Ok... She says... All strollers can accommodate a newborn... Her recommendation peg-perego p-3 and inglesina zippy, and Phil & Ted, bumble rides, britex be ready... Her favorite is bumble ride and Quinny.
I got a travel system as a gift for DD1. Used the stroller some. Ended up giving it to my mom, since she was watching DD and took a lot of walks with her.
With DD2, I had a wrap (Moby) that I used primarily (especially when she was a newborn), and then used a cheapo umbrella stroller when she was a few months older (like, around 6mo, when she could sit unassisted).
I used that fancy stroller when I had it, but just because I had it and it was convenient. I really liked babywearing and it was convenient for us.
I have a peg perego p3 that takes the infant seat. With my first, I used it fully reclined when I took DD1 out for walks until she was older. When I had DD2, DD1 still sat in the stroller (only because I wanted to put DD2 in it!) so I just wore DD2. On days when I only had DD2, I liked the infant seat (and stroller) for running errands. I ended up buying a double because we walked lots and were downtown lots so even when DD1 walked, she still would get tired and want to sit.
However, if I were to do it over again, I would have the infant seat, wear the newborn and have an umbrella stroller for later. I used my $14 umbrella stroller more than my peg perego and double combined. We have a small car so I always have the umbrella stroller but the other ones take up too much room.
One thing to consider is babies aren't supposed to wear winter clothes while in their car seats so it makes the infant seat better because you can cover them in a blanket and they stay warm.
Both my kids didn't reach 20 lbs until after a year. That was definitely the max weight I would want to carry!
DD1 July 2008 (41w3d)
November 2010 (13 weeks)
DD2 August 2011 (33w5d)
Graco Quattro Tour Travel System with SnugRide 30 Infant Car Seat - Chadwick - Graco - Babies"R"Us
Graco - Stylus Travel System with SnugRide Click Connect 35 Infant Car Seat - Roundabout - Graco - Babies"R"Us
A couple options of the less expensive type (but still not cheap) that go higher.
If you have a Super Store or Loblaws near you, they often have a baby section and will have deals on these for significantly less
As a PP mention - you could wear your baby instead of use the carrier, but my 2 never liked being worn (and I tried multiple carriers) , so those are another expensive option that just might not get used for long.
We didn't have a car when Robbie was born but the travel system but it really came in handy. Also, since he was so tiny he was only 17 lbs at a year and outgrew the seat by height at 15 months. The infant seat was handy so when we did get rides it was easy to install and I liked being able to see him. He also slept better in his infant seat after being propped up in the NICU, for the first bit he hated sleeping flat.
Also, I have heard from friends here that the nurses really give you a hard time leaving the hospital with a convertible seat. I didn't deal with the regular PP nurses as Robbie was in the NICU and had a car seat test before he could be discharged. I know the NICU wanted infant seats.
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We bought the following stroller:
Full Size Strollers - Guzzie and Guss GG102 Caribou Stroller Teal
This car seat adapter:
Stroller Accessories - Guzzie + Guss GUGU 102 Universal Car Seat Adaptor
and this infant car seat:
Infant Onboard Air Protect Child Seat | Canadian Tire
I thought the car seat adapter would be a waste of money at first but I used it all the time for the following reasons:
1) DS was a December baby so it was cold. You are not supposed to bundle them up in the car seats so no big jackets. I used a car seat cover that fit nicely over the infant car seat, keeping him nice and warm. I would not have wanted to take him out of his car seat (=wake him up and start the crying), put him into a jacket (=make him even more mad), and then try to put him in a carrier all bundled up every time I went shopping. With the adapter I was able to simply lift the seat out, pop him onto the car seat adapter, and off I went with a warm/sleeping baby. Priceless!
2) I found it sort of difficult to wear DS while wearing large winter coats. The carrier didn't fit as well over ithem, I was not able to move my arms as freely, and it was somewhat slippery. Add a bundled up wiggling baby and cold/wet weather in the parking lot and things were difficult. You might buy a jacket that zips up over baby or wear a very large jacket that can zip over baby, but that still means you have to put on the carrier and baby in the parking lot without a coat on. It gets cold here (-15) and I found that uncomfortable.
We loved the stroller we bought because the bassinet converts from full flat recline (for an infant) to varying seating positions for a toddler. We still use it almost daily. Any stroller that has a separate bassinet and upright seat, or that fully reclines and converts like ours will work for an infant to toddler. I think many of these strollers are called "full" size strollers if I recall correctly. Or, you could go with the travel system and use the car seat while your baby is an infant. It is definitely cheaper than buying a separate stroller and car seat I think. We mainly bought this stroller since I could not find a travel system with air inflated tires (they were all plastic) and we take DS on gravel and bumpier roads for walks - this way it's way more comfortable for him.
A last note on infant (bucket) seats: I researched this topic a lot before DS and I believe that infant seats are safer for small babies than convertible seats. We moved DS to a convertible just after a year old so he would have a little more space, but he would have outgrown the infant seat by height (29") only 2 months ago and has not even reached the 22 lbs weight limit yet at 18 months. And, you can always use the infant seat for the next baby
Good luck - I agonized forever on what to do about the stroller situation but am very happy with the way things turned out with our gear.
i'll be the odd one out here Rachael, and totally support you! i have 2 kids, they have survived so far! i started leaving my DD's infant seat in the car when she was like 6 weeks old. IN MICHIGAN. IN MARCH. it was cold! i hated lugging that stupid carseat around sooooo much! hated it! when we went places i had to take her out ANYWAY, because she NEVER stayed asleep, so then i was lugging around a baby, then a carseat.... and still trying to shop? wtf was i doing? so i stopped taking the carseat! hated taht damn thing!
Even with #2, who was great, slept in the seat all the time, i only used it until he was about 3 months old. he outgrew the length that fast!
What a carseat is useful for : when you go places and baby does stay asleep in it, or doesnt demand to be held all the time, you can put the baby down. if you don't take a stroller some place (church, family gatherings... shopping) you might not have a place to put baby down. thats inconvenient.
like i said #2 was much better in the carseat and we still only used it a few months.
my plan is to get a used carseat (from a friend! trusted friend) and use that for a few months for #3 because i will need to drag baby in to the school to drop DD off at preschool. in january. and february. in northern michigan. i will get a convertible carseat when baby is a few months old to use for the long run.
i totally understand your pain with those damn "bucket" style seats. i hate them.
Here's what we have tentatively planned on doing. We are currently shopping for a bugaboo stroller and getting the bassinet for it. I will probably use an infant seat type car seat for a little while and when baby is around 3 months old I'll switch to a rear facing infant seat that will last me years. In my state (Florida) the law is baby must be at least 20lbs AND one year old to front face. Many places recommend delaying forward facing until age two. That's a personal judgment call once you've surpassed your local law.
I don't want to lug around the car seat either, but they are nice for small/young babies in the beginning. Luckily my sister just had a baby in November has a nice Chicco seat we will inherit for that beginning time frame and it won't cost us anything. I've already found several bugaboo models used for under $400 (normal retail $700-1100) that we are considering. I've even found one with all the accessories we want for $160 in my local craigslist.
I think once you make a plan for your personal situation you can better go about shopping and acquiring the things that work for YOU.