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    No, you're not alone. Still not sleeping through the night here either. He did it twice and that's it. He usually goes to sleep at 8:30 (though lately it's been 9/9:30, I've gotta get him back again) and then sometimes up around 12am, then usually always at 2 or 3am, then 5am, then up for the day at around 7am. I wonder when he will regularly sleep through...

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    everyone I talk to acts as though he should be sleeping through the night, but you gals give me comfort that there is no norm and we are the norm! LOL At least last night he only woke twice. I can deal with twice! It's the 6 times I can't deal with. He slept 10 hours straight once, but he wakes up hungry! I think he might be growth spurting now too, bc he is eating like a cow .
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugspop View Post
    what no cry methods are you trying?

    He was doing great with only waking once in the night, until this horrible cough came! and maybe it is a growth spurt too, but now he seems to want to eat often through the night, and I know he is getting plenty to eat during the day. Sigh. I thought they said they would sleep through the night by now! LOL Maybe I'm encouraging some bad habits that I need to break.
    The book "The No Cry Sleep Solution" has some good ideas. Basically you take tiny steps to get them more independent in falling asleep on their own. I admit I got into a bad habit of picking him up too soon sometimes, partly b/c I just wanted to get back to sleep sooner. Now I wait and give him a few minutes of fussing before going in--sometimes he does go back to sleep without crying. If he wakes crying or progresses to crying I go in there and lay him back down (he's usually standing up in the crib) and rub his back. Sometimes that works, although it may take several minutes. i've found if I pick him up I have to nurse him, so that's my last recourse. Last night he only woke twice (nursed both times and seemed hungry) so I think we've made progress.
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    everyone I talk to is in consensus that a baby Rogan's age should be sleeping through the night. So I know it was me that was creating the problem bc I go to him and pick him up, nurse him, bring him to bed with me, whatever! So he was waking for the pleasure of my company.

    so I sought advice and got a great technique. It has worked wonders, and it isn't as harsh as CIO. He slept 10 hours straight last night, and just woke from a 2 hour nap. It's like a miracle or something. Hallelujuleah!!
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    update, we are doing better here. I bring him in with me if he seems to need it, but sometimes he sleeps fine in his crib. Since he is away from me all day during the week, I think he has a bit of separation anxiety. He freaks out if I go to the bathroom or take out the trash, and follows me wherever I go. By paying more attention to that and letting him sleep with me sometimes, he does a lot better when he does sleep on his own. He is also less clingy during the day and happier overall.
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    Jules what is your secret? please share!! Is he still sleeping well?
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    Hi Alicia,
    My sister introduced me to a wonderful technique, and he has been sleeping through the night (10 hours on average, sometimes more!) for over 2 weeks now!!!!!!! It's pure heaven. We are fiinally sleeping, and he is too, which makes for one happy little guy and mommy and daddy.

    There is some crying involved, but you don't walk out of the room. It makes me feel like I haven't abandoned him, but rather I'm helping him understand that he is to sleep in his crib and that mommy is just in the other room etc.

    Just remember, if you are getting up to nurse Daemon in the middle of the night or bringing him to bed, you are just helping to create the wakings as he is waking for the pleasure of your company. Also, He DOES NOT need to eat at night! he doesn't need it. He will make up for anything he needs during the day, and this was totally true for us because he was waking at least 2 times and nursing.

    So, you and DH need to be on the same page about the technique and about not bringing him to bed with you or giving in and nursing. With that said, here is the technique (you will want to apply at nap time too),

    Create a great routine first to help him get ready for bed if you haven't already (bath, books, songs, bottle/nurse) etc. When he wakes up, either you or DH go into his room... do not say anything to him. Do not look at him. Do now frown, do not smile. Simply lay him back down, and turn your back to him (do not give him attention). He will inevitably be hurt and mad the first time. My Little guy gave me pure hell the first time I did this, crying for about an hour, and then taking an additional half hour to completely settle and go to sleep.

    When he woke up again that night, it took me about 10 minutes of laying him back down each time he stood up or sat up. You lay him down, and turn around. You can leave the room once he is asleep.

    Second night, he barely cried for 10 minutes, two different times. By the third night, there was no more waking!

    Now that was fast. It took my sister a month, so depending on how much sleep training you've already done (I've been working on it for months!), Daemon may catch on quick or put up a big fight. You just can't give up and you need to remain consistent.

    You can stand with your back to him at the crib for the first three nights. You may then choose to walk to the door with back turned and continue the technique for the next three nights. Then you may just walk out of the room and let him settle.

    Even when we finish bedtime routine, I lay Rogan in his crib wide awake and he goes right to sleep on his own, no complaining. Same with nap! In fact, now he asks to be put in the crib when he is tired and he settles and goes to sleep if he was grumping.

    Sorry that is long, but that completely worked for us and it has been absolutely incredible. Let me know if you have specific questions! GL!!! It is totally worth a few nights of sacrifice, but it is a miracle technique. I had my Nanny apply that at naptime too, and now she lays him downn and by the time she turns on the monitor and looks back, he is asleep (and naps have always been hell). Let me know if you decide to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugspop View Post
    Hi Alicia,
    My sister introduced me to a wonderful technique, and he has been sleeping through the night (10 hours on average, sometimes more!) for over 2 weeks now!!!!!!! It's pure heaven. We are fiinally sleeping, and he is too, which makes for one happy little guy and mommy and daddy.

    There is some crying involved, but you don't walk out of the room. It makes me feel like I haven't abandoned him, but rather I'm helping him understand that he is to sleep in his crib and that mommy is just in the other room etc.

    Just remember, if you are getting up to nurse Daemon in the middle of the night or bringing him to bed, you are just helping to create the wakings as he is waking for the pleasure of your company. Also, He DOES NOT need to eat at night! he doesn't need it. He will make up for anything he needs during the day, and this was totally true for us because he was waking at least 2 times and nursing.

    So, you and DH need to be on the same page about the technique and about not bringing him to bed with you or giving in and nursing. With that said, here is the technique (you will want to apply at nap time too),

    Create a great routine first to help him get ready for bed if you haven't already (bath, books, songs, bottle/nurse) etc. When he wakes up, either you or DH go into his room... do not say anything to him. Do not look at him. Do now frown, do not smile. Simply lay him back down, and turn your back to him (do not give him attention). He will inevitably be hurt and mad the first time. My Little guy gave me pure hell the first time I did this, crying for about an hour, and then taking an additional half hour to completely settle and go to sleep.

    When he woke up again that night, it took me about 10 minutes of laying him back down each time he stood up or sat up. You lay him down, and turn around. You can leave the room once he is asleep.

    Second night, he barely cried for 10 minutes, two different times. By the third night, there was no more waking!

    Now that was fast. It took my sister a month, so depending on how much sleep training you've already done (I've been working on it for months!), Daemon may catch on quick or put up a big fight. You just can't give up and you need to remain consistent.

    You can stand with your back to him at the crib for the first three nights. You may then choose to walk to the door with back turned and continue the technique for the next three nights. Then you may just walk out of the room and let him settle.

    Even when we finish bedtime routine, I lay Rogan in his crib wide awake and he goes right to sleep on his own, no complaining. Same with nap! In fact, now he asks to be put in the crib when he is tired and he settles and goes to sleep if he was grumping.

    Sorry that is long, but that completely worked for us and it has been absolutely incredible. Let me know if you have specific questions! GL!!! It is totally worth a few nights of sacrifice, but it is a miracle technique. I had my Nanny apply that at naptime too, and now she lays him downn and by the time she turns on the monitor and looks back, he is asleep (and naps have always been hell). Let me know if you decide to try it.
    GOOD FOR YOU JULES! Glad you are finally sleeping! I bet rogan is a happier baby too!
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    Jules,

    That is something very similar to what we did and it worked wonders. It took about a week to work for us. The first night I went in about 20 times to lay her back down!! The next night it was about 10 and so on. I have NEVER had to feed her in the middle of the night at this age!

    The good thing about this training is that you KNOW when something is wrong with them and they won't sleep. I still have about one or two nights a month where she fights sleep. Every time has been before she has gotten sick or a tooth popped out the next day.
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