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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Those companies have their own teams building these things because they are essential to their core business. Because it's their core business they also know how to plan, when to test, how to test, etc.
    In theory, wouldn't any company that would be doing a website as big as the healthcare.gov website know those same things?

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    We do not have to keep going with the whole competition thing. I just thought it was a nice idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    In theory, wouldn't any company that would be doing a website as big as the healthcare.gov website know those same things?
    I would think if a company contracted out work, the conditions of payment would be in the contract and if they were not met, they would not get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    In theory, wouldn't any company that would be doing a website as big as the healthcare.gov website know those same things?
    I can only give you the reality of how these things happen. I have used Amazon for many years and have never, ever had a problem with the way their site works. Why? Because if it doesn't work people stop using them.

    My personal (professional) experience with agencies that build sites is that the stakes simply are not the same. Their whole business doesn't fall apart if things don't launch perfectly on the day they are supposed to. And it's all about what kind of talent they attract. Google, for example, attracts the best and the brightest. People will go through a 6-month interview process to get hired there, people try for YEARS to get hired there. Agencies make their money selling their big ideas, the execution gets there but it's often delayed and imperfect and then gets ironed out along the way. . .they're also used to clients changing their minds 100 times along the way. (I imagine it's even worse when the government is your client.) When Amazon or Google builds something, they are their own client.

    In my experience, I have never, ever seen a website relaunch happen on the day it was scheduled for. Ever.


    Edited to add: at my last company, a site was supposed to launch on Sept. 12th. It still isn't live.
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    the website being a epic fail may work out well for the administration. It will take a lot longer for people to see that "affordable care" is actually "available care"
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    FYI - I am watching the trial on this live. Ms. Sebelius said the website has not been completely paid for, and they will not finish paying for the website until it is up and running completely.

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    .... and now it comes out. I knew there had to be a back alley deal somewhere for this company to have gotten the contract with the record they had.

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    Read this today:

    Amazon's TV over-the-top device will not be found in anyone's stocking this year. All Things D reports the company has pushed back the release date of its box until Spring 2014, because Amazon was not happy with the device's performance. Amazon originally hoped for a holiday launch to compete with Apple TV and Roku.

    So you can see, things often aren't ready no matter what the stakes. In this case this is a device and not a site, but Amazon knows that it has to be RIGHT out of the gate so they delayed. I'm sure this was a huge deal to the company as they wanted it out and for sale in time for the holidays.
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    Yep that's why government run ANYTHING is worthless. They have no competition and know that we have to accept whatever shoddy product or service they put out whether it works or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Yep that's why government run ANYTHING is worthless. They have no competition and know that we have to accept whatever shoddy product or service they put out whether it works or not.
    And that is not party-specific, that's for sure. I agree with you and I think it's ALL government. Doesn't matter which party.
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