Finding HB

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gracie720's picture
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Finding HB

So I had my 12wk appt yesterday and the dr says to me that we may not hear a hb because I had a c-sec with my son and the scar tissue usually makes it almost impossible until after the 13th week. She was not able to find the hb but had me schedule to come back next thursday. So now I get to spend the next week trying not to freak out that something is wrong. She also informed me that they will not let me try for a vbac since my pelvis is untested so this baby (pending everything is ok) will be here 1 week before my due date about Jan 25th (hope you all don't mind if I still hang out here).:confused: Just really feeling nervous and anxious right now. Not the way I wanted to spend my bday lol

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Aww, HAPPY BIRTHDAY Smile

The whole "your pelvis is untested" is complete and utter BS. There is absolutely n.o.t.h.i.n.g(!!) that proves this, as it is complete bull sticks Wink

If you are okay with the future issues that yet another c-section will bring, then no worries, but if you wanted to vbac, get another doctor or midwife right now. I wish someone would have kicked my butt and pushed me to find another doc (even in another state!) after my first section, and I wish that ACOG would have had different "rules" back then like they do now.

A doctor cannot measure to see if your pelvis will "spread". An u/s cannot tell them this. There is nothing that will, except for you trying to deliver naturally....without medical interventions.

I may be on a war-path concerning multiple c-sections myself, but it's only because I know the facts now, whereas years ago I did not. I also never knew back then that those surgical procedures can cause future infertility/miscarriages. I never knew that one would be followed by more and more....each with more terrifying possibilities than the previous section. I am urging you to give birth and labor in the way that you feel comfortable. I am also urging you to do research and then fire your doctor once you see the tactics that are used to get women to "just go ahead and have a scheduled c-section". And once you see the actual consent forms and all the facts that are supposed to be discussed with you prior to any c-section, if you are comfortable staying with your doc, I will be here to support you. If you fire him/her, I will support you as well.

Maybe if you check out some things (I am more than happy to help in any way that you should need/want), such as the movie "Pregnant in America" for instance, it will show things you would not believe that are happening....and the truth about what is held back on the "consent conversation" your doc (your meaning general you/your) is supposed to share....but never will Wink Netflix plays it and you can watch it on youtube I believe.

I'm sorry to post such a long response. I just get frustrated at all the lies that are told to pregnant women. I hope you know I'm coming from the deepest, most sincere part of my heart and mind.....I want women to avoid unnecessary major abdominal surgical births if at all possible. What decision you make in the end is your choice of course, but I hope my ramblings help you

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I wouldn't worry about not finding the heartbeat. It's quite common not to find it at 12 weeks, especially if your doc didn't spend a good deal of time looking. Sorry you had to spend your birthday with fear, though.

To the c-section...I'm a c/s momma, I'll be having my 4th in January. I don't agree to the 'untested' theory, though. No one is tested until they do a trial of labor and/or have a baby vaginally. That said, your history and health is your and your doctors main concern, and not knowing any other details, I say you should do and advocate what your comfortable with. For me, I am comfortable with c/s and trust that, knowing my history, it is the right decision for me and my family.

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Thank you ladies so much. I'm really not sure what to do right now. I feel comfortable with my dr (there is a group of 4) and I know they are the best in the area so I am not sure if I would be comfortable changing. She did tell me that there is a group of drs in the area that will let me try if I would like to go see them she will give me their info. I know my DH and MIL are more comfortable with me having a c-sec but I don't know why. This is going to take some time for me to think through.

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I wouldnt worry too much about not hearing the hb. It can sometimes be hard to find until you are further along. Hugs!

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"gracie720" wrote:

Thank you ladies so much. I'm really not sure what to do right now. I feel comfortable with my dr (there is a group of 4) and I know they are the best in the area so I am not sure if I would be comfortable changing. She did tell me that there is a group of drs in the area that will let me try if I would like to go see them she will give me their info. I know my DH and MIL are more comfortable with me having a c-sec but I don't know why. This is going to take some time for me to think through.

It took my up until I was 32 weeks to decide with DS#4. you have time and don't let anyone pressure you no matter what you decide. Really just listen to your heart.

I know my mom, DH and everyone else thought I was crazy for even considering a VBA2C. I just didn't listen. I researched, talked to my doc and then thought about my past history of deliveries and that all helped to make me feel comfortable with my own decision. You'll know the way to go when it's time.

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"turtnjay" wrote:

It took my up until I was 32 weeks to decide with DS#4. you have time and don't let anyone pressure you no matter what you decide. Really just listen to your heart.

I know my mom, DH and everyone else thought I was crazy for even considering a VBA2C. I just didn't listen. I researched, talked to my doc and then thought about my past history of deliveries and that all helped to make me feel comfortable with my own decision. You'll know the way to go when it's time.

I agree. You are the only one who knows what is right for you. That's why I said research and make your own decisions. Ones you are comfortable with. Like I said before, many will be here to support you no matter what you do Smile

gracie720's picture
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Thank you ladies. I know I have time as far as delivery is concerned so I think that is what is helping me not be too worried about it. I have my next appt on thurs to listen for a hb and will keep you updated. Thank you for your wonderful, informative and supportive comments. It really means a lot to know that I am not alone in this :bigarmhug:

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What was the reason for your first c/s?
You should check out:
http://www.ican-online.org/
The VBAC support board here is really slow, but the ladies on the Birthing Naturally board are known to support VBAC moms and are truly educated about such things:
http://www.pregnancy.org/bulletinboards/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=100&f=496

Also, I would personally run far far away from a doctor that said that to me. That is why I strongly believe in researching everything you can to make your decision. (You wouldn't have any other surgery just for the heck of it, I assume?)One doctor saying that does not equal 'research', IMO. Ultimately, it is your choice, but the idea of having a major abdominal surgery for no real reason while also having another child to take care of would scare me.
Good luck on your decision. Vagina Power!

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"TyrantOfTheWeek" wrote:

What was the reason for your first c/s?
You should check out:
http://www.ican-online.org/
The VBAC support board here is really slow, but the ladies on the Birthing Naturally board are known to support VBAC moms and are truly educated about such things:
http://www.pregnancy.org/bulletinboards/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=100&f=496

Also, I would personally run far far away from a doctor that said that to me. That is why I strongly believe in researching everything you can to make your decision. (You wouldn't have any other surgery just for the heck of it, I assume?)One doctor saying that does not equal 'research', IMO. Ultimately, it is your choice, but the idea of having a major abdominal surgery for no real reason while also having another child to take care of would scare me.
Good luck on your decision. Vagina Power!

Mindie- You crack me up! lol

I do agree totally with Mindie in that you need to research it yourself and possible find another doctor! What he said doesn't make any sense!!. You may decide that a c/s is what you are most comfortable with and that is fine but at least look into the possibility of having a VBAC Smile I would also be one that would not like having a major surgery while also caring for a baby and toddler!

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"gracie720" wrote:

So I had my 12wk appt yesterday and the dr says to me that we may not hear a hb because I had a c-sec with my son and the scar tissue usually makes it almost impossible until after the 13th week.

*lurker*

I believe it! I had a c/s and at my 12 week appt my OB told me he may not be able to find the HB. He had to reposition my uterus and search for a while to find it - OUCH!

I hope you are able to hear it this week to make you feel better.

Also - I'm on the fence about a repeat c/s vs vbac - I know how you feel. Smile