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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Sorry I absolutely disagree with that. While some individual soldiers may be guilty of commiting rape, our soldiers don't routinely rape women as part of warfare.

    A woman in the US military is more likely to be attacked by a fellow soldier than killed by enemy fire.

    Rape in the US military: America's dirty little secret | Society | The Guardian

    Whether or not the case goes to trial, it is still set to blow the lid on what has come to be regarded as the American military's dirty little secret. Last year 3,158 sexual crimes were reported within the US military. Of those cases, only 529 reached a court room, and only 104 convictions were made, according to a 2010 report from SAPRO (sexual assault prevention and response office, a division of the department of defence). But these figures are only a fraction of the reality. Sexual assaults are notoriously under-reported. The same report estimated that there were a further 19,000 unreported cases of sexual assault last year. The department of veterans affairs, meanwhile, released an independent study estimating that one in three women had experience of military sexual trauma while on active service. That is double the rate for civilians, which is one in six, according to the US department of justice.
    I would never, ever agree to sign up for selective service. With stats like that, no woman should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    A woman in the US military is more likely to be attacked by a fellow soldier than killed by enemy fire.

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    That just reinforces that women shouldn't be in combat roles alongside men in high pressure situations, especially on a front line where troops may be camped out somewhere away from civilization. In a situation where a man feels like he is going to die any minute sometimes they do things they wouldn't do otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    That just reinforces that women shouldn't be in combat roles alongside men in high pressure situations, especially on a front line where troops may be camped out somewhere away from civilization. In a situation where a man feels like he is going to die any minute sometimes they do things they wouldn't do otherwise.

    Or it means that we should teach our men to stop raping people. You just justified rape. One post after saying our soldiers didn't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Or it means that we should teach our men to stop raping people. You just justified rape. One post after saying our soldiers didn't do it.
    I did not justify rape. I am realistic enough to know that it could happen, especially with the stats you just posted. I live in the real world not a dream world with sunshine and unicorns.
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    Your stats are missing something very very important. Men make up 37% of the reported rapes. If we are going to have Selective Service, women shouldn't get a free pass because there is not even a smidgeon of doubt in my mind that proportionally, the rape numbers are probably pretty close to equal. Women are far more likely to report than men. Logic instead of emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I did not justify rape. I am realistic enough to know that it could happen, especially with the stats you just posted. I live in the real world not a dream world with sunshine and unicorns.
    So do the women who sign up for combat duty.
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    Are we seriously going to limit women in what jobs they can physically and mentally have access to because of the potential to be raped? I have the potential to be raped in the parking garage at my work...should I not work in health insurance?

    Ick. Just ick to the whole idea that women need to be the ones to limit themselves and not address the fact that men are raping. It should be the men who are the focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Are we seriously going to limit women in what jobs they can physically and mentally have access to because of the potential to be raped? I have the potential to be raped in the parking garage at my work...should I not work in health insurance.

    Ick. Just ick to the whole idea that women need to be the ones to limit themselves and not address the fact that men are raping. It should be the men who are the focus.
    I'm sure that would work if women soldiers just tell the Taliban they shouldn't rape them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Are we seriously going to limit women in what jobs they can physically and mentally have access to because of the potential to be raped? I have the potential to be raped in the parking garage at my work...should I not work in health insurance.

    Ick. Just ick to the whole idea that women need to be the ones to limit themselves and not address the fact that men are raping. It should be the men who are the focus.
    Agreed. That rape argument is 19th century thinking, that is Taliban thinking, not 21st century American thinking.
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    But again, it is a known risk. If they are still signing on they accept that. I'm not going to limit women because there is a known risk involved.

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