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"Missfcsjes" wrote:

so tell me your honest straight up opinion...

i'm back at work, liams getting half formula half bm,, which i'm not comfortable with. it truly bothers me. my dr says theres no prescription to increase my supply--

so someone pm'ed me some info. about a mail order pharmacy--no script needed obviously, it's not reglan but the other med known for increasing supply.

i've never mail ordered nor taken anything not prescribed to me.

talk me in to it or out of it...

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Humm...I don't remember the name, but I know for sure there is a drug that will help with your milk! It's an off label use, so maybe that's why he doesn't know...or pretends he doesn't.

I'd be nervous about not going through a legit prescription/pharmacy. I don't know the dose you need, and how much is safe. Most medicinces end up in the milk at least a little bit, and that's reason enough for me to want to be extra careful.

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I think it's called domperidone? A lady I used to work for used it (ordered it online) and was able to EBF twins.

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"joysiloo" wrote:

I think it's called domperidone? A lady I used to work for used it (ordered it online) and was able to EBF twins.

yep, that's it! a lady pm'ed me and said within 2 days , 3 pills a day, she went from 20oz to 40oz!

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Did you research the drug? What are the side effects? Honestly, depending on the situation, if the benefits out weighed the side effects, then I would probably try it. I took some pharmacology classes, and you would be surprised at how many pills are created for on thing and used for another...Like heart pills helping prevent hair loss.
Just research, research, research, and make an educated decision.

Here is some info I found online.
[LEFT]Side effects of domperidone:
As with all medications, side effects are possible, and many have been reported with domperidone (textbooks often list any side effect ever reported, but symptoms reported are not necessarily due to the drug a person is taking). There is no such thing as a 100% safe drug. However, our clinical experience has been that side effects in the mother are extremely uncommon, except for increasing milk supply. Some side effects which mothers we have treated have reported (very uncommonly, incidentally):
• headache which disappeared when the dose was reduced (probably the most common side effect)
• abdominal cramps
• dry mouth
• alteration of menstrual periods

The amount that gets into the milk is so tiny that side effects in the baby should not be expected. Mothers have not reported any to us, in many years of use. Certainly the amount the baby gets through the milk is a tiny percentage of what babies would get if being treated for spitting up. [/LEFT]

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http://www.drugs.com/cons/domperidone.html

this is what i found. the hormonal changes that may help you produce more milk are side effects, not the intended use of the drug. and it is available in canada, just not in the US right now.

but then again, i took unisom for weeks for nausea because i couldnt afford the prescription they gave me, and after a while it didnt even make me sleepy. i went to work, took a full dose and didnt even feel drowsy.

it might be worth a try, if its cheap. you can always start with a very small dose and go up, then wean yourself off it again after a few weeks.

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Is anyone else not sleeping much? Logan is still getting up about every 2 hours to eat. Last week he had 2 nights where he went 5 hours and I thought we were on to something! But he is back to every 2 hrs. We start our bedtime routine (bathe, dress, feed) at 7:45 and he usually falls asleep by 9:15.

He does nap frequently during the day. He is usually up for about 1 hr before needing a 30-40 minute cat nap. Sometimes he is up longer.

I am just so tired:eek:

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We are also not sleeping a lot at night. Just the last 2 nights we've gotten a stretch of 5 hours, before that you could almost set a clock by Hailey, she was up every 3 in the night. The good thing is that she feeds and goes right back to sleep, so I think she knows its night time. During the day she sleeps a lot still, she only manages about 1-1.5 hours awake before needing a nap. But man, what I would give if I could get 5 hours in a row. Of course when she goes down at 9:30, I don't go to bed till closer to midnight. Cause I'm an idiot. Oh look its 9:50 pm, she's in bed, and I'm on pg.org.

No wonder I'm tired.

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LMAO Meghan! Me too. BOTH my kids are asleep. wth????

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"Roobear" wrote:

During the day she sleeps a lot still, she only manages about 1-1.5 hours awake before needing a nap.

Logan is the same. Often he can barely make it up 1 hr before needing a nap!

I have been going to bed with him, so at least I am getting some sleep. After the first night feeding he goes right to sleep. But it takes a while to settle him down after the 2nd and 3rd. He usually has a lot of gas and/or needs to poop. And I also just LOOOOOOOVE when he is wide-eyed and wanting to play at 4am!

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Daphne usually goes one long stretch at night. Unfortunately it usually starts at 8pm and I have a hard time going to bed before 11. Other than that, she wakes every 3-4 hours and is up for the day around 7:30 or 8. During the day, she is up between 1-2 hours between naps. She was sleeping about 2 hours a nap, but moving her to her crib has disrupted that. She sleeps between 45 minutes to an hour each nap.

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Liam is still every 2-3 hours, even when I top him off with formula at night. Sometimes during the day he'll go 3-3.5 hrs (of course in someone's arms ONLY however).

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And by the way, I'm still on the fence about ordering that med! I mean, he is still getting about 50% formula during the day during the week and 100% when I get home and through the night.

He's getting 90% on the weekend, I may try to feed him formula and ebm if we're out and he's just cranky and wants to be on the boob for an hour.

I just HATE mixing that formula, it truly emotionally disturbs me I'm not making enough for him. I'm STILL consisently pumping the EXACT amounts.

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"Missfcsjes" wrote:

And by the way, I'm still on the fence about ordering that med! I mean, he is still getting about 50% formula during the day during the week and 100% when I get home and through the night.

He's getting 90% on the weekend, I may try to feed him formula and ebm if we're out and he's just cranky and wants to be on the boob for an hour.

I just HATE mixing that formula, it truly emotionally disturbs me I'm not making enough for him. I'm STILL consisently pumping the EXACT amounts.

I find it so odd that NOTHING is helping you produce more.... I have to give you alot of credit for sticking with it all b/c I know how frustrated you are with this all and I am sure alot of people who would just quit and give formula full time.... Just keep giving him as much mommy milk as you can - every drop you can provide is better for him... :bigarmhug:

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"Missfcsjes" wrote:

And by the way, I'm still on the fence about ordering that med! I mean, he is still getting about 50% formula during the day during the week and 100% when I get home and through the night.

He's getting 90% on the weekend, I may try to feed him formula and ebm if we're out and he's just cranky and wants to be on the boob for an hour.

I just HATE mixing that formula, it truly emotionally disturbs me I'm not making enough for him. I'm STILL consisently pumping the EXACT amounts.

You are doing such an amazing job! The fact that you have stuck it out after everything you and Liam have been there is awesome!
Did your Dr ever run the tests to see why you were not producing more? How did Liam's weight check go?

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I also wanted to say great job with Liam! I know it has been tough for you guys, so hats off to you Mom!

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Jessica, could you possibly have PCOS???

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How is bfing going for everyone?

Zach is doing really great, and we are almost at our next goal of 12 weeks.

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"ASIHER" wrote:

You are doing such an amazing job! The fact that you have stuck it out after everything you and Liam have been there is awesome!
Did your Dr ever run the tests to see why you were not producing more? How did Liam's weight check go?

He was 8.6 so a lb he gained! Smile Still in the 3rd percentile!
No, dr hasn't done anything...I called and asked about a script he says there isn't anything he can give me...
SO that's why I am really STILL considering ordering from that online pharm. the domper(whatever) to help with my supply. It's not used in the US...UGH!

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Jessica, could you possibly have PCOS???

I've been diagnosed with it. I could have sworn I asked you about that or maybe I thought about it and just didn't post it. I know you mentioned a while back that can have an effect on supply...

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"ASIHER" wrote:

How is bfing going for everyone?

Zach is doing really great, and we are almost at our next goal of 12 weeks.

Woohoo! Way to go!

BFing is still a challenge for me, but it's slowly getting better. She still gets bottles 90% of the time, but I've been good about getting her on the boob at least once a day. She doesn't chew me anymore, but she gets cranky easily because of my quick let-down. She's just gotten to where she can keep up with a level 1 nipple...and my boobs are way faster than that!

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Glad you are all doing well!

Logan is doing great! He is now going about every 2 hours during the day (was at 1 to 1.5). At night he still wakes about 2-3 times. We have our next ped appt on Monday. Since he was 13.6 at 5 weeks, I am guessing he might be around 16 now :eek:

I usually alternate breasts between feedings. His average time on the breast is about 6 minutes. He gets some nasty deep burps since he eats so fast. I don't usually offer the other breast bc after burping, he seems done. I wish he did take a little more at night though...maybe he would sleep longer between feeds.

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BF'ing is going really well here. During the day Hailey eats every 2-3 hours, we get one long stretch of 4-5 hours at the beginning of the night, then she feeds every 1.5-2.5 hours after that. She's a bit of a spitter, some days worse thn others.

She's 10 weeks old now, and we're very lucky. She's never had anything but the boob, and she's easy to nurse anywhere. She is for sure a booby girl.

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Still going strong here. Back to work 3 days a week and I think he is having an ok time going from bobb to 3 bottles a day then back to boob at night. Though yesterday and today he only will take the boob with a nipple sheild - I am not sure if he is getting used to the plastic feel or if my let down is too much for him...but we go through phases where he gets fussy at the boob - sucks for 2 seconds then spits it out but then searches for the nipple right away - we do that for about 2 mins straight until i put on the nipple sheild then he sucks fine!! Normally he gets like that for all feeds for 2-3 days, then he is fine without it...

I pump at work at least twice a day but want to do it 3 times but i feel like my boss / co workers aren't thrilled when i do it...i know they have to allow me to do it and all - but my boss (single guy) is uncomfortable when i go into the conf. room when i pump and gets mad when he needs me and i am unavailable - so i am always trying to rush pumping or schedule it when my boss is at lunch or in a meeting...

He eats about every 3 hours in the day and goes for a LONG stretch at night usually 6 hours -- from about 8 or 9pm - 2 or 3 am then he eats around 6am,then at 8am - then goes 3 hours for the rest of the day - and when i am at work my sitter has to wake him to be sure he does not go more than 4 hours during the day... the last week or so he has been only eating about 6 times a day...think i should force him to eat more????

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Jacki, that would make me uncomfortable at work too. I go back on Thursday and need to figure out were I am going to pump. We dont have a specific area we can go, so I will probably end up pumping in my car. Sad

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Sorry about your boss making you feel uncomfortable about pumping too! My work has been really encouraging about it. There is an empty office in the back that I pump in....only problem is that it is FREEZING in there! Oh well, at least I have privacy! I also get to go see my LO at lunch to nurse her (if she's hungry - she usually is)

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Does anyone else's LO do this? Savanna I swear just teases me sometimes. She'll be latched on and then all of a sudden she'll pop off the boob and spray me in the face (she gets sprayed as well). I swear she just has this little twinkle in her eye like she does it on purpose. I still think it's funny even though I do get sprayed with my own breastmilk. She's so silly.

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My LO doesn't exactly do that., He does act hungry, then latches on for like a minute and then pops of and starts "talking" to me and in between his babling he roots and puts his mouth around but doesn't latch on. I finally started telling him that if he doesn't start eating I'm gonna put it away. I really think it's adorable, but I can't be sitting here exposed forever. Smile

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Zach does some like that as well. He acts hungry, then bobs on and off babbling and smiling.

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Ellie does that too, i think its when she isnt really all that hungry though. she wont spit it out, just unlatch, smile and make faces at me.

we are doing good too, idk what i'm feeding her in my milk but she gained 9 oz in 6 days. she's going to be a tank at this rate!

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We have survived type B influenza. I had to stop nursing Daniel because I was way to weak to do so. I also didn't have the ability to sit up long enough to pump, so I was only pumping when I was severely engorged. I tried to pump through to empty but sometimes I couldn't sit up long enough to do that, so my supply dwindled down while Daniel got formula. Then the doctor put me on some meds that weren't safe so I had to pump and dump. He didn't get breast milk for 3 days straight.

Sadly, Daniel also got sick but he fared better than I did. It actually worked out to our advantage.. His appetite went down and I was able to sustain him when he was hungry to eat, then as his appetite increased, so did my supply. I'm truly blessed. I was sick from 3/18-3/23 And Daniel hasn't had formula since 3/25 (except for once because I wanted a break and my MIL offered to feed him). Then last week I got my first postpartum AF. I didn't notice a change in my supply with that, but it was still coming back at that point and my AF was two days of spotting only.

Anyway, I'm so glad that we've survived that long of not nursing. Yahoo

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Janelle- that's great you were able to nurse after going through that....glad you are all better.....

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We're still bf & supplementing for weight gain. I'm still pumping at work 2x and my supply is still the same...

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"Missfcsjes" wrote:

We're still bf & supplementing for weight gain. I'm still pumping at work 2x and my supply is still the same...

Considering you've got PCOS making things hard, I think you're doing awesome! SO many people would have given up a long time ago.

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Wow Janelle, sorry you guys went through all that...but I am glad you made it!

And Jessica, way to go Momma. You are doing awesome!

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"ASIHER" wrote:

We dont have a specific area we can go, so I will probably end up pumping in my car. Sad

Ugh, that is what I do because I am in sales. I HATE pumping in the car!

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"TalkingBabies" wrote:

Ugh, that is what I do because I am in sales. I HATE pumping in the car!

The director is letting me use a private office for now thats empty, but I dont know how long that will last.

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I thought that in the US they are required by law to provide a place for you to pump. My sister's problem is that she's a manager at a sporting goods store and she doesn't get her breaks and lunches at the same time every day. That and she chicken to pump in front of the security cameras.

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I think they do, but I have talked to anyone about it. I dont think I'd mind pumping in my car during the summer, but right now its cold and that wouldnt be fun.

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Yea, they have to give you a private room / area...and not the bathroom! Well, unless there is seating provided...and not the toilet. Some places that might be a confrence room, or it might be a screened of area in the break room, but they are required to find a place - and being watched on security cameras isn't part of the deal!

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Well, thats one of the advantages to being an NICU nurse..when I do go back to work, if I'm pumping we have a pumping room for our mums I can use, as well as all the equipment.

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That is awesome Meghan, I am so jealous.

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Any bf babies going through the 12 wk growth spurt? We are right now and its not fun. I got 3hrs of sleep last night. Sad He was sleeping through the night so beautifully and now this.

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OK, so I haven't pumped in weeks. I built up a stash for when I went back to work and haven't pumped since. Well, now I want to add to that stash. What I did before was pump first thing in the morning on the breast that DS did not feed on. I was getting about 6 oz. This was also in the first month-2.

For the past 2 days I tried this and only pumped 0.5 oz out of the breast that DS did not nurse on (this breast was nursed from 2 hours prior). I guess because the breast is "use" to its schedule, and wasn't actually due for another nursing session for another 2 hours. So, I pumped the breast that DS had nursed on and got another ounce.

I really want to be able to pump once in the morning and get a full bottle. Should I just pump both breasts after he nurses and will this eventually boost my supply for the morning so I can get a full 6 oz? How many days do you think this may take? Or any other ideas? Thanks!

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"ASIHER" wrote:

Any bf babies going through the 12 wk growth spurt? We are right now and its not fun. I got 3hrs of sleep last night. Sad He was sleeping through the night so beautifully and now this.

Oh, is that what it is? :rolleyes: She was sleeping through the night beautifully, and now she not...AGAIN. I thought maybe because she's teething, or because we can't swaddle her anymore (she busts out of even velcroed swaddles!), but the 12 week growth spurt makes perfect sense!

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"TalkingBabies" wrote:

OK, so I haven't pumped in weeks. I built up a stash for when I went back to work and haven't pumped since. Well, now I want to add to that stash. What I did before was pump first thing in the morning on the breast that DS did not feed on. I was getting about 6 oz. This was also in the first month-2.

For the past 2 days I tried this and only pumped 0.5 oz out of the breast that DS did not nurse on (this breast was nursed from 2 hours prior). I guess because the breast is "use" to its schedule, and wasn't actually due for another nursing session for another 2 hours. So, I pumped the breast that DS had nursed on and got another ounce.

I really want to be able to pump once in the morning and get a full bottle. Should I just pump both breasts after he nurses and will this eventually boost my supply for the morning so I can get a full 6 oz? How many days do you think this may take? Or any other ideas? Thanks!

Yup, your boob got used to not being pumped in the morning! I'd only pump on the one side. If you pump on both then you'll develop an oversupply on the feeding side. It'll mess up the foremilk/hindmilk balance for him. Just pump for a good 15 minutes, and your supply will increase slowly like it did before. Give it a good week and you shoud be pumping an extra oz or two...it might take a bit to get back to the full 6 oz.

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"Kendergirl" wrote:

Yup, your boob got used to not being pumped in the morning! I'd only pump on the one side. If you pump on both then you'll develop an oversupply on the feeding side. It'll mess up the foremilk/hindmilk balance for him. Just pump for a good 15 minutes, and your supply will increase slowly like it did before. Give it a good week and you shoud be pumping an extra oz or two...it might take a bit to get back to the full 6 oz.

Thanks Shanti! I will just continue to pump on the breast that DS does not nurse on. Hopefully it won't take too long to build my supply back up!

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"ASIHER" wrote:

Any bf babies going through the 12 wk growth spurt? We are right now and its not fun. I got 3hrs of sleep last night. Sad He was sleeping through the night so beautifully and now this.

Yep! Last night she nursed 5 times (its usually 3) and woke up at 2 am wanting a snack. She's definitely growing. I just hope I can keep up!

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what should i do with my extra milk? i have 200 oz saved, and i use maybe 1 bag a week, and i usually put up 5 bags a week, and an extra one for each bag i do use. i'm thinking of donating it but i dont know where. and i want to wait a few more months before i let any of it go, you never know what might happen and i might need it.

i dont have a designated spot to go to while at work but i can pick any of the rooms i want to, the back storage room, the basement, the bathroom (its a nice bathroom) or the fitting room if i really wanted to. my problem is i am working alone in a store and have to leave the desk and the whole store unattended to pump.

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"gypsy86" wrote:

what should i do with my extra milk? i have 200 oz saved, and i use maybe 1 bag a week, and i usually put up 5 bags a week, and an extra one for each bag i do use. i'm thinking of donating it but i dont know where. and i want to wait a few more months before i let any of it go, you never know what might happen and i might need it.

i dont have a designated spot to go to while at work but i can pick any of the rooms i want to, the back storage room, the basement, the bathroom (its a nice bathroom) or the fitting room if i really wanted to. my problem is i am working alone in a store and have to leave the desk and the whole store unattended to pump.

Oh, that really sucks! What do you do about lunch? I used to pump during my lunch break. I have to hope someone covers you so you can eat.

200 oz goes really fast if you have to pump and dump your milk for some reason. If you need to take meds that aren't safe, or if you just want to have a night out and do some drinking. I'd hold on to at least that much. I don't know about donating, but a good place to start is to call your local NICU and see what they say. If anyone knows where and how to donate, it would be them.

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I've been pumping every two hours since yesterday trying to get my boobies to work again....:) I am getting a little bit...in droplets of course. They are already getting sore and swollen a bit.

I was thinking of getting some fenugrek today but I was wondering if I should take some now or wait until my milk comes in? (hopefully my milk comes in...) Anyone know?

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Amie--My supply is not great for whatever reason. But I did notice a difference from the fenugreek and eating oatmeal daily (really like 2-3 servings).

I'd take it now, I don't see how it could harm?? Maybe some mother's milk tea as well, I drank that 2-3 times daily too. It did help. In fact I need to start drinking it again.

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