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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    As an aside, I think it would be really neat to have a competition. Invite different companies to design a website and let the Government pick which one is best. The winner gets a Government contract to do websites in the future. You would get the best possible websites out of that situation with no cost other than the future contract.
    That sounds nice but its not very practical considering it takes a lot of work to do a good design and if you didn't get the contract you wouldn't get that expense back. Usually what happens is companies have a portfolio of other projects they have done to give an idea of what they can do. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like the government checked into the projects that CGI had previously worked on because they already had a history of poor performance.
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    I think there are many of companies that would do it just for the free publicity. It is not more than they would spend on a few Super Bowl commercials, but would be more advertisement than from a Super Bowl commercial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I think there are many of companies that would do it just for the free publicity. It is not more than they would spend on a few Super Bowl commercials, but would be more advertisement than from a Super Bowl commercial.
    How would they get publicity for putting work into a design that failed? Only the company who won the project would get publicity, everyone else would lose a ton of money for what they spent designing a website. These are not easy things to build, there are months and months of coding involved even to get a website built for a demonstration. It is not about just putting pretty pictures on a screen, it is much more involved than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    How would they get publicity for putting work into a design that failed? Only the company who won the project would get publicity, everyone else would lose a ton of money for what they spent designing a website. These are not easy things to build, there are months and months of coding involved even to get a website built for a demonstration. It is not about just putting pretty pictures on a screen, it is much more involved than that.
    I understand that websites are work. DH has designed several small websites. I still think it would be a worthy competition. I know companies did this before the super bowl last year. Had people submit commercials for the Super Bowl and the winning commercial was on TV. The loosing commercials did not gain anything.

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    This was a no bid contract awarded to the company that did the website. From what I have read this company was never prepared to design a website of this magnitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    As an aside, I think it would be really neat to have a competition. Invite different companies to design a website and let the Government pick which one is best. The winner gets a Government contract to do websites in the future. You would get the best possible websites out of that situation with no cost other than the future contract.
    agreeed. This should have been the situation from the start. Competitive bids with binding contracts based on expectations
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    My experience dealing with outside agencies that build sites is pretty similar to this one, I have to say. That's why I hated hiring them. We never got what we asked for, it was never ready on time, and it was long past the deadline before things were up & running properly. Totally the norm in my experience. They shouldn't have launched it before it was ready.

    There's no way to know whose fault it was without being part of the process. Did the client change the demands & requirements after it was built? Were there approval deadlines missed? Did the company building it have a thorough discovery process? Who knows?

    But this is often the norm in the site-building industry, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I understand that websites are work. DH has designed several small websites. I still think it would be a worthy competition. I know companies did this before the super bowl last year. Had people submit commercials for the Super Bowl and the winning commercial was on TV. The loosing commercials did not gain anything.
    This isn't a small project though. It is really more about what is going on with the database design and what happens on the back end than the look and feel of the actual website. Not only that, but they had to integrate with many other systems. It has very little to do with designing what you see on the screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    My experience dealing with outside agencies that build sites is pretty similar to this one, I have to say. That's why I hated hiring them. We never got what we asked for, it was never ready on time, and it was long past the deadline before things were up & running properly. Totally the norm in my experience. They shouldn't have launched it before it was ready.

    There's no way to know whose fault it was without being part of the process. Did the client change the demands & requirements after it was built? Were there approval deadlines missed? Did the company building it have a thorough discovery process? Who knows?

    But this is often the norm in the site-building industry, that's for sure.
    So what would happen (Really want to know) if Amazon or Google commissioned a company to design a website for them and on the day of the release it did not work? What would be the normal procedure in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    So what would happen (Really want to know) if Amazon or Google commissioned a company to design a website for them and on the day of the release it did not work? What would be the normal procedure in that situation.
    Those companies have their own teams building these things because they are essential to their core business. Because it's their core business they also know how to plan, when to test, how to test, etc.
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