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    Wow that is awesome Sheila! That is a huge accomplishment feeding TWO babies breastmilk!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by triplespiral View Post
    Good work!

    I also moved to no bottles for my boy. My girl gets only pumped milk now though. No extra supply yet, but 100% boob was a big achievement!
    That's amazing feeding two babies BM at the same time! I struggle with Trystan alone!

    I've been eating the lactation cookies every day, taking nine fenugreek per day, and now drinking Gatorade to try and keep things up. I'm still wondering in the back of my mind if I stopped doing all of that if it would really affect my milk or not? I don't want to test the theory, but still...
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    Thanks. It's an insane commitment (full-time boobing plus six 20-minute pumps each day) so I won't be able to go on to natural weaning.

    Yeah, I have no idea how much the fenugreek actually helps me so I have pretty much dropped it but I feel like it must be one of those things that people have varying sensitivity to.

    What definitely works though (meaning I see a huge drop if I don't) is eating a giant bowl (3 servings maybe?) of oatmeal every morning, generally eating and drinking a lot, hands-on pumping (http://newborns.stanford.edu/Breastf...roduction.html), using very comfortable flanges (http://www.pumpinpal.com/), and pumping dry.

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    Thanks for the tips Sheila. These past few days I really feel as though my supply is dwindling again... and it's so frustrating. I'll definitely have to make it a point to start eating oatmeal every single day, and I'm going to up my fenugreek as well (since I still don't smell like maple syrup taking nine per day!). I guess I'll also have to start pumping more often while I'm at work. I never get a let down when I pump, but I guess even stimulating the nipples will trick my body into making more milk if I pump every two hours like clockwork. Yesterday and today Trystan had screaming fits while I tried to feed him. He's refusing the breast because he's not getting that instant gratification like he does from a bottle when I'm at work. It's so exhausting and breaks my heart when he does this, it's enough to make me want to just throw it the towel on BF. I hate that it's so easy for some women to BF and yet such a pain in the @ss for me (sorry if that offends anyone, this is just been super hard on me).
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    Way to go Sheila, that is INCREDIBLE, I can't believe you fit in 6 20min pumping sessions and full time BFing while parenting twins. That is such an achievement, you are superwoman

    Krystal, I am so sorry to hear you are struggling now I really wish BFing was one of those things that came easily to everyone who wanted to do it. It is not fair that some women have to work so hard for it. Just keep doing the best you can, you too are showing such amazing dedication!!!




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    I'm realizing now it's a struggle for more people than I ever knew. I nearly exclusively pumped for the first 8 weeks because my nipples were so destroyed. I'm still recovering on one side and bras are excruciating. I just can't breastfeed one of my babies. I know everyone gets some guilt over what they are or are not capable of doing with breastfeeding, but try feeding only one of a set of twins. Anyway, one close friend had to give up after a few weeks because of the pain and another told me about her month of syringe feeding a preemie and then dealing with tongue tie. I went to a breastfeeding support group for weeks and heard so many more struggles. I had only seen the women who were good at it, the ones who could stuff a hungry baby under their shirt and all would be well. But it's freakin' hard. Anyway, if you decide to stop, Krystal, it's not giving up. I mean, you breastfed for over 4 months so far. I don't know about you, but my supply varies and growth spurts mess everything up, so maybe it's not dwindling. One thing that bugs (not that you said this! I just mean in general) is when people say they "only" pump a couple of ounces. I'm about to finish here with 3 ounces and that happens a lot. And I'm feeding two. So pumping any amount counts. But also, if you just keep going there will be a 2nd and sometimes 3rd letdown after many minutes. I'm just rambling. Point is, breastfeeding is nutritious for babies but not the lovely easy beautiful bonding time for all of us.

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    I know what you mean Sheila. I have a girl that I work with that had her son just a month after I had Trystan, and it didn't matter how much I told her about how important BF is, she just didn't do it because it was "too much of a pain" for her. She had no supply issues, no latching issues, and she even said that while she would feed him on one side, milk would literally pour out of the other side! It hurts my head just typing about it lol... but what can you do? I think the most frustrating thing to me is not getting a let down when I pump... ever... that's why I can never pump much out. The only milk that comes out is what's sitting at the front of the breast I suppose. Trystan is the only thing that can cause me to have a let down. I always thought if I could just attain a let down somehow while pumping I wouldn't have such a tough time. But as you said, it's hard work all the way around for so many women, and I'm very proud to say I've done it this long, no matter what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starryblue702 View Post
    I'm very proud to say I've done it this long, no matter what happens.
    Yup!!

    I didn't have to work for the pumping letdown so let me know if I'm just being as @ss, but do you have a double pump with the letdown feature? My Medela starts quick with very little suction for 2 minutes. I sometimes repeat that again right away if I'm sore and always repeat it after 10 minutes or so to help with a second letdown. If your pump doesn't have it you can still replicate it by messing with the speed (super fast) and suction (super low). No milk comes out during this part for me but it's essential to get it started.

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    Krystal sorry about the milk supply and nursing issues. I second the oatmeal - it works! My doctor told me to drink a shot glass of dark beer (like Guinness - I hate it!) a day. I don't know if it helps and I can't get myself to do it. Sorry about the lack of letdown when pumping. That sucks!

    Ryan used to do the fussing at the breast before we ditched the bottles. He still sometimes does but now he has forgotten about the bottles and eventually will latch on. what I do is take his paci and pop it in his mouth for half a minute till he calms down. Then pull it out and slip my nipple in quickly. That usually does the trick. It is so frustrating when they fuss for the bottle isn't it.

    You have done amazing breastfeeding so far!! I have to say that amongst a few others (like the constant worry about the well-being of your child and all-day cry-fests) breastfeeding has been the most difficult thing for me about the whole baby experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triplespiral View Post
    Yup!!

    I didn't have to work for the pumping letdown so let me know if I'm just being as @ss, but do you have a double pump with the letdown feature? My Medela starts quick with very little suction for 2 minutes. I sometimes repeat that again right away if I'm sore and always repeat it after 10 minutes or so to help with a second letdown. If your pump doesn't have it you can still replicate it by messing with the speed (super fast) and suction (super low). No milk comes out during this part for me but it's essential to get it started.
    I don't have an electric pump. I use the Medela Harmony (I think that's the name?), it's just a manual. So it's a little tough because when I do get a let down, I really only get a good amount out of one breast because I can only pump one side at a time, so I get about two oz out of one and about one oz out of the other. Not the best, but it's better than nothing! I did rent a hospital grade pump for a while when T was around 6 weeks and I was having some real issues, and even that monster of a pump couldn't get me to let down. I either let down at totally random times (and no, it doesn't happen if I hear a baby cry or think of T... I even took a video of him talking then crying on my phone to try to help with the let down and it didn't do jack) or of course I can get a let down with Trystan.

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    Krystal sorry about the milk supply and nursing issues. I second the oatmeal - it works! My doctor told me to drink a shot glass of dark beer (like Guinness - I hate it!) a day. I don't know if it helps and I can't get myself to do it. Sorry about the lack of letdown when pumping. That sucks!

    Ryan used to do the fussing at the breast before we ditched the bottles. He still sometimes does but now he has forgotten about the bottles and eventually will latch on. what I do is take his paci and pop it in his mouth for half a minute till he calms down. Then pull it out and slip my nipple in quickly. That usually does the trick. It is so frustrating when they fuss for the bottle isn't it.

    You have done amazing breastfeeding so far!! I have to say that amongst a few others (like the constant worry about the well-being of your child and all-day cry-fests) breastfeeding has been the most difficult thing for me about the whole baby experience.
    Thank you! I have been faithful about eating oatmeal every day, and it does seem to be helping keep up my supply. I have also heard that thing about the beer and have thought about giving it a try (and it would just make DH's day if I kept Guinness in the house lol). I so wish that we could ditch the bottles as well, but there's no way with me working full time. I'm just so thankful that he's been able to do both bottles and breast without too many issues. I now find myself fighting with him on my days off to wean him off of the bottles that he was used to for five days in a row... but he's been doing so good! Like I've said before, I'm just biding my time until his first birthday, because then I won't let it stress me out so much. If he continues to BF that's great, but if not I'll know at least he's old enough for vitamin D milk and I won't have to spend money I don't have on formula!!
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