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    As long as the proper exemptions are given for those who have a valid reason they are unable to do it like disability, childcare, transportation and things like that I see no reason why those who are being given a handout shouldn't be required to do some kind of community service in return. Those who are working don't usually qualify for benefits but if they did that should also be an exemption, as I'm pretty sure it would be as thats pretty obvious. I doubt they would require 40 hours of community service per week, so if someone is actually looking for a job there is no reason they couldn't do some community service along with it, it might even put them in contact with someone who is hiring. I'm sure they could find something that could be scheduled in a way that it wouldn't interfere with their job search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raingirl28 View Post
    Obviously different circumstances would dictate different coverage/requirements. If you are on social assistance because you can't work due to a disability, then I believe they try to find you work that you can do. If you refuse to do work that medically you can do even if disabled, they can also cut off your benefits. You have to prove you are looking for work or doing something actively to get off benefits at all times to keep your coverage up here as far as I understand.

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    We are currently applying for Disability for Rob due to his leg. Up here if you are a Person with a Disability designation you do not have to seek work. You can, and are allowed to make $900 on top of your monthly payment. If you exceed that then you have to go off disability because you obviously can work. In order to be on disability you have to have the doctors backing that you cannot work any job adequate to support yourself (over $900 a month) due to medical reasons that will exceed 2 years.

    If you are on welfare then you have to be job hunting at all times. The only exceptions are single parents of young children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    As long as the proper exemptions are given for those who have a valid reason they are unable to do it like disability, childcare, transportation and things like that I see no reason why those who are being given a handout shouldn't be required to do some kind of community service in return. Those who are working don't usually qualify for benefits but if they did that should also be an exemption, as I'm pretty sure it would be as thats pretty obvious. I doubt they would require 40 hours of community service per week, so if someone is actually looking for a job there is no reason they couldn't do some community service along with it, it might even put them in contact with someone who is hiring. I'm sure they could find something that could be scheduled in a way that it wouldn't interfere with their job search.

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    I don't see them being so accepting of exceptions and making things work with current jobs. I think that the option should be there. I think that people should be monitored to see if they are just lazing around. But to require it would place the burden on all regardless as to whether it is needed. Why not just put it in place for those who need it and deal with it on an individual level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuchsiasky View Post
    I don't see them being so accepting of exceptions and making things work with current jobs. I think that the option should be there. I think that people should be monitored to see if they are just lazing around. But to require it would place the burden on all regardless as to whether it is needed. Why not just put it in place for those who need it and deal with it on an individual level?
    Why wouldn't they make exceptions? That makes no sense that they wouldn't make exceptions for those who are working or have an appointment for an interview or something. The article says they left it up to the Department of Human Services to implement it, kind of how they see fit. It is much better to require it for all and make exceptions than to just make it voluntary, which is no different than it is now. How would you put it in place only for those who need it? Someone decides that this person is lazy and needs to do community service and at that point they require it just from that person? They have the option to do community service now.
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    Sure!

    But! Let's make sure that everyone else who is subsidized by the government has to pick trash by the highway like criminals too!

    On WIC? Before you pick up your bottles or formula, spend a couple hours with a baby strapped to your back in orange coveralls picking up after litterers.

    Professional housewife who doesn't pay taxes? Make up what you would be paying for the roads you use and the defense of your country by shoveling dog **** into a plastic bag.

    Corporation who screws over the government for corporate welfare? Your CEO and CFO should be pulling glass bottles out of the sand on beaches and at parks.
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    Yeah come to think of it, I think people who pay taxes in general should be required to do volunteer work then...because in reality, you pay in, partly so you can use the system if you ever need to. Its there for you too. A lot like insurance that way.

    So everyone needs to start doing their part immediately. You have to pay into the system AND do volunteer work.....just in case you ever need to use it some day.

    That seems way more fair to me.
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