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The hypothetical that the gov't will make a lame decision to meet quotas just doesn't strike me as a reality. Who is pushing for weaker troops. There is no feminist agenda that wishes the world to be less safer place for the sake of numbers. That is the epitome of a phyrric victory.
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And I don't know about Texas, but in California, the physical testing for men & women firefighters is exactly the same. For peace officers, there are five tests that are individually scored and you need to get a minimum total score. A woman who might take a bit longer to scale a wall or run an obstacle course could make it up on a body drag or long run. But so could a man.
CA Fire Fighter Joint Apprenticeship Committee - Orientation Guide
General Questions - Commission on POST (click on "physical ability testing" for the drop-down.)
The number of U.S. states in which a person can marry the person they love regardless of gender: 30 and counting!
Changing or having different requirements for men and women is not innately bad.
*We* as a society determine requirements all the time.
Let's say I want to build an amusement park. I consult all of the best engineers and explain that I want rides where you must be at least 6'2" and less than 190 pounds. They would look at me funny and explain, "Ma'am, if that is going to be your requirement, few people will be able to ride." We'd work together to maximize the number of people who meet the height and weight requirements to ride the rides at my amusement park.
Let's say I am in charge for setting the requirements for firefighters. I can easily use criteria that will eliminate a great deal of the population. All I have to do is look at height/weight/average physical strength and adjust my criteria accordingly. If I set the requirement at a minimum height of 5'10", I can exclude many people from Central and South America and Asia. Likewise, if I set the requirement for a maximum height of 5'11" I can exclude a different demographic.
Over time "averages" change. The average weight of Americans is 20+ pounds heavier than the 1960s; height is 1" taller. Do we ever adjust the requirements as the average adjusts or do we start looking for shorter, thinner applicants?
Is the answer to fit the people to the requirements or the requirements to the people?
No, fitting the requirements to the people won't work. It's not innately bad, but it's not acceptable for this debate. At all. If women can't meet the requirements, we don't have women in these positions.
That's not how it works. Men and women in the military should strive to be in the best shape that they can be. The standards shouldn't be the same for a 60 year old female as they are for an 18 year old male. We are generally capable of doing much different things. A 35 inch waist would have me fail my PT test, but a guy could still get a good score with it. Because women have a real waist. I can get away with 14 pushups, but the minimum for men is in the upper 30s. Because men generally have more upper body strength. It's not our "job" that decides what the standards are, it actually is your age and gender. I'm an Airman first and a computer programmer second. Navy Seals are seals first and Sailors second.
It's not like a civilian job where if somebody tells you to do something you didn't sign up for you can just say no. You can't just have the bare minimum when it comes to physical fitness because you never know what you are going to be asked to do.