Sleep Support Thread JULY 2008

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Leigh Anne mentioned that her baby girl is a light sleeper...I guess we could start there.

Do you have white noise? When I put Leo to bed I put him down with a fan going in his room. It blows against a wall. It serves two purposes...first, white noise to block out other sounds around our small house, and second as prevention against SIDS. A new study is out showing how SIDS risk is reduced by up to 75% when a baby's room is well ventilated by an open window or fan.

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I swear by white noise too! I bought the alarm clock with different noises for both boys and they listen to the ocean while they sleep. Also the overhead fans in each room go. We have our large TV upstairs and my DH listens to movies loud and now it doesn't bother the boys at all.
I keep a few pacifiers in the crib so I am never searching for one in the middle of the night after feeding. Now he is finding them and putting them in himself. I also never talk or turn on any lights for feedings. Just feed and lay him back in his crib.

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sleep? what are you talking about? GREAT THREAD!!!!!

After several weeks of waking once at night to feed, Luken has been waking 3 or more times at night to feed lately. Ugh! I'm getting tired again . . .

I have a tiny fan going in Luken's room. It plugs in to an outlet and has a charcoal filter in it. It's next to our diaper bucket and it's supposed to keep the diaper smell gone. It also provides some white noise. Our house is quite drafty and he sleeps with the door open at night so the air circulates well in his room. He also goes to sleep with Mozart playing softly for him. It's some of the music that I listened to whilst pregnant and it was familiar to him from the start.

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oooh, i like the sound of this thread!
sleeping as become a disaster at our place lately!!

as far as white noise, no, i really dont have anything going on in her room...she does have a thing that hooks to the side of her crib that plays music and makes noises..it also puts a little light show on the ceiling. it only plays for 10 mins, but she can push a button herself and it starts again..she usually does push it with her feet.

our furnace goes off and on all night, and makes quite a bit of noise, so i guess you could count that as white noise...

i think Dani is a light sleeper, or can be. sometimes she sleeps thru anything, and i mean anything, other times the slightest noise wakes her. we've always since day one, tried not to be purposefully quiet when she is sleeping so that she would be used to noise. like i said, sometimes she wakes up easily and sometimes she sleeps thru anything..i cant figure this little girl out! lol

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i'd heard about tha fan/sids relationship. i also thought about the white noise, but i was told that could set us up for problems later on...like always needing it, etc. she does do well w/ the shh, shh, repeatedness...i think i'll try a wn machine anyway...i'll get a small one in case we need it everywhere Wink

oh. can we get this thread stickied? or should we?

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That's a great idea. We should sticky it.

Also, can we have some rules?

1. Everybody is sleep deprived. Let's not make it about who has it the worst.
2. Some people are cool with straight up CIO, some are not. Let's respect each other's comfort zones and try to be helpful within them.
3. Hmmm, can't think of anything else. LOL.

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

That's a great idea. We should sticky it.

Also, can we have some rules?

1. Everybody is sleep deprived. Let's not make it about who has it the worst.
2. Some people are cool with straight up CIO, some are not. Let's respect each other's comfort zones and try to be helpful within them.
3. Hmmm, can't think of anything else. LOL.

Sounds good to me.

OT: Emily I love your siggy. LOL!

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

That's a great idea. We should sticky it.

Also, can we have some rules?

1. Everybody is sleep deprived. Let's not make it about who has it the worst.
2. Some people are cool with straight up CIO, some are not. Let's respect each other's comfort zones and try to be helpful within them.
3. Hmmm, can't think of anything else. LOL.

agreed!!

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

1. Everybody is sleep deprived. Let's not make it about who has it the worst.
2. Some people are cool with straight up CIO, some are not. Let's respect each other's comfort zones and try to be helpful within them.
3. Hmmm, can't think of anything else. LOL.

I think when anyone adds their tips that they should put at the top of their comment what method they use. That way if someone puts CIO at the beginning then anyone that does not use that method can just skip to the next comment.

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I have several problems with sleep issues.

Background: Dylan and Darcy's beds are in the same room. Later we will figure something out so that they have their own room but for now with the layout of our house they are sharing. Dylan sleeps on our couch in the living room. We have not forced the issue but I am ready to get him in his room. It could be several problems but in the living room he gets light from the bathroom and the tv is usually on (I think this is his white noise). And also he has one of those cribs that converts to a toddler bed, which is how it is now, and I don't know if I should just make him sleep in it or try to get him a regular twin bed. I will not put a tv in his room. And Darcy's crib will not fit in our bedroom.

So any advice on where I should start? Should I start with Dylan or Darcy?

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"querie" wrote:

I think when anyone adds their tips that they should put at the top of their comment what method they use. That way if someone puts CIO at the beginning then anyone that does not use that method can just skip to the next comment.

all of that + this one sound good to me.

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

Also, can we have some rules?

2. Some people are cool with straight up CIO, some are not. Let's respect each other's comfort zones and try to be helpful within them.

This was not necessary Emily... No one here has ever forced their opinion on some else... it is no secret that CIO is not a favored method, but i cannot imagine anyone coming to this thread and being forceful about it.

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"girlisrad" wrote:

This was not necessary Emily... No one here has ever forced their opinion on some else... it is no secret that CIO is not a favored method, but i cannot imagine anyone coming to this thread and being forceful about it.

i'm glad no one here forces their opinion on the matter...my mom and cousin do that enough on me...I want to smack them LOL.

But, i think if we have that rule, it will quell lurkers from doing so...you know how that goes...

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"Leigh_Anne" wrote:

i'm glad no one here forces their opinion on the matter...my mom and cousin do that enough on me...I want to smack them LOL.

But, i think if we have that rule, it will quell lurkers from doing so...you know how that goes...

Ok, I understand that! Perhaps I am feeling a bit one sided today! I apologize... its a spicy day on the board, lol...

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"girlisrad" wrote:

Ok, I understand that! Perhaps I am feeling a bit one sided today! I apologize... its a spicy day on the board, lol...

eh, i think we need some spice now & then! Wink

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"Leigh_Anne" wrote:

eh, i think we need some spice now & then! Wink

:bighug: forward apologies to anyone who is gonna read what I wrote...

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"girlisrad" wrote:

This was not necessary Emily... No one here has ever forced their opinion on some else... it is no secret that CIO is not a favored method, but i cannot imagine anyone coming to this thread and being forceful about it.

Oh, I just meant that from my experience on all the birth boards I've been on it's inevitable that someone will say, "I can't CIO" and someone else will say, "Well, CIO is your only option". There are always options and we should try to work within that person's comfort zones. Likewise, if someone is cosleeping and wants to continue cosleeping we should respect that and not force the issue of seperate sleep. Or if someone likes their baby in a crib and doesn't want to cosleep, then we should respect that. Smile That's all. Smile I know we're all respectful but sometimes it's nice to have a few rules for the inevitable lurkers.

"sarahbeth_311" wrote:

Background: Dylan and Darcy's beds are in the same room. Later we will figure something out so that they have their own room but for now with the layout of our house they are sharing. Dylan sleeps on our couch in the living room. We have not forced the issue but I am ready to get him in his room. It could be several problems but in the living room he gets light from the bathroom and the tv is usually on (I think this is his white noise). And also he has one of those cribs that converts to a toddler bed, which is how it is now, and I don't know if I should just make him sleep in it or try to get him a regular twin bed. I will not put a tv in his room. And Darcy's crib will not fit in our bedroom.

Personally, I would start with Darcy. Darcy, at 6 months old, will be more receptive to changes in sleep patterns than Dylan. Once you get Darcy settled, then move in on Dylan. LOL! Could you start small with Dylan? Move the toddler bed into the livingroom and get him to sleep in it without the TV on? Then he's got the comfort of the room he's used to but without the distraction of the TV. Then you can slowly move his bed down the hallway and into his room, a few feet at a time. LOL!

My issue is with cosleeping. I've loved cosleeping and it's worked for us up until now. But, as a breastfeeding mom, I've noticed that Leo is waking MORE OFTEN to nurse in the night instead of spacing out his feedings. Instead of waking 3 times a night, like he did at 2 months, he is waking 8-10 times a night to nurse. I can nurse lying down, but the issue is that if he nursing I'm awake. I just can't sleep through it.

Here's my plan: get him into his crib, which is next to my bed. Ideally I'd like him to spend most of the night in the crib, but I'm not opposed to him coming into my bed aorund 6am for some nursing/snuggles before we get up for the day. I guess, in an ideal world, we would continue to cosleep and actually GET sleep. But, my instinct tells me that he can smell the milk and he knows how readily available it is, and that's why he's waking so often. I hope that if it's more work for him to eat in the night (get out of bed, sit in a chair, ect) then he won't be so apt to do it. Does that sound reasonable or am I in dreamland? LOL!

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

Here's my plan: get him into his crib, which is next to my bed. Ideally I'd like him to spend most of the night in the crib, but I'm not opposed to him coming into my bed aorund 6am for some nursing/snuggles before we get up for the day. I guess, in an ideal world, we would continue to cosleep and actually GET sleep. But, my instinct tells me that he can smell the milk and he knows how readily available it is, and that's why he's waking so often. I hope that if it's more work for him to eat in the night (get out of bed, sit in a chair, ect) then he won't be so apt to do it. Does that sound reasonable or am I in dreamland? LOL!

This is what we had to do. I had never intended to cosleep with Weston because I just don't sleep well with a kid in bed, but I was just so tired all the time that I would bring him into bed to nurse him and fall asleep the first time he woke. From there, the only time I'd wake up at night was when he stirred again, and I couldn't move him without nursing him back to sleep, I'd fall asleep again...vicious cycle! But he was getting up SO many times at night, that I was getting horrible sleep! So we ended up mostly cosleeping for the first 4 months. Then I started making sure I did not bring him to bed when he woke up, just sitting in a chair and he started sleeping longer and longer and waking less. Now he gets up once at night. Hope it works for you!

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

Personally, I would start with Darcy. Darcy, at 6 months old, will be more receptive to changes in sleep patterns than Dylan. Once you get Darcy settled, then move in on Dylan. LOL! Could you start small with Dylan? Move the toddler bed into the livingroom and get him to sleep in it without the TV on? Then he's got the comfort of the room he's used to but without the distraction of the TV. Then you can slowly move his bed down the hallway and into his room, a few feet at a time. LOL!

I kinda figured she might be the easier of the two. If I can get her sleeping in her crib and sleeping all night then I could work on moving him in there. That way he will not be woken up by her if I were to do it the other way around. Does that make sense?

As far as beginning with her I think my plan probably will be to nurse/rock her to sleep and then try putting her down in her crib and see how long I can get her to stay in her crib. I am hoping that it will be longer and longer each night.

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"~HollyBear~" wrote:

This is what we had to do. I had never intended to cosleep with Weston because I just don't sleep well with a kid in bed, but I was just so tired all the time that I would bring him into bed to nurse him and fall asleep the first time he woke. From there, the only time I'd wake up at night was when he stirred again, and I couldn't move him without nursing him back to sleep, I'd fall asleep again...vicious cycle! But he was getting up SO many times at night, that I was getting horrible sleep! So we ended up mostly cosleeping for the first 4 months. Then I started making sure I did not bring him to bed when he woke up, just sitting in a chair and he started sleeping longer and longer and waking less. Now he gets up once at night. Hope it works for you!

This is exactly what happened with us. I NEVER thought I would be a co-sleeper until it happened. And I am now ready for my bed back.

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"sarahbeth_311" wrote:

I kinda figured she might be the easier of the two. If I can get her sleeping in her crib and sleeping all night then I could work on moving him in there. That way he will not be woken up by her if I were to do it the other way around. Does that make sense?

As far as beginning with her I think my plan probably will be to nurse/rock her to sleep and then try putting her down in her crib and see how long I can get her to stay in her crib. I am hoping that it will be longer and longer each night.

I was reading in the book I recommended that babies sometimes need help learning to fall asleep. The nature of our sleep patterns is that most people wake up a few times during the night. As adults, we know how to put ourselves back to sleep...we do so quickly so that we might not even remember our night wakings. Babies, on the other hand, don't necessarily know how to put themselves back to sleep when they wake at night...so they cry and need to be nursed/rocked/shhh'd back to sleep.

Could you nurse her until she's drowsy and then put her in her crib to fall asleep? That way she might learn that she doesn't need to nurse to fall asleep...and she might start to get into a pattern of putting herself to sleep when she nightwakes.

Last night, with Leo, I nursed him until he was really drowsy and then I put him in his crib. I stayed next to him, with my hand rubbing his scalp, until he fell asleep. Sure, now he'll be addicted to the scalp rub, but at least he'll soon know that he doesn't need to be nursed to sleep every time.

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

My issue is with cosleeping. I've loved cosleeping and it's worked for us up until now. But, as a breastfeeding mom, I've noticed that Leo is waking MORE OFTEN to nurse in the night instead of spacing out his feedings. Instead of waking 3 times a night, like he did at 2 months, he is waking 8-10 times a night to nurse. I can nurse lying down, but the issue is that if he nursing I'm awake. I just can't sleep through it.

Here's my plan: get him into his crib, which is next to my bed. Ideally I'd like him to spend most of the night in the crib, but I'm not opposed to him coming into my bed aorund 6am for some nursing/snuggles before we get up for the day. I guess, in an ideal world, we would continue to cosleep and actually GET sleep. But, my instinct tells me that he can smell the milk and he knows how readily available it is, and that's why he's waking so often. I hope that if it's more work for him to eat in the night (get out of bed, sit in a chair, ect) then he won't be so apt to do it. Does that sound reasonable or am I in dreamland? LOL!

And to reply to your plan (haven't quite figured out multiple quoting) I do think that they know or learn that the milk is right there. At first I was putting Darcy in her crib and she would sleep from 8pm-3am then I would bring her to bed with me and she would stay there the rest of the morning and then it turned into full time co-sleeping and ever since then she will wake much more during the night. I think I became her pacifier.

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

I was reading in the book I recommended that babies sometimes need help learning to fall asleep. The nature of our sleep patterns is that most people wake up a few times during the night. As adults, we know how to put ourselves back to sleep...we do so quickly so that we might not even remember our night wakings. Babies, on the other hand, don't necessarily know how to put themselves back to sleep when they wake at night...so they cry and need to be nursed/rocked/shhh'd back to sleep.

Could you nurse her until she's drowsy and then put her in her crib to fall asleep? That way she might learn that she doesn't need to nurse to fall asleep...and she might start to get into a pattern of putting herself to sleep when she nightwakes.

Last night, with Leo, I nursed him until he was really drowsy and then I put him in his crib. I stayed next to him, with my hand rubbing his scalp, until he fell asleep. Sure, now he'll be addicted to the scalp rub, but at least he'll soon know that he doesn't need to be nursed to sleep every time.

Ultimately this is what I am hoping for, but I guess my thought on rocking/nursing to sleep was baby steps and not cold turkey.

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Yup. We're going to have to do some MAJOR changes in the sleep arena at my house. I'm going to stop BFing very soon and my biggest hold back is night time. Once I get something in place for night time, I'll be finished with BFing.

Right now we give Rylee a bottle and then I nurse her to sleep. She is usually in her crib by 8:30 pm. Lately she's been waking between 10 and 12 and I've just been lazy and brought her to bed with me so I could nurse her to sleep. Well, it used to be OK, now she wiggles and is waking an awful lot. I think she woke up to nurse about 6 times last night. I'm over it. I'm sick of being a human pacie. I never intended to be a co-sleeper...heck I didn't even know what the term meant until I heard it on here. But, I'm ready for my bed back (and I know DH is ready to be back in bed with me!).

I'm going to have to suck it up and spend the time to put her back to sleep. I guess I'll try rocking her when she wakes? Not automatically go to nursing?

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Jennifer, will she take a paci? Could you try rubbing her back or scalp until she falls back asleep?

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No paci here. Has never taken one. I've rubbed her back before, but it seems that the contact just makes her wake up more. But, I'll keep trying.

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"Jeffininer" wrote:

I'm going to have to suck it up and spend the time to put her back to sleep. I guess I'll try rocking her when she wakes? Not automatically go to nursing?

This is what we did with my son and it worked wonderfully to stop the night feedings, at first he cried but I was holding him so he was soon comforted. He quite quickly stopped waking at night. Only problem is that whenever he did wake up and cry I had to go in and rock him. I didn't break this habit until just lately when he moved to his big bed.

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I swear by white noise ladies, I really do! And swaddling for the littlest ones, though now we're faced with the ugly task of weaning from the swaddling.

When my first was little she was SUCH a light sleeper, and I finally broke down and tried the white noise on my alarm clock all night. Not only did she sleep better and wake less, it helped ME sleep better because I couldn't hear every little noise that kept me constantly waking to check on her.

Both Callie and Lilah now sleep with white noise and Callie's is turned down to almost nothing, she's almost outgrown the need for it... but the ability to turn it louder during Lilah's naps so that big sissy's banging around downstairs won't wake her? PHENOMENAL!

We successfully transferred from bed beside me to the cosleeper next to the bed and Lilah has been sleeping better without us moving around and rousing her. It was tough the first night and she doesn't like it as much in the morning, but it has worked well. Now we're wrestling with her getting out of ANY swaddling, no matter how tight. This weekend we're going to try and keep her arms out of it and see how it goes. She tends to scratch herself in the face and grab at her pacifier, which keeps her awake, but I am hoping we only have a few rough nights.

My big tip is to do transitions of any sort on a weekend, so you have more time and lose less sleep on the important work days, if need be. I know my husband doesn't get enough sleep as is, so it is important that the 'bad sleep' days fall mostly on days he can get a few extra hours.

Anyway, we're doing well here, overall. Lilah's constant nightwaking that she got into for a month or so has tapered off and she is sleeping much longer stretches once again. It's just a phase, and I knew it would be, so I was a bit vindicated when it ended (my husband thought she was permanently nightwaking from here on out ;)). Once we're out of the swaddling it's off to her own room so we can reclaim the bedroom. I'll be sad to see her go into the next room (and to have to listen to two baby monitors each night) but it's important to Peter that we get our bed back for adult reasons, as well as the fact that my office and packing area for my fiber is in the bedroom and I often work when Lilah is asleep... so I lose productivity not being able to go in there and use it during her naps.

Anyway, I am glad to hear most everyone is doing better on the sleep issues, like we are. It's one of those things that does get better with time and patience, thank goodness!

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Taryl, isn't Callie getting big enough not to need the monitor? She's two right? Is she still in a crib? I only ask because I loved getting rid of the monitor. LOL! I figure that from about 6mos onward baby isn't serious about getting up if they can't yell loud enough for me to hear. Lol But, we live in a 1200sq/ft townhouse.

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Great thread ladies. Our sleep has been okay at night. I usually nurse/bottle feed her to drowsiness, then put her in her crib. I hold her hands gently down to her side (I think she likes that feeling from when she was swaddled) and wisper sh sh sh sh. We have a large box fan right next to her crib on the floor blowing out towards the door. I turn it up full blast! I also am a firm believer in white noise. Kayla still uses a small fan in her room. If she wakes up after this routine, I go in, and see if she is stuck or if she has thrown up on herself. If not, then I just put her back at the top of the crib and try and calm her by holding her hands down again and saying sh sh sh. She has been (*knocks on wood*) sleeping for about 10-12 hours a night. If she does get up, I am lazy and bring her into bed with me.

Naps are another issue. She doesn't like to nap in her crib. I am working on sleep training with naps. We are trying the comfort then put down routine. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I am not too worried about it, since we are going to Disney next week, I will work on it when we get back.

I look foward to seeing what everyone has to say!

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"trying4#2inMD" wrote:

Great thread ladies. Our sleep has been okay at night. I usually nurse/bottle feed her to drowsiness, then put her in her crib. I hold her hands gently down to her side (I think she likes that feeling from when she was swaddled) and wisper sh sh sh sh. We have a large box fan right next to her crib on the floor blowing out towards the door. I turn it up full blast! I also am a firm believer in white noise. Kayla still uses a small fan in her room. If she wakes up after this routine, I go in, and see if she is stuck or if she has thrown up on herself. If not, then I just put her back at the top of the crib and try and calm her by holding her hands down again and saying sh sh sh. She has been (*knocks on wood*) sleeping for about 10-12 hours a night. If she does get up, I am lazy and bring her into bed with me.

Naps are another issue. She doesn't like to nap in her crib. I am working on sleep training with naps. We are trying the comfort then put down routine. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I am not too worried about it, since we are going to Disney next week, I will work on it when we get back.

I look foward to seeing what everyone has to say!

What kind of schedule are you using? Do you have a firm nap time, so that she knows when to expect it?

Ours looks like this:
6:30-7am: Loud, cheerful wakeup so that he knows it's not sleepy time anymore. Eat, play, ect.
Two hours later at 8:30-9am he gets a nap for 1.5-2 hours.
Eat, play, ect next.
Two to three hours later at 12:30-1:30 he goes down for another 1.5-2 hour nap. If he wakes too early then he'll get another short nap (30-45 minutes) at 4pm. But I won't let him sleep past 5pm because that will interfere with his bedtime of 7pm.

So far our successes are great! He's going down to sleep easier. He's waking more rested. And last night, in the middle of the night, he woke up and fussed for a 1.5-2 minutes and then fell right back asleep!!! That's HUGE for us, as he's never put himself to sleep in the night before. Mind you, he was still up 6 times last night, but that's better than last week's 8-10 times a night. Smile

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Way to go Emily, sounds like your plan is working!

Your question about schedules and naps. That is the problem, I am a softie and I have not enforced a daytime schedule. We do stick to a strict 7pm bedtime routine though. I need some time in the evenings to chill with the hubby!

That said, she does put herself on somewhat of a daytime schedule. She seems tired about 1.5 - 2 hours after she gets up. I attempt to put her in her crib for a nap. Sometimes she will sleep for 1/2 hour, other times, not at all. The afternoon naps are what is killing me! I know she is tired, but she will not go down. She used to sleep in her swing and it worked for a while. But she is too alert now and interested in what is going on to do that.

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What about winding down with her in a dark room on a rocking chair? This book recommends closing YOUR eyes so that she can't catch your glance and try to entertain you. LOL! Is her room dark?

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I really shouldn't give advice because sleep is not going very well here but I've read many books and my son was a beautiful sleeper. I just don't have the time or energy to implement what I know should work.

White noise is a must. I've recently bought the dimmest nightlight I could find for middle of the night wakings and that seems to have helped Esme. At least she goes right back to sleep now after waking to eat. A relatively firm schedule (or routine) really helped Xavier. I am going to implement that any day now for Esme LOL. An early bedtime (we do 6:30pm) is essential for my kids. The later they go to bed then the earlier they get up in the morning, doesn't make sense but it is true.

I've also recently added a light blanket and lovey to Esme's crib. She is mostly asleep when I lay her down, but I continue to hold her one arm close to her body, place the blanket over her, then lay her lovey next to her arm. I also continue to sing or shhh during this, more often now it only takes 1 or 2 tries to keep her eyes closed and go to sleep rather than multiple stressful attempts at the "transfer" of the recent past.

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"nu mommee" wrote:

I've also recently added a light blanket and lovey to Esme's crib.

What is a "lovey"? Like a small blanket or stuffed animal? I am still afraid to put something in there with Allie.

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"trying4#2inMD" wrote:

What is a "lovey"? Like a small blanket or stuffed animal? I am still afraid to put something in there with Allie.

We have a small bear dressed as a rabbit that has no small pieces that could come off. I feel comfortable giving it to her now bc she rolls both ways, reaches for things and is relatively coordinated so I'm absolutely sure that it is safe. A lovey can be a stuffed animal or a small blanket, something that makes the child feel secure. One tip is to hold the lovey close to you before putting your LO to sleep so that it smells like you and that adds to the comfort.

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Emily,

If I put Esme down for a nap at 8:30 (she gets up at 6:30am) and it is only a short 45min nap then what do I do? Stay with her until 10am trying to convince her to sleep? That won't be easy with a toddler running around. Or let her get up but keep her awake until the next naptime at 12:30?

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I love this thread! Getting more sleep is a huge issue for us right now. It seems that most of you are having problems getting your kid to sleep, and that's what most of the advice is about. Dina goes to sleep well with her paci, my problem is that she wakes up every 2 to 3 hours for feedings. How do I get her to stop that? I am not comfortable with CIO, and I feel that if she's hungry then of course I'm going to feed her, right? My pediatrician said that at this age, she is just waking up because of bad habits and that she shouldn't have to wake up that often for feedings.
Any advice, ladies?

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Ada slept through the night from about 3 months until 5 months. Now she's waking up in the middle of the night at least once!!!! She won't take a bottle or eat solids yet, so she's still EBF. I'm assuming since she's getting bigger, she really does need more food and that's why she's waking up. I could be wrong, but that's my current theory. Patting or rocking won't work when she wakes up, only feeding her will make her happy. She goes right back to sleep after she eats.

We have a fan in her room for white noise. She goes to sleep on her own. It's rare that she will fall asleep with me rocking her. She'll fall asleep on the boob, but wakes up the second I take it away. She's a thumb sucker, so she finds her thumb as soon as she lays down.

She takes long naps during the day -- up to 4 hours at a time! She usually only takes 2 naps a day. It's very hard to keep her up, but I won't let her go to sleep until 7:30pm. My older DD wouldn't go to sleep until around 10pm when she was this age, so this is different for us!

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That's a great schedule Beth! Your baby is so kind to you! My dd grew into that kind of sleeper but not so young. What's your secret?

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How was last night for everyone? Did you make any changes? Have any successes or reversions?

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

How was last night for everyone? Did you make any changes? Have any successes or reversions?

I am starting tonight to get her in her crib. I think starting on the weekend will work better for us. And I am definately motivated after the last couple of nights, I lost track of the times she woke up.

Also can babies retake to a paci if they haven't had it full time for awhile? Darcy would take a paci and then I kind of got lazy with it and she really didn't seem to mind, but now when I give it to her she will pull it out and just chew on it and not really suck. Should I just keep offering it to her or just let it go?
I know a lot of her wakings the last couple of nights are not for eating because I don't think she is really awake, she just can't soothe herself back to sleep.

ETA: How was your night with Leo?

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Hi Sarah!

Last night was OK, I guess. He fell asleep on his own in his crib, which is great. But he was still up 5 times. That's better than 10 though. LOL!!! He took a nap fantastically already this morning too, so that's good. I'm hoping that with everytime he puts himself to sleep without nursing (like he does for naps and at bedtime) that he will slowly lose his nightwaking.

I'm not sure on the paci. I know that my firstborn wouldn't take one until he was 4 months old...so it could be worth trying. But, at the same time, this is a good age to wean them from it. Right now it's a crutch for Leo...I have to go upstairs and put it back in his mouth when it falls out and that's hard on both of us. I kind of wish that he wouldn't take one because then he could fall alseep without needing me to put it back everytime he opens his mouth.

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

Hi Sarah!

Last night was OK, I guess. He fell asleep on his own in his crib, which is great. But he was still up 5 times. That's better than 10 though. LOL!!! He took a nap fantastically already this morning too, so that's good. I'm hoping that with everytime he puts himself to sleep without nursing (like he does for naps and at bedtime) that he will slowly lose his nightwaking.

I'm not sure on the paci. I know that my firstborn wouldn't take one until he was 4 months old...so it could be worth trying. But, at the same time, this is a good age to wean them from it. Right now it's a crutch for Leo...I have to go upstairs and put it back in his mouth when it falls out and that's hard on both of us. I kind of wish that he wouldn't take one because then he could fall alseep without needing me to put it back everytime he opens his mouth.

5 times is much better than 10 and that is great that he is doing so good at putting himself to sleep, I am sure in no time he will be rid of those nightwakings.

I agree on the paci, I am torn because I want her to have a way to soothe herself/something for comfort besides me but I also don't want her to be stuck on it.

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Hello ladies! I just wanted to update you because we had a great night last night! I decided that I just can't take nursing him to sleep and having my nunnie taken hostage anymore, so no more nursing to sleep. At bedtime we put him in the crib (also new, as he's been cosleeping up to now) and he protested for a good long time. DH and I took turns going in to calm him every 5 minutes, but that just made him angry, so we finally just left him alone for a bit. He finally fell asleep on his own about an hour after bedtime, slept almost 4 hours, had a quick cuddle, back down, protested for about 30 seconds then fell asleep. He slept another 2 hours, woke up for nunnies and then I put him back down, he protested for another 30 seconds and fell asleep for another 4 hours. So a fantastic night for us!!!

Naptime is another story. He's not giving in. It's been 1 1/2 hours already. Ugh. I've gone in to calm him a couple times, but it's the same story. He just gets pissed off.

But small steps, right? I have to say, at 6 months there is NO way he would have fallen asleep like he did last night.

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"MamaArty_RMT" wrote:

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Hello ladies! I just wanted to update you because we had a great night last night! I decided that I just can't take nursing him to sleep and having my nunnie taken hostage anymore, so no more nursing to sleep. At bedtime we put him in the crib (also new, as he's been cosleeping up to now) and he protested for a good long time. DH and I took turns going in to calm him every 5 minutes, but that just made him angry, so we finally just left him alone for a bit. He finally fell asleep on his own about an hour after bedtime, slept almost 4 hours, had a quick cuddle, back down, protested for about 30 seconds then fell asleep. He slept another 2 hours, woke up for nunnies and then I put him back down, he protested for another 30 seconds and fell asleep for another 4 hours. So a fantastic night for us!!!

Naptime is another story. He's not giving in. It's been 1 1/2 hours already. Ugh. I've gone in to calm him a couple times, but it's the same story. He just gets pissed off.

But small steps, right? I have to say, at 6 months there is NO way he would have fallen asleep like he did last night.

Thanks for your update, you give me hope that I won't be nursing Darcy to sleep forever.

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That's great Arty. I'm so glad that you both got some good sleep.

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"Emilys3Guppies" wrote:

That's a great schedule Beth! Your baby is so kind to you! My dd grew into that kind of sleeper but not so young. What's your secret?

I wish I knew the secret. We had a horrible night last night! She went down at 7:30pm. Then she woke up at 9:00pm, 1:00am, 5:30am, 6:45am, and 8:00am wake up. I don't know what is happening to my baby! It's like a completely different child from 2 weeks ago! She usually takes a 2-4 hour nap in the morning/early afternoon. She only slept for 1 hour this morning and hasn't gone back to sleep yet. Luckily DH is home this afternoon to give me a break. She won't go to sleep unless she has just eaten either. *sigh* Not sure what to do. I figure I have to wait until she's eating solids and/or taking a bottle to know if she truly needs more to eat. :confused:

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Sounds like you guys all had pretty good night.

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"MamaArty_RMT" wrote:

:lurk:

Hello ladies! I just wanted to update you because we had a great night last night! I decided that I just can't take nursing him to sleep and having my nunnie taken hostage anymore, so no more nursing to sleep. At bedtime we put him in the crib (also new, as he's been cosleeping up to now) and he protested for a good long time. DH and I took turns going in to calm him every 5 minutes, but that just made him angry, so we finally just left him alone for a bit. He finally fell asleep on his own about an hour after bedtime, slept almost 4 hours, had a quick cuddle, back down, protested for about 30 seconds then fell asleep. He slept another 2 hours, woke up for nunnies and then I put him back down, he protested for another 30 seconds and fell asleep for another 4 hours. So a fantastic night for us!!!

Naptime is another story. He's not giving in. It's been 1 1/2 hours already. Ugh. I've gone in to calm him a couple times, but it's the same story. He just gets pissed off.

But small steps, right? I have to say, at 6 months there is NO way he would have fallen asleep like he did last night.

Ariana I'm so glad you had a better night!!!:D baby steps... I hope tonight is better too!

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Oh man, last night was awful!! I started around 7:30pm and rocked her to sleep. I went and put her in her crib. I think it was about 5 min she woke up. I let her fuss a little and when she started screaming I went and got her. I nursed/rocked her back to sleep. I think I did this 3 times. Then I tried just leaving her in her crib and standing next to her. I kept shushing and rubbing her face every time she started to fuss. I think I stood there a good 30 min until she was finally wide awake and screaming. I tried 1 more time to rock/nurse her to sleep and lay her down. She stayed asleep in her crib maybe 20-30 min and then was awake screaming and I had just dozed off so I went and got her and brought her to bed with me. I think by then it was around midnight and I was exhausted.

I am going to try again tonight and hopefully it goes a little better.

Oh and yesterday I also would go put her in her crib every time she fell asleep nursing and she did take a couple of good naps, maybe 45 min to an hour each. So I think I will keep up with that.

And 1 more thought is that I really need to get something set up today for white noise because I think that will help her.

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