SO Confused! :/ (XP)

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verdouxkai's picture
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SO Confused! :/ (XP)

Ok, so I started avoiding the boards a bit because I was getting a bit mental, but I am currently extremely confused and wanted to see if anyone out there could help...

Warning: this is a crazy rant with a lot of technical info!

So this last cycle I took Provera to induce my period (I have PCOS), tested with IC's for O, and had a weekend where I *thought* I was ovulating (didn't take Clomid this cycle, wanted to see if the weight loss would make me O on my own).

So, took pg tests this last weekend (2 weeks after the weekend I think I O'd), snow white BFN's. So I decided to just wait and see if AF showed up on her own which would indicate if I actually O'd. On Monday, I had just a bit of light spotting, so light that it only was on the toilet paper. But a check of my CP was low, closed and firm, and there was definitely spotting.

So, since AF didn't arrive in full force, I took a pg test yesterday morning, still snow white BFN. Spotting continued yesterday, but again only on TP.

Didn't test this morning, but I just checked my CP, still low, firm and closed, but afterward I looked and I am having crazy stretchy CM, with a tinge of red. I mean, more stretchy than I ever have had, even on Clomid with clear ovulation going on. I am so confused.

Does anyone have any theories at all?? When on Clomid I would always O around CD 17, and AF would come around CD33....today is CD31.

It's driving me a bit batty to not know what my body is doing...I mean, it's doing SOMETHING which is more than pre-weight loss, but I just need a hint for goodness sake! I promise I'll be satisfied with either a BFP (OF COURSE!), or if AF just shows up without me having to pump myself full of hormones. :help:

TyrantOfTheWeek's picture
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PCOS makes your body do all sorts of wonky hormonal crap. Sorry that it isn't cooperating for you! Have you thought about going to the pill for a couple cycles? Yaz worked really well for me when I had suspected PCOS. My periods went MIA for a year and I had a pretty high testosterone level. Taking Yaz for 2-3 months seemed to even things out enough.

JuneorJulyBaby?'s picture
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Right before I got AF I would have some clear stretchy cm and then bam, AF was there. So I don't know what to tell you about that. Also, I thought with PCOS your body actually releases the LH horomones but then the cysts keep the egg from releasing. That is why some with PCOS temp to confirm that O actually happened, even though the OPK might have said so. Anyways, I hope that you get some answers :bigarmhug:

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Tyrant - Yeah I'm guessing my body is just being weird on me. I've had PCOS since I was a teen, so my body has always been off. It only ever seemed to start working correctly the last time I lost a bunch of weight. But, I'm getting ready to start TTC again, so I wouldn't go on the pill. Whatever happens, the next cycle I'll be back on Clomid, so that should make me more predictable.

Angela - Yeah, I hadn't been temping because I thought I had read somewhere that PCOS throws off temps, but I've learned that this isn't true - so I am planning to start temping next cycle, and I'll go back to using my digital monitor to know when I O, these IC's are just confusing me I think.

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"TyrantOfTheWeek" wrote:

PCOS makes your body do all sorts of wonky hormonal crap.

So true... Unfortunately, one of these wonky hormonal things is the production of EWCM a number of times throughout the cycle. You might have 4 or 5 patches of EWCM, but still not O. If you look through the Chart Gallery on FF for women with PCOS, you can see what a typical cycle looks like.

However, what Angela suggested is also a possibility; just before AF your estrogen rises, which can result in lots of EWCM as well. So fingers crossed that this is the case.

Have you looked into the drug Metformin? It worked wonders for me; my cycles went from 47-51 days long to a relatively consistent 33-37 days. It's also believed that it improves the quality of your eggs and therefore reduces your chances of miscarriage. It also helps with weight loss. The side effects can be rather nasty--lots of gastro-intestinal stuff--but if you eat sensibly, they can be controlled.

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Yeah, also Metformin. And vitex.

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Sorry you are going through this. I have also heard that a lot of women get EWCM right before AF, so maybe you are just getting ready to start. Fingers crossed for normal cycles for you now that you have lost a bunch of weight. And by the way, CONGRSATS on losing 50+ lbs. That is AWESOME!!!!

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Thanks ladies! Well, for kicks this morning I took a pg test AND a ovulation test and both were snow white, lol. I think I've come to the conclusion that the spotting and EWCM was my body's attempt to start AF on it's own, as several of you mentioned. If she doesn't come in full force by the weekend, I'll take some Provera to help her along.

I have been on Metformin before, I had just decided at the beginning of the year when taking a TTC break to get off all meds besides Provera when I needed it, since I was focusing on weight loss and getting healthy before TTC again (thanks Alissa for the congrats! I still have a ways to go, but I'm so proud!). I haven't been back to the doc either, I should probably schedule an appointment to re-start this process properly.

So, sorry for the crazy post yesterday. I think definitely starting fresh on this next cycle with the Clomid, temping and my digital monitor should take me back to not being so confused, lol!

Thanks again for letting me rant/vent/panic! Wink

JuneorJulyBaby?'s picture
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Sorry for the BFN but I hope that next month goes well for you.

cannycane76's picture
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losing weight can also affect your cycles weirdly when you have PCOS. it could take a little while for your cycles to adjust.