I don't know if I can keep this up. Aly has started screaming a lot during BFing sessions. I change her diaper first, then she eats for a few minutes really well, then pops off and screams...searching for the nipple when it's right in front of her. If I try to hand express on the side she's nursing from, the milk is right there, so it's not like it's "empty" or something. I pick her up, burp her and try again,....same thing. I might get a few good minutes, but not usually. If I switch sides, then it's hit or miss...sometimes she'll latch on for a few minutes and sometimes just scream. I can stop and change her diaper mid-feeding too, but she still just screams. I don't *think* she's done after that initial few minutes either. *sigh*
We've been trying to use the nipple shield less and less, which probably doesn't help, but she's doing it WITH the shield as well. We both get so frustrated. I'm wondering if she's starting to prefer the bottle, but she's such a snugglebunny and will head straight to the boobs and try to latch on if given the opportunity. I know all kids are different, but my only experience is with my son. By this age he had ZERO interest in BFing and screamed like this, but wouldn't even bother latching and certainly didn't go searching for boobie and latch on all on his own.
When we bottle feed pumped EBM, we have no frustration on her part (just some on my part as I watch her squirt lots of it right out the corners of her mouth....my hard work soaking straight into the bib & burp cloth instead of into her....she's a messy eater both BFing and bottle feeding). She otherwise rarely cries for no apparent reason. She normally only cries for wet/dirty diapers, hungry or really gassy.
I keep trying, but am getting close to throwing in the proverbial towel and going back to pumping exclusively since that I know I can do with success and she will still get that mommy milk I want her to have. It's just more work...although, easier on the aching nipples!!! And I can be done pumping in 20 minutes, where a BFing session takes forever.
Hooch--yours is the first thing I read, so sorry if I repeat something that has been mentioned before!
I had to use the nipple shield with my first (G). He used the shield until he was 6 months old, the one day, poof, he latched on not a problem! With Ky, I am using the shield all the time too. I think it helps with the transition from boobie to bottle....KWIM.
My first thought was that maybe baby is frustrated, like milk is coming out 1) to fast or 2) not fast enough. Perhaps too, you are getting frustrated, and causing the let down to be slower...kwim. Speaking from experience....this has been my problems. After he has latched on, I try and take a sigh and deep breathe, and it helps with my let down. DO you feel your milk come down when baby latches? Hang in there sweetie! No one said breastfeeding was easy! I personally have a love/hate relationship with it!!
I don't think I've ever felt the letting down. What does it feel like? (I know she's getting plenty, just never felt it)
Do you feel your milk come in? Like right now (6.5 weeks) I can feel it come in, kind of hurts, but not like terribly painful. My boobs also get like HUGE or hard....though, that has just started happening more recently. I honestly don't remember this with G....though, it could just be something I blocked out, I vaguely remember it, then it getting better as my milk supply evened more out. The pain itself, I don't know, it really is not pain, but I can't think of how to describe it. But it only lasts like 5 or 10 sec or something. I get it even when not feeding, like around the time he should be feeding again. Is that clear as mud??!!
Also, I am sure that it has been mentioned, but just in case it hasn't. OATMEAL is an excellent supply booster! Even oatmeal cookies! I have to limit myself to one cause I can actually get an over supply with it.
I feel a "twinge" feeling when it's feeding time, maybe that's it? And I feel the same twinge right after she starts to nurse.
Yup, that sounds like your letdown. Mine kinda hurts right now, but I only feel it when he has to nurse, not while nursing. He's gaining plenty of weight though, so I'm not worried.
Hooch, Hunter does the crying at the boob thing too sometimes, usually when he's been sleeping longer than usual and is really hungry. Have you tried waking Alyssa up to feed her? I've only done this a couple times, but it really cut down on frustration while feeding.
Twinge....that is a good word for it!
I would not wake to feed her.......NEVER WAKE A SLEEPING BABY!!! :) Just personal experience there. Maybe feed at the first signs of hunger though, instead of when I AM HUNGRY NOW FEED ME......
This may sound strange....but maybe you have an easier let down at the sound of your pump......perhaps try turning it on while your nursing in the beginning, to help with the letdown. Perhaps baby is just getting frustrated at not having anything, then gives up trying......Like I trained myself to relax watching TV rather than a picture with G when I was pumping at work. Picture did nothing for me, I could not let down at all, I started watching TV and I could zone out, much like I did while actually feeding, and I let down a lot faster. Perhaps you have trained yourself to letdown at the sound of a pump....worth a shot before throwing in the towel at least.
Reality is, breastmilk is best no matter if it comes from you or from a bottle! You'll get this figured out mama!! :bighug:
Hooch, first of all, you're doing it so try not to stress yourself out too much. Aly is BFing, she's growing, she's healthy. Ultimately that's the stuff that matters the most. BFing really is a learning curve. It could be a growth spurt....we just went through one and Karah did pretty much exactly what you're describing. I started stressing thinking that she was going to give up BFing or that there was no milk there. There was plenty of milk, she was just fussing and latching/relatching and crying in an attempt to up my milk supply. Just like Jade's little Elsabunny she's been quite successful at upping my supply! ouch! :)
Try to stick with it for a bit longer. You might find that she sorts things out. They say the first two months are the worst and after that things get easier....it's very true! If it seems easier with the nipple shield, try using that until she stops fussing for a few days/weeks. PP is right, relaxing will help feeding go more smoothly. I would also recommend giving less bottles so that she has an easier time figuring out the BFing for right now. GL. Keep coming here for support, that's what we're here for.
That's a perfect description of letdown :)
Originally Posted by goldilockz
I agree Hooch that she could be going through a growth spurt or just isn't quite as hungry as she could be, so Aly might just be playing around, you know? The booby also is a bit slower than a bottle, so she might just frustrate easier because it is more work for her to get the milk. I also agree with Eilidth in that you should probably try giving less bottles. It may be thwarting your efforts a bit in getting her to latch and stay there.
As for the bfing taking longer, *right now* you are right, it does. But in a few months, that will change. She will only feed for about 5 mins and get all that she needs. They become super efficient, much more than the pump will ever be. So while you are still going to be pumping for 20 mins, then cleaning all of the parts, putting the milk away, etc....in a few months, she will just pop on and off in a total of 5 mins per breast and be done with it all.