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I believe that culture is powerful and lifting this ban reflects a mental shift from long ago.
Ideas and standards of behavior act like viruses. They spread. Keeping the ban in place or removing it signifies that is how we as a group of people are going to deal with this issue.
Last edited by bunnyfufu; 01-24-2013 at 05:13 PM. Reason: added "or removing it"
I personally know two ladies that are as strong and fit as most men. If they had the desire to serve in combat, I do not see why they should not. A man can be raped and tortured just as easily. I do not think that is a reason to prevent someone if they want to and are able to meet the challenges of the job. That said, not every woman is cut out for that job. I certainly am not.
That being said Bonita, these aren't most men. I really think I've only met one female my entire life who could pass the standards these men go through. We train the Combat Controllers for the Air Force on Keesler. There are literally days where they do not stop their training. At all; not even for sleep. They carry logs or sacks filled with rocks on their backs and run up and down in any kind of weather we have (yay for short shorts! ), they swim for hours and hours at a time, they eat stuff that would make most people gag just thinking about and that's just the stuff I know about and I'm not part of that area. The percentage of females that could make it through a week let alone the full training has to be teensy weensy. We had a guy at my last job who really wanted to be a part of it and was allowed to use down time to train (we covered because he was so dedicated so he basically trained 20-30 hours during work time and a lot on his own time too). He spent soo much time in the gym pool I'm surprised he didn't grow gills and still couldn't pass the time they wanted.
Gloria, the women who can do things like that aren't the kind to let fear of being raped stop them from doing what they want to do.
Another thing that just occurred to me is that some women are already *in* combat areas in Iraq & Afghanistan, they just don't have the title that goes along with it, and maybe not the extra pay that goes along with the title IDK. They are flying support helicopters and driving caravans and ambulances, and they are just at risk as the soldiers who *do* have the combat title. It's like we're saying women can do part of the job, the dangerous part even, but not get the glory that comes along with the combat job title. That makes no sense. Either let the women in fully & completely, or get them all out of the danger zones. There should be no in-between.
It takes 12 pounds of grain and 2500 gallons of water to produce ONE POUND of beef.
Livestock generates 65% of all human-related nitrous oxide, which is 296 times more warming to the environment than carbon dioxide; 37% of all human-related methane, which 23 times as warming as CO2; and 64 percent of ammonia, which contributes significantly to acid rain.
"If you care about the planet, it's actually better to eat a salad in a Hummer than a cheeseburger in a Prius."
-- Bill Maher
Nah, the stats just don't bear out that the average soldier is that much of a specimen. Combat controllers are not the average soldier.
The new fitness test: Can you pass? - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times
The Army Physical Fitness Test: APFT Soldier Fitness Evaluation For women a 19 minute 2 mile run? Thats SLOW!
I've know plenty of women in the races and tri's I compete in that I have full confidence could pass the physical requirements for the average soldier. Now, one of my best friends brothers is an Army Ranger, and yeah, that is a whole different level of insanity, I've never seen someone as fit (physically or mentally) as he is. He is currently training high altitude jumpers in Israel or something insane. That is a specimen. But swimming a few miles or running 1.5 in like 13 minutes? Cakewalk.
I have full confidence that plenty of women could qualify for those physical requirements. I'm sure that a percentage of women could also qualify for combat controllers/seals/rangers too ~ a smaller percentage, just like a smaller percentage of men qualify.