May 08 - Buckeyemum/Raven (EVERYONE PLEASE READ)

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May 08 - Buckeyemum/Raven (EVERYONE PLEASE READ)

It has been brought to my attention that the woman posting as Raven (buckeyemum) is in fact not Raven. It was a woman living in Raven's home, pretending to be her. Here is a private message I received from her via Facebook:

"Some recent events in my home have made me take a closer look at my Facebook and friends that have been added to it.

I am not a member of pregnancy.org nor have I ever been. It was someone posing as me that we had taken into our home out of the kindness of our hearts. She has been using my emails (and forwarding them to hers) and other accounts. I am changing all my passwords and taking a closer look at things. I am sorry, but I am going to delete you as a friend seeing as you were linked to her through pg.org.

I am sorry for the inconvience and it is being taken care of at this time. I guess I was just too trusting.

Sincerely-
Raven C. Mathis"

We have exchanged a few other private messages, and admin has been contacted regarding this issue, so I assume her account will be deleted soon. If anyone has links to Raven's blog in your own, please remove the link.

It really makes you think about who you can trust...

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I was just coming on to post the exact same thing! This is crazy. I can't believe someone would go through all that trouble. I had actually asked her to help design my wedding invitations. I'm so glad I haven't gotten around to sending her all the details!

ETA - Maybe it's already been done but it might be a good idea to post this on any other boards she belonged to on here.

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Oh get out! What a lot of trouble to go through just for some attention. It's just so hard to believe anyone would do that, I hope it's not true...
Betrayal on the Mayboard!

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OK, I'm trying to find an emoticon to express what I'm thinking but I'm absolutely baffled and in shock at this.

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Jenny, how's this: :eek:

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I just got it too - i was sitting here trying to figure out whether to post it or not. So freaking strange.

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Yikes! Poor Raven!!!

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"ducknjay" wrote:

Yikes! Poor Raven!!!

I know, I feel so bad for her! She has tons of images on here of her family without her consent. I hope Admin deletes it all.

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Hmmm, there has been alot of talk about Raven on other sites. All I can say is either this is true, and someone has been using Raven's identity, or Raven has caught on to what's being said about her and she is now crapping her pants. Based on what I've heard, I think it's the latter. Sorry guys Sad

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"Sandra Lee" wrote:

Hmmm, there has been alot of talk about Raven on other sites. All I can say is either this is true, and someone has been using raven's identity, or Raven has caught on to what's being said about her and she is now crapping her pants. Based on what I've heard, I think it's the latter. Sorry guys Sad

What is being said about her? Just curious, since I haven't heard anything.

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I am so, so confused. WTH is going on?!?!

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"Sandra Lee" wrote:

Hmmm, there has been alot of talk about Raven on other sites. All I can say is either this is true, and someone has been using Raven's identity, or Raven has caught on to what's being said about her and she is now crapping her pants. Based on what I've heard, I think it's the latter. Sorry guys Sad

What's the talk on other sites???

If this is true, this is so hand that rocks the cradle-esque!!!

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** lurker **

I have to say, I think it's because she's discovered the trashy posts about her too. I've read them. If it were me, I'd back off too .. but maybe she's handling it a different way. *shrugs*

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Okay, on the note of weirdness... I just got this PM today from a lurker and I totally dont know what to make of it:

MumsThe Word

Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2008
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Just thought you have a right to know...


http://*******************/ftopic186-0-asc-125.php

you may need to sign up to see the link, but this is something you need to see, it is your bb bashing you!

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That;s exactly how it appeared (with the ***) to me, and it looked weird. The link doesnt go anywhere nor does it have a traceable domain because of all of the *****.
I tried to PM the sender back, but I got the following message:

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The following errors occurred with your submission:

MumsThe Word has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

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So does that seem just way fishy to anyone else?

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...very fishy!

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I post in June but you guys have seen me here from time to time since I had a May baby....

I just want to agree that if you read on another website a lot of mean hateful things about you.. you would probably want to claim someone else stole your identity as well. She may have just been embarrased and it was the only way she could think of to "clear her name".

Just my opinion...could be wrong....

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I really don't want to say anymore. It's probably a good thing that she is no longer here.

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Yeah I find it really REALLY hard to believe. I'll leave it at that.

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Anybody want to PM me a link to what's been going on?

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I got the same message on Facebook from Raven (the real Raven?) This is all so sad and confusing.

What is this other site people are talking about?

Regardless I liked Raven and still trying to wrap my mind around the whole thing. I mean she was posting here, she had several blogs , facebook.... strange...

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So if there was a little bit of trash talking, why not just own up to it and apologize? How bad could the things that were said could have been that you'd want to delete your internet existence? And wouldn't a public announcement to pg.org make more sense than to pm someone via facebook? I didn't get the fb message so I'm just baffled....

ETA: She added me as a facebook friend a while back and I never got a facebook notice email. I emailed her directly about "what happened". Gosh, you'd think that with the internet when you have a face to put a profile to and there's several pictures you're talking to who you say you're talking to but I don't even know what to believe now.

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Ummm...I'm really confused... :huh:

So people on other boards are spewing hatred towards the real Raven or the fake?? I don't get it...

And Lori, that is the strangest PM I've ever seen! All of this is VERY odd!!!

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Where are the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew when you need them?!?!

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I'm finding it all very odd too....I had no idea about the bashing either. I mean she signed up for both the mascot and the secret santa, so if she was an imposter how on earth was she going to get away with that? She would've known that we'd expect to see photos of Vaughn with the mascot. Hmmm fishy....
Snuffy if anyone PM's you the link to all the goings-on please forward it to me as well. I'm curious about all of it.

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Trashy posts here on Preg.org. ??? i've not seen or heard of any bashing. I now there is someone on the LDS board she does not see eye to eye with but they kept it "friendly" for the most part.

Missy??? Someone in Preg.org ownership land... can you enlighten us. I talked with the real "Raven" today via facebook quite extensively and she said that she sat right by this person as she typed an apology to the owners of Preg.org.

I think as women who were emotionaly invested with this "Raven" we should be privileged to see this apology to have some closure.

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Yeah, though I'd believe she may have stirred up some drama, I'm not finding any recent drama anywhere on pg.org... I even got my husband to let me lift the no-pg.org-after-9-am rules so I could investigate.

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I am COMPLETELY confused. I don't post much but I lurk all day. Does that mean the person that made my siggy was not Raven? Some random person did the pic that I have no idea who it is? I took it down, I'm am completely weirded out.

Mandy

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ITA, Darby. I really enjoyed "Raven's" company on this board. I think we deserve some sort of explanation... :confused:

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The trash talk about her was not on pg.org.. it was on another website. That's all Im gonna say cause I know people who brought up this "other" website on the debate board were banned. :eek:

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I was doing some google work cos I too want closure. I checked up things for "raven mathis" and "buckeyemum" and "LDS" with both names but turned up no results for anything stating any slander of sorts or anything that seemed out of line. Of course I'm also one of those people that is very hard to upset so I dunno. Regardless, I didn't see anything that could cause any possible debates. The "Raven" who came here was always so normal. I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt on this one and think there was a crazy person who tried to steal her identity. Only reason I believe this is cos I knew some nutter butters in the past. I knew someone who was so obsessed with another friend of mine that this person sold their car and got the same car as my friend, dressed like my friend, and bought the same things my friend had as if she wanted to be her. It's not out of the ordinary that you get a weird Single White Female person. I guess for some people in small towns it seems like too much of a fictional plot to believe but there are some REALLY REALLY messed up people in the world. Alas, until we get closure from a higher up, this is all so hard to comprehend.

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admin probably won't enlighten you. See, we're not allowed to discuss other sites that compete with PO or you can get banned. On here or privately. If they decide you are ban worthy that is.. But that is why the pm ***** the domain name.

i like that in her message on FB she abbreviated pregnancy.org with pg.org. I highly doubt somebody stole her identity to fool around on a pregnancy message board that she obviously spent a significant amount of time on and is just realizing it now. Think about it. sounds completely out of this universe.

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Snuff, I'm posting your post on the conservative board too, I know she posted over there from time to time.

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"jooniper" wrote:

Snuff, I'm posting your post on the conservative board too, I know she posted over there from time to time.

Thanks.

The more I read, the more confused I am.

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It doesn't add up. but thats the beauty of the internet you don't have to own up.

-Steph

I owe you a can of Organic formula..DH opened it right before I was going to send it out. I get it from our ped for free, as soon as I get more its yours!

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"mommashy" wrote:

It doesn't add up. but thats the beauty of the internet you don't have to own up.

-Steph

I owe you a can of Organic formula..DH opened it right before I was going to send it out. I get it from our ped for free, as soon as I get more its yours!

haha Don't worry about it! Whenever you get a chance would be great. Smile

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It's all so strange.... I was also a friend of Raven's in FB although I never contacted her that way. I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I have to say that the Raven we knew seemed quite normal and there were no inconsistencies in what she posted. The fact that she wanted to participate in our activities and was helping people with their signature collages makes me think we knew the "real" Raven... in which case we can only wonder what happened. If it wasn't the real Raven that we knew, why would this person go to such lengths to impersonate someone.

I know "Raven" left the board once before because we knew her as mathisgreen (I think that was her name), but I was glad when she came back because we all got along so well here.

We could wonder forever, but it looks like we'll probably never know what really happened. I'm not going to dig for the answers but only wish Raven well, whoever she might be.

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I think Raven is real.

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"Sandra Lee" wrote:

I think Raven is real.

Yeah... i do too.

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NAK

did more googling and found non-pg org drama but can't see why it would be something to go this far and do. and maybe i didn't get the i left email on fb cos it is the real raven and not an imposter and she knows i could care less about whatever was being said??? i dont understand why all this though...

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total lurker here ladies--sorry for intruding, but i have to agree with those that think she's real--there were some things said about her and this is the way she's dealing with it--i have to say, i'm not sure how i would deal with someone saying bad things about me, but this isn't it.

for anyone that looked at her blog, you'll realize many of her blog entries were mirror posts on this site--

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If someone finds out what the HECK is going on, could they also PM me the info?? I'm really confused as to what the heck's going on... I know she's gotten a little flack on the GDB recently, but so have I... certainly nothing to make me go running with my tail between my legs. Apologize and move on! I do remember her going away as mathisgreen and then coming back as buckeyemom a LOOOOONG time ago. This is a little strange. I do wish that admin would let us know what the deal is as we have dealt personally with Raven and I believe we deserve an explanation. Heck, she JUST PM'd me on here since last night, so this must all be very new!

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Hi Everyone,

I wanted to let you know that we have currently deactivated this account and another also associated (MumstheWord). As someone mentioned we did receive a notification today explaining that the account here was fraudulent and that the "real" Raven was a friend who's identity was used to create the persona here. The explanation did go further to explain that the real Raven was in no way responsible or associated with the posts that were made on our site. I do understand that "Raven" (actually both I guess?) were upset over posts being made offsite. Right now there is no way for us to discern what the motivation or truth actually is. For this reason we will not be deleting or editing any posts made and retaining for our records. I wish that I had a better explanation or could prove / disprove some of your suspicions.

Feel free to email me at [email]missyj@pregnancy.org[/email] if you have further questions or concerns & I'll do my best to respond.

Take care,

~Missy

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This is all so crazy! I'm so darned confused! :eek:

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Lori, looks like raven was the one who pm'd you.

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I have to say, the more I read the more I believe that she is real and there is no imposter. She had posted on my facebook wall and I posted on hers. So if the facebook Raven is real and the PO Raven is fake, wouldn't you think she would've noticed some Kimberly person posting messages on her wall? She's been a member here for over a year with thousands of posts, that's a lot of time to dedicate. I only became a member of this BB in January so I'm not sure what happened before when she was "mathisgreen" but I'm sure it's no coincidence that she created a new account.
It's sad because while she did stir up some drama every now and then she didn't seem all that bad.

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wow whats going on??? I go to my ds's soccer game and I come back and read all of this!!! Please someone tell me whats going on.

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This is CRAZY!! I can't believe this. I really liked Raven! If anyone finds out what's going on I'd love to hear about it. If someone really stole her identity, that is really scary!!

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Can I just say I'm not suprised by this? I know I don't post here often, but I lurk everyday! I'm pretty good at reading people! Count your blessings ladies that she is no longer here and be careful about what info you post on BB's, including pics! There's some freaky people out there!

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So let me get this right? ?There is a girl named Raven somewhere that was never on here, someone else was posting as her and used pics of her baby as well?

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That's the story. Like Sandra I'm not buying it.

I didn't always agree with her and sometimes the "extravagant" posts got under my skin along with a few other things she'd say but for the most part I liked her. There is always something about someone you don't like. Heck I could list 25 things (right now) I do that annoy the crap out of people. Smile

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Well, folks, even if the story is true, it's not like it was a complete internet stranger that stole her identity. It's someone they'd allowed to live in there home for OVER A YEAR. (she was a member starting aug 2007)

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