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    As for the lying: not saying he is lying, but there's a whole lot of unanswered questions and inconsistencies for me to take his story at face value. He has a reason to lie. TM no longer has that luxury to lie about what happened that night.

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    My theory is that Zimmerman wanted the glory of being the one who arrested "the punk" that he thought had broken into homes in his neighborhood. The punk didn't want to go along with it and fought back, and Zimmerman probably panicked. Zimmerman had wanted to be a cop, after all, but it's one thing to think you can handle the job, and actually be able to do it, and especially without the benefit of a uniform & badge to show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    I don't think that. He didn't see this as an emergency.

    He's acknowledged following TM and getting out of his truck to "look for a street sign." Yet, this is a neighborhood that he fought to get a neighborhood watch for and patrolled regularly. It wouldn't be necessary to look for a STREET sign on foot. And he really should be familiar enough with patrolling it to know what street he was on.

    *If* he was walking back to the truck and TM started to follow him, why end the call with dispatch? Why not tell her that he thought the guy was now following him. Why did he decide right before the confrontation to tell her to call when the police got there? If TM is the one using a sucker punch and the element of surprise while Zimmerman is walking back to truck, it should have been caught on the recording because Zimmerman had no reason to end the call unless he was doing something other than getting back into his truck.
    I agree. I also have serious problems with the wounds on TM and how they match up to GZ's injuries. I know that it's been widely reported that TM had "bloody knuckles" and people have taken that as proof that TM beat the devil out of GZ, but if you read a story that actually goes in depth of what that means, what he really had was one very small abrasion on one finger of his left hand.

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    The official report, prepared by the medical examiner in Volusia County, Fla., also found that the 17-year-old Martin had one other fresh injury ? a small abrasion, no more than a quarter-inch in size ? on his left ring finger below the knuckle.
    Now, when you compare that to GZ's broken nose, two black eyes, et cetera, it makes me wonder how TM could have possibly hit him hard enough to do that much damage and only sustained one very small scrape on one finger below the knuckle. Maybe I just have skin like a peach, but I've split my knuckles just knocking into things, let alone intentionally punching someone hard enough to try to hurt them at least once in the face. I've never been in a fist fight, but I'm sorry to say that my younger brother has, and I can tell you that maybe thin delicate skin runs in our family or something, because he always came back with seriously messed up knuckles - not some tiny scrape. A small scrape sounds more like something you would get as you are falling to the ground. On the other hand, I've heard that guns have a kickback and it's not unheard of to pop yourself in the face while shooting one. So I don't know, but the whole "TM ACTUALLY assualted GZ" thing seems pretty suspect to me, based on the lack of damage to TM's hands and knuckles.
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    After today's testimony it sure didn't sound like Martin was scared of the Creepy [expletive] cracker that was watching him. Hmmm.... but Zimmerman was the racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    After today's testimony it sure didn't sound like Martin was scared of the Creepy [expletive] cracker that was watching him. Hmmm.... but Zimmerman was the racist?
    Wait...they can't both be racist?

    Not making judgments or assumptions as to either man's prejudices but TM being racist wouldn't have any bearing on whether GZ was/is racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Wait...they can't both be racist?

    Not making judgments or assumptions as to either man's prejudices but TM being racist wouldn't have any bearing on whether GZ was/is racist.
    That doesn't sound quite like the defenseless little boy they were trying to portray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    That doesn't sound quite like the defenseless little boy they were trying to portray.
    So, he asked for it? If I dressed like a s!lut and walked the streets at night, hardly acting like the good girl, it's somehow justifiable if I get raped? Are you turning this into a character debate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    That doesn't sound quite like the defenseless little boy they were trying to portray.
    I must have missed the little boy part.

    No matter, does being a racist suddenly make you less of a defenseless little boy?

    My 16YO weighs 100 pounds. If attacked, would she be better able to defend herself if she is racist?

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    As to theories, while we're postulating , I think that he had a ton of racist rage just simmering below the surface. He'd had enough, took the law into his hands, and exploded. If with all his calls the cops would help him, then he would exact his own vigilante justice without the cops' help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    I must have missed the little boy part.No matter, does being a racist suddenly make you less of a defenseless little boy?My 16YO weighs 100 pounds. If attacked, would she be better able to defend herself if she is racist?
    Also, racist or not, we're talking an unarmed 150 lb minor up against a 220 lb grown man with a gun. I'm not saying at all that he was a "defenseless little boy" but it also doesn't seem like much of a fair fight. Especially when you add in the gun, natch.
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