into that category really. I didn't really keep tally about who mentioned Romney's behavior and then a week or so later didn't say anything about Biden. I know i remarked about both of their behaviors, personally.

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I had been thinking that after the responses to Romney, that people would have been equally or more upset with Biden. Instead, people who were appalled with Romney, thought Biden's behaviour was fine.

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I can't speak for anyone else, but i wasn't that upset with Romney. I mentioned it as obnoxious but actually said that overall Romney didn't come off as obnoxious as he usually does...and i think he clearly did better overall. And then this time around, i acknowledged Biden's behavior as probably off-putting to deciding voters, but said that i think overall he went out there and did what he had to do.

Both times i feel like it was a side story....the content was much more important.

I personally felt like it was the opposite..that i see a lot of conservatives uproaring about Biden's behavior and making it a *main* talking point that really didn't say much about Romney.

It must be just a matter of the different perspectives we have.

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It is not a major big deal.

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I feel like some people are presenting it as such....in this thread even.

Arg. I had a whole response typed out and then lost internet connection and lost the whole thing.

I can only speak for myself, but to me, all four candidates and both moderators interrupted each other. Some more so than others, but only Biden laughed and mocked his opponent. It was more than just his demeanour though. At one point he said (I do not remember the exact quote) something like "If you would just move out of the way". I think there are roughly 30% Republican's in the US. It was like he was saying "You all need to just get out of the way. You do not matter." I am not sure I can explain exactly what I am trying to say but saying that, in combination with his manner just made me feel like as Vice President of the US, he feels like he is only there to serve the Democrats. I am not saying he is the first man in history to do that, I am sure there are many others on both sides that have.

It was just my impression of the debate. You are right that in the grand scheme of things it does not matter and I doubt it will sway the election that much.

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Originally Posted by Rivergallery

Biden had at least two lies, I would have to factcheck online for the rest - #1 was when he emphatically said to the camera that anyone denied benefits on Medicare to tell him.. implying there wasn't any.. TONS of people I know on medicare have been denied. #2 saying Catholic based hospitals don't have to pay for abortions via their healthcare plans.
Also his thoughts on Iran obtaining an nuclear weapon..saying they have "nothing to put it in" sounded like a Kindergarten argument.. One can easily HIDE a container.. seriously.. there was a Russian military plane dug up over there about 9 years ago, out of the sand!

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I guess the Catholic bishops agree with you on #2 they are speaking out about it.

Catholic bishops: Biden

Well Obama pissed off the old people (AARP)
and Biden pissed off his own church ;)