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**Breastfeeding Support Thread**

Welcome to our Breastfeeding Support Thread! This is the place to come if you have any questions, concerns, or anything to say when it comes to breastfeeding! Let the chatting begin!

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Great idea!!! First question Smile Do pacis really affect latch? Elaina's latch has gotten a little funny sometimes, usually right at the start (my letdown us pretty fast). She takes in a lot of air and even though I burp her a lot I worry it's contributing to her gassiness/fussiness. I don't know if it's because of the pacifier though but it seems to have gotten worse now that we are using it more. But a paci is sometimes is the only thing that calms her so I don't want to give it up but I don't want her latch to be forever ruined either.

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Hilary - it never affected my DS but I do wonder if it affects Kara.

I think this will be a very useful thread. I was lurking on the BFing board last night but didn't have time to post.

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Yes, I think this thread will be helpful!
I am 6 weeks out now and BFing is going very well, as in I know Allyson is nursing well and getting plenty of milk, heck she weighs like 12 lbs and is a total chunk, lol. But a few weeks ago she started making a smacking/clicking sound everytime she sucks- anyone else's LO do this? I have thought maybe she is a little tongue tied (Austin was) and her latch is slipping off a little every time...but then again, she didn't always do this - it only started when she was a couple weeks old. Or maybe she's just a noisy eater?

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Kara has started to get it a little more but still doesn't nurse effectively. I'm pumping all the time...I've started stretching it out to 5 hours apart though just to give my nips a break. If this continues I will definitely be stopping when I go back to work. It almost seems more stressful than anything. When I pump I get at least 10oz in a session, but yesterday I pumped 15.5 oz in one session :eek: I usually pump, give her 3 oz in a bottle - which she never really finishes all in one sitting - and then freeze the rest and store some in the fridge for the nights. I'm freezing 20-25 oz a day and have like 350+ oz in the freezer - she isn't even 3 weeks yet! I think if/when I stop pumping and BFing I will feel so guilty but at the same time I may get some sanity back.

With DS I was able to pump a lot too but nothing like this! I literally can't leave the house without taking my pump or rushing home after 4-5 hours to pump. if I NIP I still have to pump because when my bbs fill up its really painful.

I wish she would just nurse and empty at least one side each time! I keep thinking about Angie's post how it took Luke 4 weeks (I think that is right) before he got the hang of it so I am hoping Kara will too.

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Great idea!

Hilary Ryan has had a paci from day one (they gave it to him in the NICU without asking me). I can't say it has not affected his latch because we have had so many problems, but I don't know for sure. His latch has got better over time so I am not sure it made a difference. Also, he seems to be liking the paci less and less.

Jenn, I cannot believe how much you can pump! I get about 6 ounces in a session but that is only at night and when I haven't nursed for one feeding. Wow! Unless you're trying to build a stash I would decrease the pumping a little because otherwise you will always have to deal with this oversupply and it sucks having to pump all the time so that your boobs don't explode Sad

We are still having issues - I have no clue if they are only feeding related or what. Ryan now fusses during every feed - bottle or not. He eats fine for about 10 minutes, then briefly falls asleep, and wakes up screaming. He wants to eat again (roots for the nipple and sucks briefly) but then pulls off, screaming, arching his back, and squirms like crazy. Sometimes this results in a poop or passing gas and it gets a little better, but not always. I burp him all the time but he doesn't always burp. I try keeping him upright etc in case of reflux but no luck.

He was up all of last night squirming, screaming and fussing. I got no sleep at all. He is finally sleeping now in my wrap but that is the only way he will quiet down. He also wants to eat ALL THE TIME. Like every 20 minutes for just a few minutes. I am thinking growth spurt, but since he seems to be in pain while eating I am going to the doctors in an hour to get things checked out. Maybe silent reflux? He doesn't spit up much. I am so tired of this and need to get to the bottom of it.

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Elle - the way you describe Ryan's nursing is exactly like Kara. Its so frustrating! And she fusses all night like she wants something but nothing makes her happy. Last night I may have gotten an hour of sleep!?

I recently started turning the pump off when I get 4 oz off each side. That has seemed to help. The bottles I pump into are 4 oz bottles so it was easy to just stop there and not switch out the bottles every time. Its also helped me not get so engorged. So you think I should spread out the pumping to like 6 hours if I can? When my milk comes in the horns (and Kara too) can barely stay on because I am so huge...its really crazy.

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Hugs to you Elle and Jenn! Hope you guys can work out the nursing issues with your LOs.

I am so ready for my supply to even out but Allyson eats so randomly that I'm sure my bbs are going "what the heck!" Half the time she wants to eat every hour and then she takes a long nap and I'm engorged again. Then at night bc I only nurse on one side at at time, if she sleeps a good stretch I wake up with a rock hard bb (like last night) and I have to pump some of it off bc there's no way she can latch onto that. Not to mention it HURTS! Oh well..just wanted to vent. Smile

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Kim, it's rough in the beginning no matter what it seems. I hate that full feeling you are talking about. I hope it all levels out for you soon.

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Hilary, I used a paci on all of my babies (not that I'm counting my first three, as I never BF them this long) but Trystan uses a paci sometimes and I haven't noticed a difference in his latch... and I've been putting a paci in his mouth since the first week lol!

Kim, like you said, she might just be a noisy eater. But, when Trystan does this sometimes, he's still hungry but has gas, so I'll pick him up, burp him, and he'll go right back to eating with no noise!

Jen, that's fantasitic on the pumping! Is Kara just not latching on? Are you bottle feeding her? If so, what type of bottles are you using?

Elle, this sounds like it could be a growth spurt. Is he latching on properly? If not it could be giving him gas as the improper latch causes more air to be gulped along with your BM. Or maybe he has a lactose intolorance? Maybe try cutting the dairy out of your diet? If it is just gas and he doesn't burp, try laying him back for a few seconds then quickly lifting him right back up, that can also help release any burps he may have.

Trystan is doing wonderfully with BF! I was certainly having some problems with BF a few weeks ago, as when I would pump here at work I was lucky to get 1oz TOTAL! I was getting so upset because my breasts were full so I know there was milk in there. After renting an electric pump and talking with a LC, I finally figured out that I wasn't getting a let down when I pumped, no matter if I was using the manual or the electric one. So at home, I started pumping (electric) while I was feeding him, since I always got a let down with him, and all of a sudden I was getting 3 oz out of just one side at one time (that's a lot for me lol)!! At work, instead of going and pumping every two hours and getting hardly anything out, I wait until I feel a let down, grab my pump, race to the restroom, and then I'm able to get about 3oz out that way! Just enough for DH or my mom to give to him the next day while I'm at work. And thanks to the electric pump (which I've now returned because I don't need it anymore) I was able to store up about 20oz in the freezer! I'm also taking fenugreek, I'm not sure if it's helped at all, but it makes me feel better taking it anyhow lol! I'm going to ask that someone sticky our little thread here, I'm so glad we're doing this!

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Wow, Kim, 12lbs at 6-weeks seems so big to me!! Jonah is 7-weeks & is 9.5lbs! He was 5lb 14oz when we took him home from the hospital though and he's still my little peanut!!

And Jen, I am shocked that you can pump so much!!

I'm glad pumping is better for you Krystal. I had the exact problems with DS when I went back to work. And once someone told me to pump while feeding, it got much better!

BD is awesome now that we are past all the tongue tied issues. It was 4-weeks of pain and then 1-week of re-learning. Now I can feed him anywhere and we can get a great latch! I even fed him in a pizza place today just fine! I pump every morning to have a bottle ready for DH in case I need a boob break in the evenings. If I don't use it, I freeze it. Once I am closer to returning to work I will pump more for a stash. I have about 40oz in the freezer now, but I don't have a deep freezer & I can't store it for more than 3-months.

One issue we have is with the bottle. Jonah gets a bottle at least every other day. But in the past few days I have noticed he only takes an ounce from the bottle (breast milk) from me or DH. He doesn't fuss or anything he just plays with the nipple and eats enough to take the edge off. It's like he knows he will get a breast eventually and just waits for that. I'm afraid he's not liking the bottle any more. It's not a problem now, but when I return to work in April it will be! Should I try different bottles?

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Amy, I would definitely try a different bottle. What kind are you using now? Trystan drinks from a bottle when I'm at work and he's with DH or my mom. I use Tommee Tippee bottles, and they're wonderful! Not only does he not have any problems with them, but it hasn't affected his latch or caused any nipple confusion, either! And in regards to the freezing of BM, I thought you could freeze it for up to five months?

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nak omg jenn! I wish I could get that much milk when I pump. Everymorning i am lucky if i get 2 oz from one side while emily eats the other. I really need to start pumping the other side more during the day so i can produce enough for when I pump at work. I am just lazy now...but bm is free and good for baby so i want to avoid formula if i can especially sice the similac that i have so many free samples of seems to bind emily up.

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Angela, with the formula it also makes them spit up way more when you burp them! Trystan never spits up, unlike my first three formula-fed babies that spewed everywhere when I burped them! On the pumping issue, when T is eating on one side I get about three oz out on the other. It's weird that I really don't pump very much, but he's getting plenty to eat? I know some of you that can pump TONS out all of the time! Jealous!!

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Rory was 12lb 12oz at 1 month old.....he's such a big baby. He has a great latch nursing isn't painful at all but he eats all the time still. I pump once a day in the morning and I was getting 4-6oz but lately I've been waking up engorged and getting 8-10oz. I have close to 200oz in the freezer - we have a chest freezer so I just keep stocking it away. I definitely can't go anywhere for any extended period of time w/o my pump which is annoying. I haven't had a clogged duct in a few weeks though so I think I'm past that point, phew!

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I can't believe Luke is older than most of the other babies and he is smaller! lol. I weighed him this morning on the wii and he was up to 10 lbs 8 ounces. He is getting there. I think he is going to be tall.

Nursing is going great for us now. Thank goodness. I honestly thought he wasn't going to be able to do it. He gets a paci and now that he has learned to latch it doesn't seem to be a problem. My other two had paci's from the start and it never caused problems.

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Evelyn couldn't care less about the paci. I sometimes try to give it to her when she's been fed and I know she just wants to suck. She scrunches up her face and spits it right out.

I am only able to pump about 2-3oz, but I have only been pumping once a day. I need to add in a few more sessions so I can build up a stash.

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Carrie, you sound like me. When I'm at work is the only time I pump, and I get about three oz out total when I get a let down. Its ok though, two of those bottles is enough for him to have the next day while I'm at work again!

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I'm wondering how much I'm going to have to send with Rory. It's so hard b/c I obviously don't want to send too much, defrosted milk is really only good for a day but I don't want to send too little either! ACK! When I go back to work he gets dropped off at daycare around 7:30 and will have eaten around 7, so I'm thinking 4 bottles around 3-4oz each.....I'm going to send him on a couple test run days prior to me being at work so I'll be close if they need something.

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Ok, I finally have a chance to get back on here. Things have taken a turn for the worse with BFing... We had a lousy day last week where I tried to exclusively breastfeed and it ended up in an all-day crying fest. Sometime around the same time (days blend together) Ryan also started crying about half way through a feed. He eats for about 10 minutes and then briefly falls asleep. I weighed him before and after and he gets about 2.5-3 ounces in that time. after a few minutes he wakes up, and starts squirming and grunting. He roots for the nipple but after a few seconds on he will do these high pitched screams and come off. This continues for a while. If I take him off I can distract him quite easily and play with him for a bit, and he seems somewhat happy. But at the end of playtime (maybe 20 minutes tops, sometimes just a few minutes) he wants to eat again. Then the same screaming starts. To me it seems like he is in pain but I don't know.
I took him to the doctor on Monday. She thinks he might have silent reflux and has put him on Zantac. I hate giving it to him but it's worth a try I guess. he's on day 3 and no improvement so far... The other possibility she mentioned was a milk protein allergy. Eliminating all dairy from my diet will be the next thing to try, but its almost impossible. There is so much hidden dairy in everything it's ridiculous. Jessicah I recall your DS had that issue - have things improved with him on formula?

I am still not sure if this is a generally cranky phase and a habit or if he is in pain. He seems in pain with the grunting, high pitched screams and squeals, and he also arches his back like crazy (apparently a sign of reflux). On the other hand when I pick him up and distract him he stops crying quite quickly. I don't know... getting to the end of my rope. But for about the last week or so he's been overall grumpy, very quick to cry, and fussy. He still sleeps ok but even in his sleep he will often grunt, squeal and chatter almost the whole time. I am not sure if he is sleeping or what, but his eyes are closed so I assume he is. He's always been a loud sleeper but this tops it. Of course I get absolutely no sleep at all. I am considering putting him in a separate room and I really wanted him to stay in our room for a few months, but I am getting no sleep.

I truly hope this is just the 6 week growth spurt. I really miss my happy little guy!

ETA: He does the same on the bottle, but he can drink faster from it so the feeding is normally done before he gets upset. But he gets upset right after.

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When we saw the pediatrician at one month he told us to expect random crying to ramp up starting at about 6 weeks and peaking at two months, then dropping off by three months. So maybe Ryan is just having some regular old baby colic? My son is also frustrated by a slow flow at the breast. He eats well at first then starts popping off and eventually I have to just give him a bottle of pumped milk because at that point his sister is crying and I need things to hurry along. I'm not talented enough to massage the boob for faster flow while breastfeeding, but are you able to? For right now anyway I have given up entirely with my daughter. She gets pumped milk only. She's still tiny tiny (about 7.5 lbs) and I just want her to eat without screaming matches. I'm amazed by how much milk some of you are able to get, even accidentally. I can only feed about 1.5 babies (so there's formula, too) and I've been working at it.

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"kmm123" wrote:

I'm wondering how much I'm going to have to send with Rory ... so I'm thinking 4 bottles around 3-4oz each.

Maybe more? Mine use bottles mostly and a typical feed is 4-5 oz every 3 hours.

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"triplespiral" wrote:

When we saw the pediatrician at one month he told us to expect random crying to ramp up starting at about 6 weeks and peaking at two months, then dropping off by three months. So maybe Ryan is just having some regular old baby colic? My son is also frustrated by a slow flow at the breast. He eats well at first then starts popping off and eventually I have to just give him a bottle of pumped milk because at that point his sister is crying and I need things to hurry along. I'm not talented enough to massage the boob for faster flow while breastfeeding, but are you able to? For right now anyway I have given up entirely with my daughter. She gets pumped milk only. She's still tiny tiny (about 7.5 lbs) and I just want her to eat without screaming matches. I'm amazed by how much milk some of you are able to get, even accidentally. I can only feed about 1.5 babies (so there's formula, too) and I've been working at it.

Yeah, I was wondering about general colic/crankiness. I hope it passes soon whatever it is. I do massage the boob and more comes out but then he chokes so I don't think it's coming too slow. His fussiness generally starts the second I hear his intestines starting to work, gargling and making sounds. Very frustrating. I don't know how you do it with 2 babies. One is almost more than I can handle it seems.

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I'm wondering how much I'm going to have to send with Rory. It's so hard b/c I obviously don't want to send too much, defrosted milk is really only good for a day but I don't want to send too little either! ACK! When I go back to work he gets dropped off at daycare around 7:30 and will have eaten around 7, so I'm thinking 4 bottles around 3-4oz each.....I'm going to send him on a couple test run days prior to me being at work so I'll be close if they need something.

Ryan sometimes eats about 4 oz every 2-3 hrs, and sometimes only 2.5. The test runs would be good, send lots and then he doesn't run out at least. I know you hate to waste the milk.

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Ya the couple times I've left him so far he's only been willing to take 2oz from DH. Evan never took more than 4oz from the bottle and always ate way less when bottle fed then caught up when I was back but he strongly preferred breast to bottle, never had a problem taking bottles but dragged out feedings and waited for me. So I have no idea what Rory will do. I will probably send extra and if I have to toss some initially life will go on. I will have 200oz frozen tomorrow so I can spare some luckily.

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Trystan is eating about 4oz every three hours now. I'm amazing also at how much some of you are able to pump! I'm just so happy that even thought I don't get much out that way, he is satisfied bf! I can't tell you girls how happy I am about the fact that I hit the two month mark! All of you ladies are doing an amazing job as well!

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I don't know if this will be helpful to anyone, but I thought I'd post it just in case!

http://www.llli.org/faq/oversupply.html

This link really helped me to figure out our major BFing issue. Noah was having such a hard time when we would nurse, choking/gagging/fussing/etc., especially during let down, plus green poop and frequent dirty diapers (like seriously 20 or so poops a day!). I was afraid it was a milk allergy thing, but by following the techniques suggested for oversupply in that link things seem to have straightened themselves out. He is back to yellow poop and not having as much of an issue during let down.

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Katie, would your daycare keep a little BM in the freezer there just in case? I worked in a daycare before that did that, but maybe not all would be willing to mess around with it. Might be worth checking on though, because then you might not have to waste as much sending extra?

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I was thinking about asking them - I'm really not sure. They are pretty flexible but I don't know how they'd feel about defrosting etc. Worth asking at least. I really need to leave Rory occasionally with DH and see what he's eating. I just don't have anywhere to go LOL

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Katie, take a little "girl time" and go get your hair done, or go get a mani/pedi! He's probably eating around what Trystan is, between 3-4 oz!

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Well, I have come to the conclusion (for now) that Ryan simply prefers the bottle and we are dealing with a case of nipple confusion. He always eats for 10 minutes and then wants the bottle. I am now trying to take away the bottle entirely... it is very stressful. I weigh him and he gets about 1.5-2 ounces at each feed in the 10 minutes he does nurse. He still licks his lips and shows signs of being hungry after, and sometimes he cries. He is generally cranky and in a bad mood from all this.

We've been trying to supplement with a syringe (instead of the bottle) but it's not going so well... he tries to suck it and chokes, and often spits up a little after. I am nervous about the whole thing, but I really want to get rid of the bottles as I am worried about my milk supply (it seems to be dropping) and him eventually totally refusing the breast. I am setting up an appointment with a lactation consultant this week for advice.

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"Starryblue702" wrote:

Katie, take a little "girl time" and go get your hair done, or go get a mani/pedi! He's probably eating around what Trystan is, between 3-4 oz!

I agree...when Allyson takes a bottle of BM, it's usually around 3.5 oz and she seems satisfied.

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Well, I have come to the conclusion (for now) that Ryan simply prefers the bottle and we are dealing with a case of nipple confusion. He always eats for 10 minutes and then wants the bottle. I am now trying to take away the bottle entirely... it is very stressful. I weigh him and he gets about 1.5-2 ounces at each feed in the 10 minutes he does nurse. He still licks his lips and shows signs of being hungry after, and sometimes he cries. He is generally cranky and in a bad mood from all this.

We've been trying to supplement with a syringe (instead of the bottle) but it's not going so well... he tries to suck it and chokes, and often spits up a little after. I am nervous about the whole thing, but I really want to get rid of the bottles as I am worried about my milk supply (it seems to be dropping) and him eventually totally refusing the breast. I am setting up an appointment with a lactation consultant this week for advice.

Elle, bless you....I just wanted to say how much I admire you for sticking with BF after all the trouble you've had. ((HUGS))

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Elle, I'm glad that you're going to see a LC! She'll be able to give you some great advice on things! I too am very proud of you for sticking with BF for so long through all of your troubles! In the end it's what's best for your LO! KUP on how the consultation with the LC goes!

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Good luck with the LC Elle. I hope she can give you some good help, you are doing such a great job to stick with it like you are. It sounds so hard. Way to go for persevering!!!!!!!

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Thanks ladies, my morale is coming to an all time low. The last 24 hrs have been tough. Ryan ate for 10 minutes every 1.5 - 2 hrs all night, and this morning he's been snacking the entire time with 20 minute breaks in between. Since I want him to get on the boob more I am letting him... sigh. I am exhausted. Thankfully DH is on board to help. I have an appointment tomorrow with an LC - let's see what she says. We are also continuing the zantac with an increased does just in case. I wish he would just eat!

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Well, back to the doctor after a bloody diaper... I feel horrible about this.

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Oh I'm so sorry it's so hard for you! Sad I hope you can figure it out!

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We got Sent to the Pediatric unit at the hospital for further testing. They are checking to make sure there is no infection, and to rule out other issues. Ryan has to stay for a few days and there's a cot for me to sleep on. They suspect a food allergy, likely dairy. I am meeting with a nutritionist tomorrow to discuss diet changes. I am glad I already started eliminating dairy. In the meantime he is on nutramigen formula and I am pumping to keep up the supply. If it's a food allergy they say I can try to breastfeed again 2 weeks after cutting out the item from my diet.

This makes me so sad... Breastfeeding hasn't been easy but I already miss that special time with my baby. and I am terrified he will reject nursing once I try again.

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Oh no Sad I am so so so sorry to hear you are in the hospital now, how awful!! Though I am glad they're looking into it so closely. I hope it turns out to be something manageable and you can get back to BFing. I would be heartbroken if I had to stop. Take care and keep us posted!!

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Elle, I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope it's *just* an allergy and can be resolved quickly.

Katie, I used to work at a licenced daycare center and breastmilk had to come ready to go in the bottles. We could warm it in a cup of water of course, but couldn't be defrosting, pouring into bottles, general "handling" of the breastmilk since it's a bodily fluid. So definitely ask what their policy is before sending frozen bags. Biggrin

What are you all wearing as far as bras and nursing tanks? I just wear nursing tanks...but, if I'm out of the house, it's not really enough support. Do you were a nursing bra, and THEN a nursing tank?! I only have 1 nursing bra and I hate it.

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Ashley - I'm almost certain you are right - they can warm it up and feed it no problem but they can't be responsible for handling of it - defrosting etc. If I used an at home place it might be different but we use the facility at the Y and they are very VERY strict about following the letter of the law (which I like)

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Elle- any word yet on the tests? I'm so sorry you have to be in the hospital.

Ashley- I wear a nursing tank around the house and if i go out I wear the same under a loose fitting shirt or if I am wearing something form fitting I do a nursing bra underneath the tank. When i go back to work i will wear a nursing bra for pumping and regular clothes.

I have ben keeping up with this thread but it is so hard to type 1 handed because i am always nak

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I have one really pricey Bravado underwire bra and I'm just starting to be able to wear it w/o it giving me a clogged duct. I'll wear that at work when I go back until I shrink to the point where it is too big. I think around 4-5 months PP I went back to my normal D cup. Right now I'm still way big. When I go back I think I'll buy the same Bravado bra in a smaller size. It's pricey but is more comfortable than the cheaper Motherhood ones I have. Around the house and casual outings I wear a nursing tank (Bravado or Glamour Mom that I bought off deal of the day sites while prego). Not the hottest look, I look kind of shelf-boob-ish but it's comfortable enough and easier to NIP if I need to. I'm not a big fan of covers so the tank under a shirt with a burp cloth works well enough.

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So Trystan slept for 6 hours straight last night, from 11PM to 5AM, for the first time! I woke up right before he did and looked at the clock, and it scared me a little bit because he's never done that before, but then he started to grunt a little lol. Last night was very hard though, as no matter how much I fed him he was still hungry. It finally got to a point around 8PM that I actually had to give him a bottle of BM that he was meant to have today while I was at work, because after three feedings in one hour there was nothing else coming out of my breasts. It was the very first time I had ever given him a bottle myself, and I didn't like it very much, but he was so hungry. He ate 2oz out of the bottle before finally dozing off to sleep (then waking again around 10PM to eat AGAIN, but thankfully I had more milk by then). Has that ever happened to any of you? Have you ever been "sucked dry" by your baby and they still want more? Is it just a growth spurt?

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We are going back home :-). Ryan has been on nutramigen since monday night and he is eating way better and stopped crying during feeds!! His gassines and straining and grunting has stopped altogether. So the ped is pretty sure it is a milk protein/soy intolerance. He said most kids outgrow it by one year. I am on a completely dairy and soy free diet for now and in 10 days I can introduce one breastfeed a day and see how it goes. I really hope I can breastfeed again, I am pumping to keep the supply up. The ped said he has seen good results with this scenario and that we caught it early. Fingers crossed!!

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Elle, I'm glad that Ryan is doing so much better, and here's hoping that your supply stays right where it should!

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krystal- we had a few days where emily was like that. I'll nurse both sides for an hr each and then give up and give her some formula

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what a relief Elle! What can you eat??? i eat so much dairy i couldn't imagine going dairy free.

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"JuneorJulyBaby?" wrote:

what a relief Elle! What can you eat??? i eat so much dairy i couldn't imagine going dairy free.

I do too... I just cut out all the obvious things (milk, yoghurt, cheese, etc) and I have a huge list of "hidden" dairy. Almost all processed food has dairy or soy, so I am eating mostly unprocessed items. I was doing a lot of that anyways, but it's hard. I might start baking my own bread again. I live in canada and get 1 year of mat leave - if that was not the case I don't think I could do it, because it takes time to make all your own food and eat nothing processed. Between dairy and soy, the list is slim. All veggies, meats, grains, potatoes, rice, for sweets I eat raisins for now, almonds etc. The problem is, I tend to be on the thin side anyways so I have a hard time keeping the weight on. To make myself feel better I drank 2 glasses of wine tonight and dumped what I pumped after (I have to anyways but I a storing to potentially donate).

I am going to a natural foods super market tomorrow and they have TONS of food for people with special dietary needs. I just feel like I've come this far I don't want to give up now. There is a decent chance it will work - I get to try nursing again in 10 days to allow the offending proteins to leave my system and for Ryan's intestine to heal. I SO hope it works!! I miss nursing horribly and whenever I carry Ryan and he roots for my breast it makes me want to cry. But he is a lot happier on the formula for now - he eats well and no crying during or after feeds. Now I just have to make sure I pump enough to keep the supply up.

Thanks to all of you for the support... I really appreciate it!

ETA: I am SO glad we are home! Ryan was a real ham with the nurses on the ped ward and loved all the attention, but I almost died when they had to take his blood and had a hard time and he screamed and screamed. I think I cried at least as much as him.

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"Starryblue702" wrote:

So Trystan slept for 6 hours straight last night, from 11PM to 5AM, for the first time! I woke up right before he did and looked at the clock, and it scared me a little bit because he's never done that before, but then he started to grunt a little lol. Last night was very hard though, as no matter how much I fed him he was still hungry. It finally got to a point around 8PM that I actually had to give him a bottle of BM that he was meant to have today while I was at work, because after three feedings in one hour there was nothing else coming out of my breasts. It was the very first time I had ever given him a bottle myself, and I didn't like it very much, but he was so hungry. He ate 2oz out of the bottle before finally dozing off to sleep (then waking again around 10PM to eat AGAIN, but thankfully I had more milk by then). Has that ever happened to any of you? Have you ever been "sucked dry" by your baby and they still want more? Is it just a growth spurt?

Sounds like you have a cluster feeder on your hands :-). Could be a growth spurt too... who knows. My friends' baby did this routinely but the "reward" is he pretty well slept through the night. I don't know what your daily supply is like but I always make least milk in the evening and most over night, so that would suck. I hope T doesn't keep doing that and that it's just a growth spurt!

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