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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I am stepping away from this. I know what I mean, but I do not know how to say it in a non insulting way. You shop where you want to, and I will shop where I want to, and we will all be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Actually, no serving is not considered a "commision-based" position. If at any point there is a shortfall, the employer has to pick up the difference. IOW, servers have to paid minimum wage whether it comes from their employer or their customers. For example, let's say it's a slow night. One server worked for 2 hours but only made $6 in tips. $4 + $6 = $10. $10/2 hours = $5. The employer would have to pay the difference (somewhere around $4 in my example.) Not saying it usually happens just what is supposed to happen if it does.

    It's irrelevant in CA; servers have to be paid at least minimum wage; tips are on top of that.

    There's no shame in working at Walmart.
    I don't think that is reality, the whole employer-making-up-the-slow-day thing. I used to be a waitress (decades ago, I confess) and know a lot of people who've done it, and have never heard of that happening.

    I agree there's no shame in working at Walmart, there is only shame in Walmart underpaying employees. They also have a long history of employee abuse, like bullying people into working overtime without overtime pay. I think when many of these practices were exposed they had to stop doing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    I don't think that is reality, the whole employer-making-up-the-slow-day thing. I used to be a waitress (decades ago, I confess) and know a lot of people who've done it, and have never heard of that happening.

    I agree there's no shame in working at Walmart, there is only shame in Walmart underpaying employees. They also have a long history of employee abuse, like bullying people into working overtime without overtime pay. I think when many of these practices were exposed they had to stop doing them.
    I don't think it's the reality either. In a 40 hour week, a server has to earn a min. of $290 including tips. If this isn't happening, a server could file a complaint with the DOL; I assume most of those effected don't. I'm glad it's a non-issue here.

    Employees rarely file complaints. That's why places like Walmart get away with employee abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I would rather help someone out short term while they are going to college to better themselves and have them have good paying jobs the whole rest of their lives and to have them work as a cashier for their entire live barley making it by.

    To clarify, I have no problem with someone being a cashier long term if that is their desire. If so they accept that it is not a great paying job.
    To be clear: You would rather pay Walmart employees the equivilant of $4/hour in the form of aid than cut into Walmart's $12 billion profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    To be clear: You would rather pay Walmart employees the equivilant of $4/hour in the form of aid than cut into Walmart's $12 billion profits.
    four dollars an hour * 1,500,000 employees (Bonita used the .75 of employees as her base for statistics earlier)

    = 6,000,000 per hour we pay to help offset Wal-Mart's low wages

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    To be clear: You would rather pay Walmart employees the equivilant of $4/hour in the form of aid than cut into Walmart's $12 billion profits.
    I would rather help someone out for 1-3 years while they are going to college or learning a trade and working a lower paying job then to require every business to pay double the minimum wage for their life.

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    Yep Walmart is the evil villain because they make a profit, yet companies like Google with 60 billion in revenue are using taxpayer dollars to fund exotic trips on private jets. Maybe everyone should stop using Google?

    Few Americans would care that a successful tech company with substantial travel demands and nearly $60 billion in revenue over the past year maintains a fleet of private jets that guzzle fuel by the millions of gallons. But Google uses campaign contributions to strong-arm federal lawmakers into hamstringing everyone else with restrictive environmental regulations, while Google execs cavalierly jet off to exotic vacation spots around the globe on the taxpayers’ dime.
    Google has snagged a few favors from Uncle Sam to lower the cost of maintaining its jet fleet along the way, too.

    Since 2007, the private airplane fleet owned by Google execs has been housed in a hangar at NASA’s Ames Research Center just outside Google’s Mountain View, Calif. headquarters. The taxpayer-funded hangars are intended for aircraft performing scientific research to assist NASA, but it appears that Google’s jets perform very little actual scientific research (unless calculating the circumference of Mai Tai umbrellas on the beaches of Babelthuap somehow qualifies).

    In addition to the publicly subsidized hangar space, Google received another money saving perk courtesy of U.S. taxpayers: Millions of dollars’ worth of jet fuel at below-market prices from NASA and the Department of Defense. Google officials spent an estimated $29 million on jet fuel at the facility, roughly $10 million less than what they would have paid on the open market.

    Perhaps that explains why Google execs have flown to the nation’s capital more than 100 times in the past 6 years?

    It should come as no surprise that the Google executives who benefited from government-owned hangar space and federally subsidized jet fuel also happen to be among the largest contributors to political campaigns in the United States. The company itself routinely ranks among the top-10 organizations for federal campaign contributions. Google’s PAC, along with its executives, employees, and those individuals’ immediate family members, contributes hundreds of thousands of dollars each election cycle. In 2008 alone, Google PAC gave $817,855 to President Obama’s campaign; in 2012, Google PAC nearly matched its previous total, giving $801,770.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Yep Walmart is the evil villain because they make a profit, yet companies like Google with 60 billion in revenue are using taxpayer dollars to fund exotic trips on private jets. Maybe everyone should stop using Google?





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    Where did anyone comment on what they felt about google? Did someone say Walmart is evil...unlike that angel of a company google.

    So weird.

    This would be like you commenting on how the healtchare website sucks...and as my counter argument to that I say "Hey well here's another ****ty website"

    ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Where did anyone comment on what they felt about google? Did someone say Walmart is evil...unlike that angel of a company google.

    So weird.

    This would be like you commenting on how the healtchare website sucks...and as my counter argument to that I say "Hey well here's another ****ty website"

    ??
    Just seems a little hypocritical that's all. Everyone is so down on Walmart all the time and self righteous about never stepping foot in Walmart and yet no one is complaining about companies that take taxpayer money or ship jobs to China. Makes sense lets worry that some employee at Walmart might receive food stamps while corporate jets are taking people to the Bahamas on government funded fuel while we shop on Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Where did anyone comment on what they felt about google? Did someone say Walmart is evil...unlike that angel of a company google.

    So weird.

    This would be like you commenting on how the healtchare website sucks...and as my counter argument to that I say "Hey well here's another ****ty website"

    ??
    It was stated on the website debate that websites that take a long time is an industry standard. Yes, there are a few great companies that go above and beyond for their employees but most companies are no different than Wal-Mart.
    Last edited by AlyssaEimers; 11-21-2013 at 10:02 PM. Reason: typo

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