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What do you think happened?

What do you think happened to the missing plane to China? Crash that has not been found yet? Terrorist takeover? Alien abduction?

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I don't think talking about how 239 people died is "fluff." :cry:

Considering that two people got on board with stolen passports, I'm going with terrorism. The odds, I think, of two well-intentioned people happening to need to travel with stolen passports *and* the plane coincidentally falling from the sky on a clear day, aren't very good.

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"Spacers" wrote:

I don't think talking about how 239 people died is "fluff." :cry:

Considering that two people got on board with stolen passports, I'm going with terrorism. The odds, I think, of two well-intentioned people happening to need to travel with stolen passports *and* the plane coincidentally falling from the sky on a clear day, aren't very good.

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My gut says terrorism...but it's crazy there hasn't been any trace of the plane (or any parts of it) yet.

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"mommydearest" wrote:

My gut says terrorism...but it's crazy there hasn't been any trace of the plane (or any parts of it) yet.

I agree.

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I hope they were hijacked and are in North Korea right now.

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It's definitely an interesting turn of events that the airplane seems to have been found on military radar signals over the Malacca Strait over an hour after it was first thought to have "disappeared" from civilian radar.

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I just don't understand with SO much technology and monitoring of the world, why can't governments look through satellite images and find people and things? It's so hard for me to believe that there could be any plane this day and age to go off radar and no one know or suspect. To me, it seems logical to have a surveillance program of incoming planes and for the outgoing to also watch their outgoing planes. Or have maybe live feeds of aircraft, which I personally believe to be a great idea. We would know asap if something was wrong and we'd have the true idea of what is going on from the ground before the terrorist would figure out anything or perhaps if there was an unsafe plane having difficulty.

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Here is another thing I don't understand. How can a plane just go off the grid and not know where it is. How is this still possible? If a plane comes into U.S. territory but falls of the grid somewhere far far before but keeps flying, does this mean the U.S. is not going to have any idea where that plane is or that there is a plane coming? And are all the rest of the countries like this too? This sound really scary to me. I just can't really understand how there is so limited knowledge about this whole incident. It's so disturbing.

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"myyams" wrote:

Here is another thing I don't understand. How can a plane just go off the grid and not know where it is. How is this still possible? If a plane comes into U.S. territory but falls of the grid somewhere far far before but keeps flying, does this mean the U.S. is not going to have any idea where that plane is or that there is a plane coming? And are all the rest of the countries like this too? This sound really scary to me. I just can't really understand how there is so limited knowledge about this whole incident. It's so disturbing.

I do not have a lot of expertise in this area, but I do not believe this would be the same as a US flight. I "think" the US tracks all of their flights by satellite.

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"myyams" wrote:

Here is another thing I don't understand. How can a plane just go off the grid and not know where it is. How is this still possible? If a plane comes into U.S. territory but falls of the grid somewhere far far before but keeps flying, does this mean the U.S. is not going to have any idea where that plane is or that there is a plane coming? And are all the rest of the countries like this too? This sound really scary to me. I just can't really understand how there is so limited knowledge about this whole incident. It's so disturbing.

There are vast areas over all of the oceans that do not have radar coverage because radar is only good for a couple hundred miles. Even where there is radar coverage, there is usually a thin band of coverage between countries because most countries don't want other countries to be able to spy on them. That's part of what happened here, the airplane flew out of Malaysia's air space but didn't seem to make it to where Vietnam's air space picked up; the plane seemed to disappear in between but it wasn't obvious for a while. Air traffic controllers rely on equipment on the aircraft to produce signals which are then picked up by satellites. If that equipment fails, or is turned off deliberately, then the plane is flying essentially invisibly. And yes, it could happen to a U.S. flight.

I lilke the explanations in the article Janel posted. When they said someone had programmed the turn into the computer, rather than made the turn manually, my first thought was something was going wrong and they were heading to the closest airport. They just didn't make it, and autopilot kept them going until they ran out of fuel. Anyone remember Payne Stewart?

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"Spacers" wrote:

I lilke the explanations in the article Janel posted. When they said someone had programmed the turn into the computer, rather than made the turn manually, my first thought was something was going wrong and they were heading to the closest airport. They just didn't make it, and autopilot kept them going until they ran out of fuel. Anyone remember Payne Stewart?

That explanation doesn't fit the newest information.

The Malaysia Airlines flight that vanished nearly two weeks ago was already 12 minutes into its diverted course when the plane's co-pilot calmly told air traffic controllers that things were "all right," former FAA spokesman Scott Brenner said Tuesday on "The Kelly File."

"One of the pilots clearly had the intention that he was going to take (the plane) in a different direction," Brenner told host Megyn Kelly. "It was 100 percent clear that this pilot or co-pilot was going to take this plane with the intent of doing something bad."

At 1:19 p.m. on March 8, 12 minutes after the plane had changed course to the west, co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid gave a routine "All right, good night" in his final radio call.

The news comes one day after the New York Times reported that the route was programmed into a computer system onboard, meaning it was not executed manually by one of the pilots at the controls. Senior American officials told the newspaper that someone entered a code into a knee-high pedestal between the pilot and co-pilot.

The revelation lends more credence to a theory by investigators searching for the jet that the Boeing 777 was deliberately diverted. The Times reports it is unclear if the change in course was reprogrammed before or after the plane took off, but the change was likely made by someone in the cockpit with knowledge of airplane systems.

Malaysia Airlines search: Jet already had turned before co-pilot's 'good night' message | Fox News

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That's very new information then. I saw just earlier today that the turn was programmed 12 minutes before sign-off, not that the plane turned 12 minutes before sign-off. Programming an alternate emergency route is perfectly normal, especially when flying at night or over an area without visible landmarks; the alternate route just gets changed as the flight progresses. But this isn't the first time that information about this flight has changed, and it probably won't be the last, so I'm not holding my breath waiting for an explanation. I believe the people are dead somewhere in the Indian Ocean, and I hope they all went peacefully from oxygen deprivation while sleeping on their way to China, rather than scared out of their wits from a crazed pilot intentionally crashing into the ocean.

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