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MJDttc's picture
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Just saw an ad...

On CL that is a woman trying to sell her breast milk... ERM I guess if it were going to an adult (for those fetish-y types) I would be ok, but buying BM from craigslist for a baby I am not sure I am ok with that, because even though they give you the "assurance" they aren't doing drugs or drinking or heaven forbid have some communicable disease, how do you really know? I mean Milk Banks test for those sorts of things I imagine. And she is selling it for 20-30 dollars per 6 ounces. Is this normal for people to sell breast milk like this and for this price or am I extremely sheltered (and possibly missing out on the milk for profit game?)

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I've seen it before too. I know there is a local group that helps share breast milk for free. Apparently it's super beneficial to preemies. I could never sell it to adults. The creepy factor is too high! LOL

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But the groups test the donors I am sure, cause though "breast is best" (according to some) I am pretty sure you don't want to give your newborn hepatitis or HIV. And to sell such a small amount for such an exuberant price? Selling it on craigslist for other babies seems wrong to me. Donated through the proper channels, it is a great thing. I dunno.

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I don't agree with selling breastmilk for any reason. However I am a HUGE supporter of milk donation through Eats on Feets and Human Milk 4 Human Babies. I tried to pump to donate to babies in need but couldn't get enough Sad when I was away from DD overnight recently, I received donor milk from a friend who is nursing her toddler and I was so grateful. I have three other moms who will pump or nurse DD for me if we need to be separated again. Then by June I should hopefully be overflowing with milk again, lol! I strongly believe in sharing breastmilk. You can screen your donors appropriately, and you can flash pasteurize if desired (though you lose nutrients).

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Oh, I forgot to add - t's pretty rare too, to see communicable diseases in donated milk. It comes from nursing moms who are nursing their own babes, so of course they want to be sure it is safe for their own LOs. Getting to know your donor and finding one who is open to disclosing any medications or supplements they are on is key, and looking through the groups I mentioned above is a better way to do it than Craigslist. There are dangers to formula too (recalls etc) that people often forget!

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I didn't really know about milk donation when I was BF DD. I'll definitely try to donate some this time. I really dislike pumping but it's worth it.

This is my local FB group...you might like it too Hilary. Smile

https://www.facebook.com/hm4hbvanisle

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I would never give my kid someone else's breast milk unless it was life and death. I have a local friend who was pumping and giving milk to another local mom--no group, no milk bank, no testing. Now she is finding out her milk has an extremely low fat content and while she has always blamed her tiny children on genetics, they now believe it's poor quality of her milk. Her daughter was 7 pounds at birth and 12 pounds at a year. One month on cows milk and she's up two pounds. I'm not sure even milk banks test for quality of that sort? Or just diseases? At any rate, I would choose formula before I'd take someone else's milk ( except maybe in the NICU). I guess it could be an issue for me if i was unable to feed directly--I can easily nurse but I can't pump, nothing comes out (but my breastfed baby weighed 20 pounds at five months so I know it's in there!!

And buying it off Craigslist? No way.

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I guess i missed out on donating or selling as i never knew about it. I ended up dumping about 60 8 oz bags after elora stopped. Now i know

MJDttc's picture
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Hilary- You let friends BF your daughter? Not that I am opposed I just haven't heard much about it, can't say the thought never crossed my mind when someone elses kid was screaming and hungry.

I wasn't able to get much out when I pumped (maybe 4 ounces), and was a SAHM the entire first two years. I had a crummy pump too. I think we are going to take advantage of the free pump from insurance, if I have better luck with a better pump I will donate though.

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More power to those that can do it but there's no way on God's green Earth than some other woman's ANYTHING in going in my baby's body. :nono:

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If I had a preemie and couldn't pump enough milk, I would absolutely take donated milk from a milk bank, OR if I knew a friend (very well) and she had extra milk and was willing to donate it to me, I would likely take it. I think I would actually feel better taking it from a really good friend, then a milk bank.

As for adults - there are adults who have cancer (and I think there may be other diseases too) where breast milk actually makes a HUGE difference in the outcome of their disease, SERIOUSLY!! There is absolutely some amazing stuff in breast milk, and honestly, "science" has found some of the benefits, but there are clearly so many that I don't think "science" has come close to finding all of them yet. So, while it may be a fetish for some, I have seem ads where people are begging for someone to sell them some milk for their sick parent or spouse with cancer.

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Mary: I have a pretty cheap pump too and was able to get twice as much pumping when my DS was a baby than with my first. I figure I just made a ton more for him as he's a big eater. But I'd totally get a nice pump if my insurance paid for it (not that I pump that much).

Adriana: I don't think I could do it either. Being a baby myself who never had breast milk once I guess I just have an easy time personally with the decision to use formula if BF'ing didn't work out for some reason. The only exception I would consider would be a preemie but hopefully I'd be able to pump my own!

Laurie: ITA that I'd feel more comfortable using someone's milk I knew but I still just don't know. I had no idea about the cancer patients - interesting!

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The pump I had already been used through three kids (my sister and SIL) I am pretty sure the motor wasn't up to what it could have been... lol

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I work in a pediatric icu and have had patients that received BM from a bank. I know at the bank they pasteurize the milk just like they do cows milk so that you can't catch anything communicable from the milk. But you do loose some of the nutrients doing that. I know they also do test the mother and the milk for stuff too. I would much rather use a credible bank than someone on CL. That's just strange.

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Heather: I am already in that group haha Smile

Mary: yes, if they were babysitting her and I was not present. It would calm and nourish her and give her some security if I was not there and she was upset. Wet nursing used to be extremely common.

As for the comment regarding another woman's milk going into a different baby - I am absolutely in favour of that. Human milk is far more beneficial than cow's milk, which is of course what most formulas are made with. In fact, it is a huge immune booster. My baby has my immunity from everything I have been exposed to - another mom will have been exposed to other illnesses and now my baby would benefit from that.

If you trust your donor, it is the best thing you can give your baby. In response to some of the comments above, pleae don't forget that formula is NOT 100% safe either. it can be contaminated extremely easily and is often recalled. I know there are situations where formula is necessary and I am not saying it is a bad thing.

As for babies gaining more on formula or cow's milk, cow's milk is super fatty to encourage the rapid physical growth cows need. Human babies need rapid brain growth, hence the entirely different composition of breast milk. I've done extensive research on this and if anyone is interested in discussing it further I would be happy to share.

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The baby and mom I am talking about are an extreme case. She not only wasn't gaining, she wasn't growing, period. She's only moving into 3-6 month clothes after switching to a fatty milk. (She is 14 months old now) She is going to be in therapy for delays and has to have blood tests every few months. And they really believe it was her mom's milk because as soon as she was weaned, she started getting bigger, stronger and healthier, happier... She was so fussy and its because she was always hungry. She sleeps all night instead of waking up screaming and starving. Sometimes it does happen that a woman has lousy milk. And this mom was donating milk to other babies, not knowing what was going on. That may be rare but obviously it can happen and that's what makes me nervous.

I have one exclusively formula fed baby and one 95% breastfed baby (he got one bottle of formula a day after three months bevause i couldnt pump). They are both equally intelligent, athletic, and healthy. Each has been sick only 2 or 3 times. The only difference I have seen is that my formula baby was extremely fussy and I believe that's because formula is harder to digest and her tummy always hurt. For me the biggest positive of breast milk is that it's easy to digest and generally makes for less fussy babies (in my experience anyway). But that's not enough for me to trust that anyone but me is doing what they should and I wouldn't trust someone else's untested milk through a swap or private donation.

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No matter where you lie on the subject of donated BM, I think it's crazy that anyone would be willing to buy some off CL!! Crazy