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    From HLN's live blog today, testimony from one of the officers who interviewed GZ after it happened. This is a prosecution witness, they haven't even gotten to the defense yet.

    Serino had told Zimmerman he believed Martin may have videotaped the incident.

    "I believe his words were, 'Thank God, I was hoping somebody would videotape it,'" said Serino. "Either he was telling the truth or he was a complete pathological liar. One of the two."

    Serino says nothing indicated to him that Zimmerman was a pathological liar.

    "You think he was telling the truth?" asked O'Mara.

    "Yes," said Serino
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    He may well believe he was in the right. Most people don't like to think ill of themselves. That doesn't prove he actually was in the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    He may well believe he was in the right. Most people don't like to think ill of themselves. That doesn't prove he actually was in the right.
    It doesn't make any difference whether he thought he was right or wrong, it proves that immediately afterwards he told how it happened in multiple interviews with different officers and his story never changed. He believed that if there had been a video out there it would have backed up what he said. The officers all believed him. He took a lie detector test and passed. All the witnesses that have testified so far have been consistent with his version of events. The officer who interviewed him stated that he believes that his life was in danger and it was self defense. And this is all before the defense has even called a witness.
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    Seems the prosecution is picking up speed. Here are a few tidbits from the past couple of days.

    A Jacksonville medical examiner on Tuesday said George Zimmerman had 'insignificant' injuries that didn't appear to result from multiple impacts against concrete.
    Chris Serino, the lead investigator on the Trayvon Martin shooting case, continued his testimony Tuesday morning. [snip] Playing portions of the Feb. 29, 2012 interview in which police played back a portion of Zimmerman's non-emergency call, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda asked whether referring to someone as "---ing punks" demonstrates "ill will" or spite," elements of the second-degree murder charge the state is seeking to prove. Zimmerman used the phrases "f---ing punks" and "these (expletives) always get away" on the call with dispatchers.

    Serino said it did.
    Investigators closely questioned murder suspect George Zimmerman about whether he followed Trayvon Martin and whether he was in fear for his life in a videotaped recording of a Feb. 29, 2012 police interview played in court Monday.
    "You basically jumped out of the car to see where he was going. That's not fear," said detective Chris Serino in the videotape.
    Singleton asked Zimmerman again about why he left his car, implying the non-emergency call painted a different picture than the account he gave her immediately following the altercation. Earlier in the day Monday, the court heard an audio recording of the Feb. 26 interview as Singleton testified.
    "You did not tell me that you said 'Oh (expletive), he's running, and you got out of the car at the same time," Singleton said on the Feb. 29 videotape. "You told me the only reason you got out of the car was to get an address."
    Both prosecutors and defense attorneys asked Serino about when and whether George Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin the night of the altercation. De la Rionda replayed a portion of the Feb. 29 interview tape in court, in which Zimmerman says, "They told me not to follow him. I wasn't following him, I was just going in the same direction."

    "That's following," Serino said on the tape.

    O'Mara asked whether Serino had any evidence that Zimmerman continued to follow Trayvon Martin after a non-emergency dispatcher told him not to.

    "I would answer I have information, yes," Serino said. "Just based on where we located Trayvon and the fact that the altercation happened after the confrontation. That's my interpretation. There was some following."
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    And I still can't reconcile the differences between what Zimmerman says Martin said and what Martin's girlfriend, who was on the phone with him during the altercation, says Martin said.

    Jeantel said Martin told her that a man he described as a "creepy *** cracker" was following him through the community as he was walking home from buying snacks at a 7-Eleven. Later, she said she heard Martin ask, "Why are you following me for?" and a "hard-breathing man" ask, "What are you doing around here?"
    That's when Jeantel said she heard a "bump," a sound like "wet grass," and Martin saying, "Get off, get off."
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    In the recording, Zimmerman describes the events of the altercation in detail, saying that Martin asked him, "You got a problem, homie?" before saying "You do now" and punching him in the face.
    [snip]

    "He puts his hand on my mouth and nose and says, 'You're going to die tonight.' I don't remember much after that. I couldn't breathe. He still kept trying to hit my heard against the pavement," Zimmerman said.

    [snip]

    Martin said, "You got me, you got me," Zimmerman said.
    If Martin was doing so much talking while fighting with Zimmerman, why didn't his girlfriend hear any of it? Hmmmm....
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    Depends on your point of view I guess.

    But O'Mara attempted to quell the prosecution's claim that Zimmerman's use of bad language show "ill will" and "spite" bay asking Serino if he would, "agree that a------ is used as a slang term?" the witness replied, "I have used it before."

    O'Mara also asked Serino, "Did you think there was anything wrong with Mr. Zimmerman following Trayvon Martin?"

    Serino replied, "Legally speaking, no."

    Although Serino acknowledged to De la Rionda that Zimmerman had no reason to believe Martin was armed, O'Mara, noting Zimmerman claims to have shot Martin while the youth was bashing his head into the pavement, asked Serino if Martin was "armed with concrete." Serino replied that he was.

    The defense attorney asked if Zimmerman's neighborhood had a "rash" of burglaries before the shooting. Serino said he did not believe there to be a crime spree but added that the defendant had believed there was.

    Serino testified Monday that at first he did not believe Zimmerman's story, but when he told Zimmerman the fatal, February, 2012 encounter may have been caught on video, Zimmerman's response of "Thank God" changed his mind, Serino said.

    Serino's Monday testimony became the latest prosecution witness to appear to do more harm than good to the state's case, recalling a somber conversation that touched on Zimmerman's faith and the fear he said he felt when Martin told him "You're going to die tonight."

    Read more: Prosecution witness: Zimmerman's injuries 'insignificant' | Fox News
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    If Martin was doing so much talking while fighting with Zimmerman, why didn't his girlfriend hear any of it? Hmmmm....
    Guess she was too busy listening to the sound of wet grass.
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    A Jacksonville medical examiner on Tuesday said George Zimmerman had 'insignificant' injuries that didn't appear to result from multiple impacts against concrete.
    Exactly.
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    A man who gets out of his truck to follow someone, then says 'he's running', certainly doesn't seem in fear of his life to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Guess she was too busy listening to the sound of wet grass.
    You mean the sound of her boyfriend being murdered?
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