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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

    You weren't supporting yourself by working part time earning minimum wage. You were borrowing the money to support yourself.

    Just out of curiousity, were these federally subsidized (or unsubsidized) student loans?
    I didn't borrow money to support myself. I borrowed money to pay for my school not to live on. Except for my first semester because the college I went to didn't allow you to live off campus for the first semester. My loans weren't subsidized they were Guaranteed Student Loans so I got them from a bank but the government guaranteed the loan. It took me over 10 years to pay back my loans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I didn't borrow money to support myself. I borrowed money to pay for my school not to live on. Except for my first semester because the college I went to didn't allow you to live off campus for the first semester. My loans weren't subsidized they were Guaranteed Student Loans so I got them from a bank but the government guaranteed the loan. It took me over 10 years to pay back my loans.
    You can paint it any color you want, but you supported yourself on borrowed money for at least a semester and you took a government handout in the form of a guaranteed loan. While you were in school, who do you think paid the interest on that loan? We taxpayers paid it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Who am I supposed to feel sorry for a family like the one in this article? Four adults in the home and neither of her daughters can work because one is pregnant and the other just had a baby? Doesn't really say why the other adult can't work. I can understand that she is sick and unable to work, but I know a LOT of women that manage to work while pregnant and after they have babies, including myself. And she has to go to the food bank because $800 a month isn't enough money to buy groceries for 4 people?

    Our family will lose $44 in food stamps - Nov. 1, 2013
    The woman in the article can't work due to disability. If she is fighting foreclosure on her home, she has not always been in this situation. I don't think we know someone's situation based on where they are in the here and now.

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    It's interesting that you worked as a foodstamp case worker. One would think you would have more empathy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommytoMR.FACE View Post
    It's interesting that you worked as a foodstamp case worker. One would think you would have more empathy....
    I do have a lot of empathy for those who need them. I think it is a great program for those who need them and I have no problem with people receiving food stamps that are down on their luck and need temporary assistance. The food stamp program is designed to be temporary. I also saw the people who abused the system. And there were a lot of those who did and felt the government OWED them support. The problem is that the number of people like that is growing because people feel more entitled the more assistance they get. Especially now that almost half of the U.S. population pays no income tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    You can paint it any color you want, but you supported yourself on borrowed money for at least a semester and you took a government handout in the form of a guaranteed loan. While you were in school, who do you think paid the interest on that loan? We taxpayers paid it.
    Even that semester I didn't completely support myself on borrowed money because they only allow a certain amount per semester and it wasn't enough to cover everything. The school allowed me to make payments that semester for the amount that was over. And I have never once said that I have a problem with student loans. That has nothing to do with being able to support myself working part time because the money I received for student loans went to cover my school. It would have cost the same amount to support myself whether I was going to school or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Even that semester I didn't completely support myself on borrowed money because they only allow a certain amount per semester and it wasn't enough to cover everything. The school allowed me to make payments that semester for the amount that was over. And I have never once said that I have a problem with student loans. That has nothing to do with being able to support myself working part time because the money I received for student loans went to cover my school. It would have cost the same amount to support myself whether I was going to school or not.
    Sure it has to do with supporting yourself....you wouldn't have been able to eat and live AND go to school without it it sounds like.

    To not have a problem with a govt guaranteed loan, but problems with other type of support seems really arbitrary. I mean especially since you could argue that the ability to buy food or shelter is a way more essential need than a higher education (not that a higher education isn't important). So you are justifying borrowing money for something that is even less necessary than putting food in your stomach. Seems backwards to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Sure it has to do with supporting yourself....you wouldn't have been able to eat and live AND go to school without it it sounds like.

    To not have a problem with a govt guaranteed loan, but problems with other type of support seems really arbitrary. I mean especially since you could argue that the ability to buy food or shelter is a way more essential need than a higher education (not that a higher education isn't important). So you are justifying borrowing money for something that is even less necessary than putting food in your stomach. Seems backwards to me.
    Well the original equation didn't include going to school, it was being able to work part time at Walmart and support yourself. Whether I went to school or not, I was able to work part time and support myself. If I wasn't going to school it actually would have been easier to support myself because I wouldn't have had to schedule my work hours around school.

    I don't have a problem with people getting food stamps that actually need them. And I don't see how that is arbitrary. I received student loans and paid them back with interest. I am now a productive member of society paying the taxes that support the people that need help putting food in their stomach. How is that not a win win?
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    Lots of people who receive government help pay taxes and are productive members of society as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommytoMR.FACE View Post
    Lots of people who receive government help pay taxes and are productive members of society as well.
    I think there is a difference between receiving help while you are down on your luck, in between jobs, a college student working to better yourself, and having it as career plan for your whole life.

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