Who is at fault?

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boilermaker's picture
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Who is at fault?

There have been a series of situations where teenagers (male and female) are violent towards innocent individuals (and then videotape and incriminate themselves....)

Here is the most recent report:

Six teenage girls beat Pennsylvania woman (warning, the video is painful to watch)

Six teenage girls beat Pennsylvania woman, videotape attack, police say - U.S. News

Who do you think is at fault for these? The girls themselves? Their parents? The schools? The public at large?

Has this always been happening and it just wasn't documented?

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The perps are at fault. In this example the girls are 16 and 17 years old. They are old enough to know right from wrong. These beatings happen often due to gang mentality. I think poor parenting (for a number of reasons) wre factors. There are probably lots of kids not beating up (handicap) people under similar socio-economic environments who behave better.

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Forgot to mention over the years, girls gangs and more violent behavior have increased. While women have from time to time conmited heinous crimes, the increase has been in the last few decades.

Excellent info
http://www.ericdigests.org/1999-4/girls.htm

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Those girls are at fault. And disgusting. Scary people that can do that and not feel a thing.
Not sure how society, or the school could be at fault?
As for the parents, i'm sure their choices have influenced the girls, but at this point, the teens are to blame for their own actions. And should go to jail. And therapy.

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I saw that one of the girls got turned in to the police by her own father, which makes me less likely to think that (in her case anyway) it was necessarily overtly bad parenting. Obviously, her dad cares. The other parents may not have even known about it. I'm not sure who (other than the girls themselves) are to blame. Maybe parenting, maybe society; I don't know. More than anything I just think the whole situation is very, very sad for everyone involved including the girls. I think about our precious kids when they are little and innocent, and I'm sure these girls were the same way when they were little, and it breaks my heart to think of anyone growing up to have so little empathy torwards another human being.

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

I saw that one of the girls got turned in to the police by her own father, which makes me less likely to think that (in her case anyway) it was necessarily overtly bad parenting. Obviously, her dad cares. The other parents may not have even known about it. I'm not sure who (other than the girls themselves) are to blame. Maybe parenting, maybe society; I don't know. More than anything I just think the whole situation is very, very sad for everyone involved including the girls. I think about our precious kids when they are little and innocent, and I'm sure these girls were the same way when they were little, and it breaks my heart to think of anyone growing up to have so little empathy torwards another human being.

I was thinking about the parenting too but since I don't know anything about the parents it's hard to comment.

Don't a lot of bad parents care? My parents were bad parents. We were always getting in trouble. They threatened to send us to juvey time after time. I blame their bad parenting as reasons for why we were bad teens. I am sure if we beat up someone like that they would have turned us in. They were frankly quite tired of our behavior! But yet..they kept on being bad parents. Sometimes parents just don't really know how to be parents or aren't willing to be good parents - because that takes time and sacrifice - two ingredients my parents didn't give. I can't really say too much about these girls parents, but I tend to think whatever these girls are is a result of years and years of whatever upbringing they have had along with environment at school and peers. But it's still the girls' fault and they should be held accountable for it and own it. No matter what societal trends are, nothing brings up kids with lack of empathy for living beings and turns them their behavior into psychopath like behavior beating up a handicap woman like that.

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"myyams" wrote:

Don't a lot of bad parents care?

I don't know, I suppose. I was thinking of bad parenting in this case as being parents that didn't care what their kids were up to, but I suppose the flip side could be caring, but not handling it appropriately (like beating them.)