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    Oh, the signature wasn't cut off??? It was cut off in the pic I saw. OK, yes, that's wrong and an invasion of privacy but if the signature had been cut off or blurred, then I would say there's no reason to fire her. Even so, I think Applebee's didn't *have* to fire her, if she was their best server & always willing to pick up a shift & they'd be lost without her, they could have said, "Don't let it ever happen again," and it would be fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    The Pastor did not fire her, her boss did. Say you had a hair in your food and you called to complain. The person who was responsible was fired, is it your fault that person was fired?
    She called and demanded she be fired.

    Some time on Wednesday, Chelsea says the customer who had left the receipt contacted her Applebee?s location, demanding that everyone be fired, from the servers involved to the managers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Wait. So there's a religious argument that isn't supported by Fox news?

    Just because she crossed out the automatic gratuity and wrote $0 doesn't mean she didn't tip. Or the other people in her party didn't tip.

    But yes, she deserves to be fired for posting a picture of the receipt with the person's signature on the receipt. I would expect the same if I was the one whose signature was suddenly all over the Internet.

    As for automatice gratuities-I hate, hate, hate the idea that this is acceptable practice.
    The server who waited on the party (which is not the girl who was fired, it was someone else who hasn't been identified) has said that she didn't get a tip. That's why she showed the receipt to others in the first place.

    ITA with you about automatic gratuities but mostly because it seems to give servers carte blanche to not do their job and still get a tip. As a former server, there's no way I'd take a party of eight without that guarantee, it's far easier to serve four two-tops that you'll probably get a lot more money from all together. As a diner, if the service doesn't warrant an 18% tip, then I get the manager involved ASAP so that we will get proper service, or that the 18% will not be added on and I can tip what I feel is appropriate for the service we got.
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    If the pastor didn't want to comply with the included gratuity for a table of her size she should not have eaten there.

    I'm sad for the waitress that she didn't think to not remove the signature.

    The "pastor" should be ashamed, if you can't afford to eat somewhere don't go there.

    I wish applebees had not fired the server, though I understand why they did.

    I think automatic included gratuities would be a good spin off
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Well yes, that is over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Oh, the signature wasn't cut off??? It was cut off in the pic I saw. OK, yes, that's wrong and an invasion of privacy but if the signature had been cut off or blurred, then I would say there's no reason to fire her. Even so, I think Applebee's didn't *have* to fire her, if she was their best server & always willing to pick up a shift & they'd be lost without her, they could have said, "Don't let it ever happen again," and it would be fine with me.
    It was originally posted, but as soon as she realized that people could read it they cut off the signature.

    As posted originally on Reddit’s Atheist page, the image contained the customer’s full signature. Chelsea says she didn’t think to edit that out because she had assumed the name was illegible.

    But the Internet is a remarkably curious place, so sleuths began trying to identify the self-described “pastor” on the receipt.

    “All throughout the comment thread on the Reddit post, I withheld any identifying information,” Chelsea explains, adding that she provided an inaccurate physical description of the customer just to throw people off.

    She eventually replaced the image with a version that did not contain the signature, but by that point, people were posting their guesses as to the customer’s identity.

    “I had already started receiving messages containing Facebook profile links and blogs and websites, asking me to confirm the identity of the customer,” she says. “I refused to confirm any of them, and all of them were incorrect. I worked with the website moderators to remove any personal information. I wanted to protect the identity of both my fellow server and the customer. I had no intention of starting a witch hunt or hurting anyone — I just wanted to share a picture I found interesting.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    The "pastor" should be ashamed, if you can't afford to eat somewhere don't go there.
    I have a feeling this had nothing to do with whether she could afford the tip or not. I think she just didn't *want* to pay the tip.
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    what does "I give God 10%" even mean? If I were God, I'd be asking for a little more than 10% from a pastor. What a stupid thing to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    what does "I give God 10%" even mean? If I were God, I'd be asking for a little more than 10% from a pastor. What a stupid thing to say.
    It goes back the the Jewish practice of "tithing", by law in the old testament the amount they were supposed to give was 10%. So some people think that that is the "accepted" amount of what your contributions should be.

    Tithing is an Old Testament concept. The tithe was a requirement of the law in which all Israelites were to give 10 percent of everything they earned and grew to the Tabernacle/Temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5). In fact, the Old Testament Law required multiple tithes which would have pushed the total to around 23.3 percent, not the 10 percent which is generally considered the tithe amount today. Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites in the sacrificial system. The New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. Paul states that believers should set aside a portion of their income in order to support the church (1 Corinthians 16:1-2).
    What does the Bible say about Christian tithing? Should a Christian tithe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    what does "I give God 10%" even mean? If I were God, I'd be asking for a little more than 10% from a pastor. What a stupid thing to say.
    As Gloria said, it refers to the tithe. Many Christians give 10% of their income to the church. I have also heard that a waitress should not be given a bigger percentage than God or the church. I feel though that it is a poor testimony to not tip well. In my opinion you should either tip well or not tell someone you are from the church because it will reflect poorly on the church. If you want someone to come visit your church, the best way to do that is to show yourself to be friendly and generous.
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