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RebeccaA'07's picture
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Circ's

Not thinking I'd have a boy, I am really not "well" researched on Circ's. But I know enough that I am against circ'ing this little guy and DH really doesn't care either way.

I was wondering, non-debate style, what everyone else is doing and why? Any good supporting studies/links/documents that you want to share?

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I don't want to circ. I sent links to my husband (mostly shock value stories lol) but he didn't write back. And he hasn't brought it up at all. He's a trucker and has been gone for 17 days. So I haven't had a good chance to talk to him about it.

Anyway, I had a boyfriend with a skin bridge caused by a circumcision. So I have seen with my own eyes that mistakes can be made. His skin bridge wasn't a huge problem - I think. But it creeps me out to think a doctor could screw up my son's junk!! lol

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Interesting topic! I am having a boy as well and already knew I was going to do it but didn't really "understand" it so much. My ex step-dad (mom told me -crazy, I know) was not Circ'd. He said it was a hassle to keep it clean because of the higher risk of infection and he wish that he would have had it done when he was an infant because now he is terrified to get it done.

I researched it a bit and found this: The Bible says "And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you" (Genesis 17:11).
(thought that was interesting!)

Found this as well on a reputable site: "The five- to 10-minute surgery is usually performed within the first weeks after birth. It's common to have several days of discomfort after circumcision. But complications, such as bleeding and infection, are rare, with the risk increasing after the age of two months and remaining higher in older boys and men, according to the American Academy of Family Physicians."

"Circumcision — Good News and Bad While the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't consider circumcision to be medically necessary, there are some medical reasons for performing one. Those include preventing recurring infections of the head of the penis, avoiding obstruction of urine flow that can result when the prepuce's opening narrows, and preventing a tight prepuce from retracting over the glans. Also, circumcision may reduce the incidence of penile cancer (a very rare condition)."

"Even barring these considerations, infections, including urinary tract infections in infants, are less common in a circumcised penis. That's because a circumcised penis is easier to keep clean. (By pulling back the uncircumcised foreskin and cleaning carefully, a man can reduce the formation of smegma, a cottage cheese-like substance that can lead to a foul odor and infection)." - nasty!

"Finally, circumcision might have a small protective effect against AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), "some research suggests that circumcised men may be at a reduced risk for developing syphilis and HIV infections." Some scientists blame any increased risk in uncircumcised penises on increased mucosal cells that can allow infection to enter more easily. What's more, microorganisms can flourish in a warm, moist area under the foreskin." Um, wear a condom!

With saying all this...DH says, "Get it done." Never even thought about not doing it until now. It's nice to research but...I dunno. Great topic. I would love to hear what others have to say!

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We didn't know DS was a boy until delivery day, but we had talked about it a little bit during my pregnancy. At the time, I was sort of taking the middle road, and left it up to DH. He, of course, was adamant about circ'ing, so circ we did. We had no health issues/problems from it.

This time around, all the "evils" of circ'ing have been in my face, and my pregnant hormonal self decided I would not circ again. But, DH is unwilling to discuss it - he says circ, no ifs, ands or buts. It's weird, my DH is really laid back and goes with the flow and talks with me about everything (I usually win ;)), but this is something he is NOT budging on. So, I'm pretty sure if this is a boy, we'll be circ'ing again. At this point, I just don't read all the terrible articles anymore and stopped beating myself up on whether or not it was the right decision. As a mom, you never win. Wink

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I just told my husband today I am so happy I dont have to deal with it again this time. We circ'ed ds and I hated having to deal with it. It did heal nicely in a few days and he didnt seem to mind but I hated that I put him thru the pain. If it was another boy we would have done it again, but I hate it.

The only person I know uncirc'ed ended up having very severe problems but not until his 80s.

People can argue for or against it but it will come down to how your husband and you feel about it.

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We cir'd DS1 with out even thinking about it. Afterwards I did some research (I know its backwards) and was totally against it for DS2. DH wanted to get it done so the boys matched or whatever and I agreed. He wasn't able to get it done until he was almost 2 months and it was a total hack job! I lose sleep over it, and don't want to cause him any more pain to "fix it". Basically, the urologist who did it left foreskin, and it healed so that it attached to the head of his penis. They tell me it's just a "cosmetic" issue, but it brings me to tears thinking about him getting made fun of in the locker room, or how girls will react to it someday. I am totally against circing this baby, but DH thinks we should still do it. It's not something we're discussing right now.

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*Lurker*

I am having a boy this time around. I still am not convinced on it. DH is. He always does what I want...except with this ha ha. His reasoning is that he wants his son to look like him, that he has several friends he works with (military) that wished they had it done and even one of his friends asked higher ups about possibly getting the procedure done (because of course he'd need time off to let it heal!). He even said that he knows a guy who got it done a few years back and said he was glad he got it done. Still, I'm not convinced ha ha. I've been reading up on articles and asking some of the other ladies from April board for links so I can be better educated on the topic.

One of the ladies posted this link http://www.drmomma.org/2010/05/death...cumcision.html about the dangers of circumcision. Now, it does have sort of graphic pictures, so if you don't want to look, I wouldn't (the way I get through it is saying it's not real pics lol).

I have about 2 months to go, and so far DH isn't budging on the topic and doesn't even like discussing it. Honestly, when I had DD1 6 years ago, I thought it was just the thing to do (this was before I knew she was a girl!) But now I see so many people against it and I have a friend who's been fighting her DH on having their son done (he's about 6 months old now, but the hospital where he was born wouldn't do it with their insurance).

Anyway, didn't mean to ramble on! Congrats on your little guy!

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Circumcision is not required by the Bible since that is Old Testament Law. Just wanted to mention that since it was brought up.

I'm personally not comfortable with it. If you really want to be convinced then watch one on YouTube. I cried and had to stop watching and it wasn't even my child. My opinion is there are a lot of myths surrounding circumcision and it's mainly a cultural formality. Most of the men in this world are not circumcised. I have read many different sites that support both sides of the issue but my conclusion was that it is not something I will do. I know this topic can become heated so I want to be respectful but I cannot help but feel like it is not my place to alter a child's body in such a way.

I don't think cleanliness is an issue. Women have folds of skin but we don't find it hard to keep ourselves clean. As far as looking different, circumcisions are becoming less common. Children that are not circumsized will not be in such a minority as the trend is shifting. I know those are two concerns a lot of parent's have.

I can try to find some of the links tomorrow if you like.

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"KET_2010" wrote:

*Lurker*

I am having a boy this time around. I still am not convinced on it. DH is. He always does what I want...except with this ha ha. His reasoning is that he wants his son to look like him, that he has several friends he works with (military) that wished they had it done and even one of his friends asked higher ups about possibly getting the procedure done (because of course he'd need time off to let it heal!). He even said that he knows a guy who got it done a few years back and said he was glad he got it done. Still, I'm not convinced ha ha. I've been reading up on articles and asking some of the other ladies from April board for links so I can be better educated on the topic.

One of the ladies posted this link http://www.drmomma.org/2010/05/death...cumcision.html about the dangers of circumcision. Now, it does have sort of graphic pictures, so if you don't want to look, I wouldn't (the way I get through it is saying it's not real pics).

I have about 2 months to go, and so far DH isn't budging on the topic and doesn't even like discussing it. Honestly, when I had DD1 6 years ago, I thought it was just the thing to do (this was before I knew she was a girl!) But now I see so many people against it and I have a friend who's been fighting her DH on having their son done (he's about 6 months old now, but the hospital where he was born
wouldn't do it with their insurance).

Anyway, didn't mean to ramble on! Congrats on your little guy!

Maybe you're feeling that way because those men were able to make the choice for themselves? I'm sure it's painful but it's painful for babies too. They are just not able to tell you.

**sorry about bolding too much of that paragraph, it's hard to do that stuff on a tiny phone screen!

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We are going to do it. It's just our personal decision.

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I'm not for it.

My daughter and possibly my son are going to look different from myself and DH in a lot of ways. I will not get my daughter breast implants if her boobs are not as big as mine (or a reduction if they are bigger). I will not color my child's hair if it is a different shade than DH's. I'm just not going to alter my kid to look like us- we're created the way we are! (And I'm not at all religious, so it's not a religious creation thing for me.)

My step-dad happens to be VERY proudly intact. The funny part is that the only reason he is, is because his mom was a HEAVY smoker, and getting him circed would have required her to stay in the hospital longer, and she wanted to smoke, so she left. He says he's never been so thankful she smoked. He had a conversation with my DH (who is circed and also mostly thought, "I am, so why wouldn't my kid be"), and I'm not sure that it changed his mind, but, it was powerful- even to me.

I agree with Kayla, we all have nooks and crevices on our bodies that we manage to keep clean... no reason a boy can't keep his penis clean.

I watched this video on youtube as well, and I really liked it. It's just one chick sharing her opinion, except that she also shares a lot about the mechanics of sex and how foreskin works (is supposed to work)- and I could really relate to it as a sexual being, having experience some of the same things she has. She's a bit long winded, but, at 11 minutes it won't take all night. Worth watching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BPEWw2Fi5Q&feature=related (She is very outspokenly against it though, so, just be prepared to be offended if you're pro doing it.)

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I have done it with all of my boys. It was really not that bad for them...I didnt love doing it...but my husband is NOT and he said he wished he was and he thought the boys should have it done. I would do it at the hospital though....and not later. My pediatrician with jacob said he wanted us to wait because Jacob had lost some weight (he was born at 8 lb 1 oz...so we were not talking about a 5 pound baby)...but I said to do it anyways...even if it was AMA. Bringing the baby back at a month and having them go through it..when by then its usually all healed and set...no thanks!! This time, I dont have to worry about it...good luck with your decision. It really is a personal one!

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"Kayla1981" wrote:

Circumcision is not required by the Bible since that is Old Testament Law. Just wanted to mention that since it was brought up.

I'm personally not comfortable with it. If you really want to be convinced then watch one on YouTube. I cried and had to stop watching and it wasn't even my child. My opinion is there are a lot of myths surrounding circumcision and it's mainly a cultural formality. Most of the men in this world are not circumcised. I have read many different sites that support both sides of the issue but my conclusion was that it is not something I will do. I know this topic can become heated so I want to be respectful but I cannot help but feel like it is not my place to alter a child's body in such a way.

I don't think cleanliness is an issue. Women have folds of skin but we don't find it hard to keep ourselves clean. As far as looking different, circumcisions are becoming less common. Children that are not circumsized will not be in such a minority as the trend is shifting. I know those are two concerns a lot of parent's have.

I can try to find some of the links tomorrow if you like.

I totally agree with you; DH doesn't care either way, I just like showing him links of supporting materials so he feels more comfortable as well with the decision. I've seen the video's and they are so painful to watch, I don't want any person taking a piece of my son when really there isn't any medical reason to do so.

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No way, no how. I'm pretty anti-circ.

Ya'll know that the MAJORITY of the world doesn't circ, right? They all seem to manage just fine.

This conversation always get heated-- so I'll just share a link that I really liked and I value the information from. She pretty much sums up my reasons for leaving my son intact.

Having a newborn is hard enough-- I don't need to add WOUND care to my to-do list. I also think my opinion is colored bc though rare, babies do die from circ'ing. I had two IRL friends who had babies in the NICU because of their circ. Talk about regret as a mom....esp when one of them just went along with the circ bc of her dh. They had some VERY rough times afterwards bc she felt guilty that her son was in the NICU and felt it was dh's fault (her son lost a lot of blood post-circ.) The reason that they give babies Vitamin K shots routinely is bc their blood doesn't clot well in the first few days.....yet docs insist on performing this surgery on wee ones then. Insane to me.

My dd's have to clean the folds of their labia to avoid "cottage cheese" and a "foul odor"-- but I'd never consider removing those.....right? To me that is like saying you should pull out all of your teeth to avoid having to brush them. It is illogical IMO.

http://sagaciousmama.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/20-reasons-i-did-not-circumcise-my-son/

My dh was circ'd (child of the 70's in the Midwest-- I'm not even sure they asked for consent before doing on in those days...) He and my son look different in 1000 ways-- this is so not an issue in our house. Miles knows that some people remove that section of skin from their babies and that some do not. He has intact friends and circ'd friends. I think what a friend's penis looks like is about as important to him as how my friends vaginas look. Doesn't matter, don't care.

Miles' penis is no harder to care for than a finger and we've had zero issues and zero pain.

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To us over here in England it's crazy shocking to us that circumcision is standard practice in the States. I cannot get my head around it because over here it's only performed much later if totally unavoidable medically (like if it's causing problems for the boy) we would never consider it otherwise and all the penises I've seen (not THAT many, don't worry lol) are perfectly healthy and suffer no foreskin issues. Not debating, just sharing my thoughts on it.

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We did the research and watched the videos before having ds and ultimately I left it up to dh- I think the lower risk of penile cancer is what clinched it for him even though the risk is small to begin with. There are some medical benefits and the benefits (for our family) outweighed the risks. The lower risk of getting STD's is probably the biggest one for me personally. I can pretend like my kid is going to be responsible every time he has sex, but don't mind that the extra precaution is available.

We would not circ a newborn with any real health issues that would have him in the NICU. Ds was stuck in there to get antibiotics as a precaution and was circed on day 3. We literally had no issues at all except some mild readhesion when he was a few months old.

If this turns out to be a boy, I think we'll wait until he's 8 days old for the extra clotting boosts that happens around then. I don't care what other people do with their kid's foreskin, but I'm glad we live in a country where all the information from both sides of the debate is available for parents to make their own decisions.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/04/news/la-heb-circumcision-20111004
http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/PenileCancer/DetailedGuide/penile-cancer-risk-factors
http://www.medpagetoday.com/InfectiousDisease/STDs/24217

eta-Not debating, just sharing reasons why some people actively choose to make the decision.

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The two friends who had kids end up in the NICU post-circ were otherwise healthy, full term babies.

The circ was what put them in the NICU. Just sayin'. You don't know which kids will bleed like mad or have complications until you do it.

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I think it's compelling that men in Africa are being encouraged to get circumcised as a way to prevent the transmission of HIV. One good thing about circumcision is it slows the transmission of STDs as well as yeast infections.
Obviously, each set of parents decides for their child what they think is right.
By the way, this board has been so respectful about this topic. We should all be proud of ourselves. I've seen this discussion get nasty other places.

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"jubileerose" wrote:

By the way, this board has been so respectful about this topic. We should all be proud of ourselves. I've seen this discussion get nasty other places.

Ditto! It turned into crazy talk on my other BB, along with the BF/FF debate! I saw an awesome Dalai Lama quote on FB yesterday that totally translates into parenting: "People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost." I think it's so true in the aspect of parenting! We're all doing what's best for our kids, and it's awesome we're all being respectful of that. Smile

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"JDBabyHopes" wrote:

Ditto! It turned into crazy talk on my other BB, along with the BF/FF debate! I saw an awesome Dalai Lama quote on FB yesterday that totally translates into parenting: "People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost." I think it's so true in the aspect of parenting! We're all doing what's best for our kids, and it's awesome we're all being respectful of that. Smile

Agreed agreed agreed! I love that quote, Jen... sooooooooo true.

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No circ'ing here. Did some research with DS and asked friends what they had done, and decided not to. At first I wasn't sure because I wanted DS to be like all the other boys (I admit, it mattered to me) but I found out a lot of my friends hadn't circ'ed their sons so I felt like it was less of an issue than maybe it would have been 10 years ago. DH wanted to at first, until I told him if he wanted it done, then HE was going to have to be the one in the room when the doc did it. He agreed at first, but when it came down to it, he just couldn't bring his little baby in and have it done. So, he is intact. We have had no problems so far. Half of our family thinks we are nuts and weirdo hippies for not doing it, but they think that anyway. We are the "black sheep" of the family as it is on that side Smile We won't circ this baby either if it is a boy. The friends I have who have circ'ed their sons (recently) were Jewish. I don't have a big problem with circ'ing, but if there's no real medical reason and no religious reason either, then why do it?

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Another question: I am no expert on boys, so - How is cleaning different? DH is circ'd, which is what I'm used to. But since we are NOT circ'ing this little boy, I have no clue what to expect. Anything to watch out for, to do differently?

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You really do nothing. NOTHING.

Don't try to retract the skin at all. Your son will figure out when and how to retract it himself. It varies for each boy when it will easily retract-- but you should never ever try to get "in" there and clean.

It truly is like taking care of a finger. I kid not.

Miles started to retract his around age 3, and now when he takes a bath I remind him to "rinse" his penis. Boys seem to spend enough time touching their own junk that he takes care of this himself while in the tub....

As he grows, he'll just have to "rinse" it when he bathes-- just like I have my girls rinse their labia in the tub/shower.

Just make sure your daycare provider and ped know NOT to retract it. That can be very painful for a little boy (like ripping off a fingernail) and just introduces infection. It should not be attempted until the boy does it himself.....hth!

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"boilermaker" wrote:

You really do nothing. NOTHING.

Don't try to retract the skin at all. Your son will figure out when and how to retract it himself. It varies for each boy when it will easily retract-- but you should never ever try to get "in" there and clean.

It truly is like taking care of a finger. I kid not.

Miles started to retract his around age 3, and now when he takes a bath I remind him to "rinse" his penis. Boys seem to spend enough time touching their own junk that he takes care of this himself while in the tub....

As he grows, he'll just have to "rinse" it when he bathes-- just like I have my girls rinse their labia in the tub/shower.

Just make sure your daycare provider and ped know NOT to retract it. That can be very painful for a little boy (like ripping off a fingernail) and just introduces infection. It should not be attempted until the boy does it himself.....hth!

Yes! This is something I was going to mention. As I understand it, the foreskin is fused to the head of the penis (at first) and should not be pulled back. I have read of mothers actually having to tell their Pediatricians not to do it, so be on the look out.

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Had the convo with DH today at the doctor's office - yup, no questions asked...he refuses to not do it. Great info, ladies! I will be traveling on unchartered territory!

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Renea-- YOU will have to consent to it. Just sayin'. Not sure how much you want to debate it with dh, but if you are strong in your convictions, he may still change his mind. Make HIM do the research. ((HUGS))

Also discuss it with your ped-- that may sway him, too.

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Renea - I don't know your DH's personality but I know with my husband, sometimes it takes while for him to get used to the idea of something. When I was pregnant last time and mentioned cloth diapering, his immediate reaction was that it's gross and he didn't care to do it. I continued to bring it up and he eventually came around to the idea. This time I brought up not circ'ing before I knew if we were having a boy or girl and he really hadn't even considered not doing it. I know we are having a girl but I was talking about it again last night and I think I could see him understanding why I would be against it. It just takes some time for some things to sink in. Maybe if you continue to gather facts and try discussing it again over a period of time? Maybe he will reconsider?

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"Kayla1981" wrote:

When I was pregnant last time and mentioned cloth diapering, his immediate reaction was that it's gross and he didn't care to do it. I continued to bring it up and he eventually came around to the idea.

My DH did that too! He thought I was crazy when I first brought up cloth diapering, but by the time DS was born he was all about it and it ended up usually being me who was the one who occasionally got lazy and used a disposable every so often (and DH would be mad at me when I did Smile Same thing with circ'ing actually, he wouldn't hear of not doing it at first, but then ended up deciding he didn't want to after all.

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My DH was the same... had to come around to it. First through our conversations and then also by the fact that we don't actually know any little boys these days that ARE circ'ed. All our nephews are intact, my BFF's son, etc. So, I think he's seeing that it is getting more common to not do it, and he's ok with not doing it now.

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I'm glad there is support for both sides!

Prior to my DD, I just figured that's what you did - circ'd, because everyone in my family is. But after I joined these boards, I learned a crazy amount of information and knew if we were to ever have a son, there was no way I could ever circ him. I'm lucky in the fact that DH doesn't care either way, he knows that I am well researched and I'm not making some silly decision. He trusts that what I'm telling (and showing him) are all factual points.

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I'll second Audra (I think it was Audra?) and say that it doesn't require any special care at all. It's actually less maintenance than a circ at first because you don't have to do any wound care or worry about reattachment or anything. Around a year, I remember DS getting a little yeast infection in there, and we just dabbed a little cream on it (something prescribed by the ped) and it went away. No biggie. Other than that, I have literally done NOTHING extra to care for it. As PP have mentioned, the first person to retract the skin should be the kid himself (I forget how old they are when that is likely to happen, but it is when they are old enough to be able to take care of it themselves), and so at some point you have to have a conversation with your son to let him know he may notice that he can retract the skin and once that happens he should retract it while bathing and just give it a rinse. Oh, another thing that was a bit alarming to me at first but is nothing was DS would pull on his and stretch the skin like it was a rubber band during diaper changes! DH (who is circ'ed) was like "ow, he's going to hurt himself!" but the foreskin isn't all that sensitive, it's there to protect the more sensitive parts. So it doesn't hurt them at all to do that.

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Men in England guys are almost NEVER circ'd! They don't have dirty or smelly penises, they don't spread disease, they don't require special care practices for their foreskin, we don't have higher rates of STDs. It is unthinkable to do that to a baby here unless absolutely unavoidable. It SUPPOSED to be there. I literally cannot understand it at all. I dated a guy who was circ'd once and it was soooo weird, I didn't like it one bit lol. British ladies like their guys intact.

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"Willybobs" wrote:

Men in England guys are almost NEVER circ'd! They don't have dirty or smelly penises, they don't spread disease, they don't require special care practices for their foreskin, we don't have higher rates of STDs. It is unthinkable to do that to a baby here unless absolutely unavoidable. It SUPPOSED to be there. I literally cannot understand it at all. I dated a guy who was circ'd once and it was soooo weird, I didn't like it one bit lol. British ladies like their guys intact.

I love this. Thank you!

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My DH and I had decided, if we had a boy, that we would not do a circumcision. It is a personal decision for us.

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:lurk:
Just want to give you ladies major kudos for taking a topic that can easily get out of control and heated and nasty, and keeping it calm and level-headed! The circumcision debate divides many a birth board!

Pat yourself on the back for this one!
:pinkelephant:

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"Willybobs" wrote:

Men in England guys are almost NEVER circ'd! They don't have dirty or smelly penises, they don't spread disease, they don't require special care practices for their foreskin, we don't have higher rates of STDs. It is unthinkable to do that to a baby here unless absolutely unavoidable. It SUPPOSED to be there. I literally cannot understand it at all. I dated a guy who was circ'd once and it was soooo weird, I didn't like it one bit lol. British ladies like their guys intact.

I told my (Frenchie Canadian) husband about this debate. He was pretty clueless about the US tradition. He was like WHAT!!!!!????? Really? So many US men do this? I think it is compelling men in England and, indeed, that most the world is not. (I did not with my son.)

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Nope. It's a personal decision, all right, one belonging to the owner of said genitals. I see it as a human rights issue.

My husband is cut and sees no reason to perpetuate a cosmetic tradition. We don't put chest hair wigs on our baby boys, either.

Our son is intact. Any future children, male or female, will also remain intact.

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No circ for our boy. Dh defaulted to "of course we will circ," but that was not something I could agree to without darn good reason. The men in my family are intact and problem-free. I thought it was weird that dh is circ'd because that isn't normal to me. I researched circ, but there are no potential benefits that outweigh the risks and the cost of losing the foreskin. I had dh read info. He conceded that we didn't have to do it. That was good because I would not have let it happen even if dh wanted it. Wink Dh can make decisions about his own penis, but our son is the only one who will make decisions about his. Smile

The link in my siggy is an easy-going discussion of circumcision and outlines the reasons why our son will not be circumcised. I also love the Penn&Teller Bullsh!t episode on circumcision. Smile

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