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    Even if it was 3/4th of the employees, it would not be sustainable unless they raised their prices which would also take away from what they made unless all of their competitors did the same.

    Singling one company out and expecting them to pay double what other stores have to pay will only make that store go under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Even if it was 3/4th of the employees, it would not be sustainable unless they raised their prices which would also take away from what they made unless all of their competitors did the same.
    I dont know why you are saying that because 1,500,000 multiplied by 8.36 (or whatever that number was you gave) is under their profit amount.

    I'm not saying its as cut and dry as this. But you can't just shake your head and be like "oh they couldn't possibly do that...or couldnt possibly do something"

    And I'm pretty sure Walmart is beating its competitors, as in they have an upper hand, so I'd say personally i'd turn to them first to make the right ethical moves.

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    Here's the breakdown:
    1. Walmart has 1.4 million employees in the U.S. (This comes from Walmart itself.)
    2. Assume that 25% of them are underpaid. (That's taking off half who are in larger cities where they do pay well, and another half in management & other places who are paid well. Totally arbitrary, but as I said before, it's still probably over-stated.)
    3. 25% of 1.4 million is 350,000.
    4. $8/hour is $16,640 (=8*40*52)
    5. $25,000 less $16,640 equals $8,360.
    6. Multiply $8,360 times 350,000 and you get $2.926 billion, which I rounded up to $3B.

    Putting $3 billion into the good of their employees and into the good of our entire country is not going to cost them their business. If you don't think Walmart can survive on $14 BILLION NET PROFIT, then I don't know what else to say. Even if HALF of their employees are underpaid, they'd still have over $10 BILLION. And 700,000 more Americans would be able to buy their own Thanksgiving dinners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I'm not saying its as cut and dry as this. But you can't just shake your head and be like "oh they couldn't possibly do that...or couldnt possibly do something"
    I am not saying they couldn't do something. They surely could raise their wages some. I am saying they could not raise their wages to the amount quoted in the article and still stay afloat. They might last awhile, but it is not a long term solution. I am also saying that Walmart should not be singled out just because they are successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I am not saying they couldn't do something. They surely could raise their wages some. I am saying they could not raise their wages to the amount quoted in the article and still stay afloat. They might last awhile, but it is not a long term solution. I am also saying that Walmart should not be singled out just because they are successful.
    Oh i single them out for a lot more than just 'being successful'

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    But not everyone employed by Walmart is earning less than $25,000. As Gloria loves to point out, they do pay living wages in some places because her son is being paid pretty well by their local Walmart. And they reportedly pay management pretty well. It's the people doing the grunt work, and especially in the lower SES areas, that are being jipped. They absolutely could raise their wages and stay afloat. What astounds me is that people know all this about Walmart and still choose to shop there, knowing that many of their employees can't afford to put food on the table but the corporation is taking $14 BILLION in net profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    And 700,000 more Americans would be able to buy their own Thanksgiving dinners.
    If I understood the article correctly the collection was for special circumstances like a house fire. Not everyday employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    If I understood the article correctly the collection was for special circumstances like a house fire. Not everyday employees.
    Could you feed your family on $16,640 a year? Even if you said yes, couldn't you feed them a bit better, like maybe a special holiday dinner, on $25,000?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Could you feed your family on $16,640 a year? Even if you said yes, couldn't you feed them a bit better, like maybe a special holiday dinner, on $25,000?
    It is not Walmart's job to make sure everyone that works at WM can support a family. There are many people that work there that are college students, people wanting to make a little bit for Christmas shopping and so forth. If you are a family person it is your own responsibility to work hard and either find a better job or move up the latter of WM to make better pay.

    For anyone iterested in the actual statistic, I found one. More Than Half of Wal-Mart's Hourly Workers Make Less Than $25,000 - Businessweek
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    1. I think it is nice people are helping each other out

    2. I don't think ALL jobs need to be a living wage, not all jobs are meant to be a lifetime job

    3. I hate walmart, just because I think the stores are yucky and shopping there can be an interesting experience at times

    I worked for a company for many years that paid badly. I was a lucky one and I was making 50% of the average pay for my position in my industry. (I even saw some of the higher ups buy christmas presents for their employees kids because they knew they weren't affording it) But here's the thing, I chose to work there. I chose to take the job and get experience from it. and when I was ready to move on, the market crashed. So I stayed 2 more years and was job hunting the whole time. Now I am at a company I love, with great benefits and great pay. Sometimes you just have to 'pay your dues'.
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