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Matt has had sleep issues mainly revolving around being a very uncomfortable teether. He is now getting one of his 2 yr molars and waking up every other or every third night screaming. It is making us zombies and he takes months to get the teeth in so we need ot do something. I give him oragel and Humphrey's but he seems to want to be held. I know he gets enough nutrition during the day to sustain him and there is no rhyme or reason to him waking. We are becoming like superstitious baseball players and trying to repeat whatever we did the nights he slept but it has no effect. Now he will be calm in my arms but then when I put him down he creams or yell (sometimes no tears when we check on him he is just yelling for us) and going in and reassuring him doesn't make him feel better. If he sees us he wants to be held. Lat night he did the same thing to dh after an hour of holding him, feeding him, changing him etc so we let him CIO since we knew all hi needs had been met. SO at almost 18 months should we just go cold turkey and let him CIO and learn to self soothe. He is capable of sleeping and I don't want him to rely on us. If us being with him made him sleep quicker without the screaming when we put him down I would continue. My other two never did this so I am a bit lost at sea

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Julia doesnt like to be put down to sleep and will sometimes wake up screaming during the night...she is also teething but I contribute her waking to waking up and seeing herself alone in her room and calling for me...she doesn't like me to put her down and walk away so I usually linger in her room and calmly settle her down...she will cry for a few seconds when I leave but not as bad as if I just let her cry and walk right out....doing the night I go in and pat her butt till she falls asleep...I don't see no harm in letting them cry some...Julia just doesn't seem to stop of I try CIO..So I try to calm her some...its like a mix of cio and not...good luck with the sleeping...

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Sounds to me like he is screaming in pain...not for no reason. K is working on her eye teeth and has been waking up screaming in the night lately. This is not at all like her as she has been STTN since she right before turned 1.

When we hear her scream we just wait a minute and often she will settle. If she doesn't settle we give her some tylenol and a cuddle, then put her back to bed. She sometimes fusses a bit when we leave but normally goes back to sleep.

K has also been super clingy and has a bad rash also due to teething. Eye teeth SUCK!

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I am fearful over over Tylenoling though. He will be teething for months, he is an early but slow teether

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We've had some success with a little bit of CIO. Back in Dec, Erin was sick AND teething and we have a week strait of up all night, cuddling, keeping her upright, etc. Once she was better, she didn't want to know anything about sleeping in her crib by herself. We tried going in to sooth her a few times which would work, but as soon as we put her down or walked out, the screaming started again, so we would let her cry for mayb 15-20 minutes. I don't remember exactly bc, she would always fall asleep before the cut-off time.

She's been getting up here and there lately I think because of teething and also bc of the temp (sometimes I think she gets cold in just her summer PJs even though we don't have AC in her room). We've gone back to going in and cuddling her for a few minutes but she almost always goes right back to sleep. Even though this may not be the best in the long term scheme of things, we both have to work so one of us taking 10 mintues to get her back to sleep wins over the entire house being up listening to her scream for 20 minutes or however long it takes.

Also, when I know there is some teething issues, I give her generic tylenol before bed time. It definitely helps. During the day, I try to stick with some natural (chamomile) stuff.

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that's my problem, he is up well over 1.5 hours at a time and doesn't nap so there is no down time and we're zombies. CIO never worked with my other 2 bc they would just cry and cry and it was horrible. They never tired out and slept and cuddling was the way to go. I am at my wit's end with Matt bc we seem to get no mileage out of cuddling and he ends of screaming anyway. I just hate to see my sunny kid sad but I know he needs sleep just *** much, if not more, than we do

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Seth is a nighttime nightmare! Not with teeth, but b/c he is soooo needy and anxious. CIO *alone* would not work with him. He could cry all night thinking he was abandoned. One thing that worked for us, I put on headphones and sat in his room with my back to the crib. He knew mommy was there, but I was not getting up to hold him or take him into my bed. After about 3 days he was going to sleep and staying asleep pretty easily. Right now, thanks to asthma, I have the playpen by our bed for him to sleep in. That works too. Have you tried playing music in his room? With my other son, that always did the trick. HTH!
Good luck!! I know if I were in your shoes I'd do anything for sleep!!

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"terib526" wrote:

I am fearful over over Tylenoling though. He will be teething for months, he is an early but slow teether

I've always tried to avoid using Tylenol at all...but if she's waking up screaming in the night and she's burning up, she's obviously in a lot of discomfort. I don't feel that using it once every few days for a couple weeks is considered over use, personally. I don't like to see her suffering...because when she is low on sleep the rest of her day suffers. I can see the one eye tooth making her gums all puffy. I hope it cracks through soon or she'll be below 20 lbs again...teething babies don't eat well.

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by over Tylenoling him I mean Matt takes months for teeth to erupt and he seems to be uncomfortable the whole time so when would I know to give or not give it, kwim?

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Ya, I usually go by obvious signs of extreme discomfort...waking up screaming in the night, burning hot, won't eat, etc. I think most of them teeth for months, but for K not every day is bad.

There are also some holistic type remedies. Not sure how well they work but perhaps you could go to a health food store and inquire?

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Does he seem afraid of the dark, or maybe there's too much light, maybe? I'm sorry he's such a bad sleeper. Been there, don't want to go back to it. :bighug: I would really wonder if it's just the teeth that are bothering him if it's for such an extended time.
That said though, if you can I would get his teeth checked by a ped dentist. Patrick used to be exactly how you're describing, screaming, sobbing for months, would NOT nap, and when we took him in we found out a couple teeth were bad. The bad teeth were transferring pain through the nerves so especially new teeth would make him a nightmare to deal with. After we had them pulled - and I mean that night - he slept. For the first time since he was itty bitty I got like 6 hours of straight sleep. Heaven!

I really feel you, Hun, and I hope you can find something! Life is miserable when they are.

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The kids have a dentist they see regularly so that may be a good idea. I am usually allowed to look in his mouth and nothing is glaring at me but you never know!

Now last night around 6 he got all phlegmy and sneezy and when he went to bed he was restless and I thought we were in for it. Since he seemed to get allergies or a cold out of nowhere I wasn't going to ignore him. Low and behold he is still sleeping! This is why I am nuts. There is no rhyme or reason. I woke up at 5 and coldn't go back to sleep bc I was so glad he slept!

We have tried more and less light and so far he ain't talking about what he likes better lol

I do give him Humphrey's 3 for teeth. I know Hylands got pulled for inaccurate dosing per pill

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Mila is doing the same thing, not sleeping well and waking up crying at night. I have been going in to soothe her for about 10 or 15 minutes, then I put her down and leave the room. I also leave her with some cold milk and a little stuffed animal that lights up and plays music. Most of the time she goes back to sleep but sometimes cries for about 5 or 10 minutes first. Its challenging, I know. I cringe every time she starts crying at night because I hate to get out of bed.

If it were me and he was continuing to scream, I would consider trying some Tylenol or Motrin, at least for a few days to see if it helps. But obviously use your best motherly judgment on that since you know your kid best.

How does he fall asleep at night? Is he falling asleep in his crib? If you are holding him to get him to sleep then maybe start working on getting him to fall asleep on his own. We did let Mila CIO a little at first but I couldn't stand to let her cry for more than 15 or 20 minutes. Now she usually falls asleep in her crib, unless she is sick or something.