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I hope it's okay to start this thread now since not all the Lucky Ducks are here yet. Those of you that are breastfeeding, how is it going for you?

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Really good! He nurses every couple hours during the day and will go about 3 hours at night. Right now i have SO much milk and feeding time is kind of a mess...lol Smile I know that will regulate shortly and things will be less messy. Finn seemed to really pick nursing up more quickly than the others.

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Awesome! Emilie is doing really well, too. In the hospital her ped mentioned how strong her suction is and I was like, no kidding! She's ferocious when it comes to feeding, LOL! I'm in pain though. I seem to feel my milk come in after every feeding and it feels like pins and needles when it does. The latching on is not as toe curling now, though, so that's good. She's nursing every 2 hours or so and has gone a few 5 hour stretches at night. I could get used to that. Wink

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Great job, gals! I started off BFing and supplementing with formula. Tay had a great latch, Avi had a learning curve. By day 10, however, by the time I finished one, the other was ready again (exaggerating a little). So now I'm pumping and giving them the breastmilk. I barely make enough for two yet, but we're getting there. My nipples hate me though...

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Juliette is doing awesome. I feel like she eats all the time, but really she can do about 3 hours between "good" feeds. Heidi I agree that the let down was super painful at first, but is finally starting to let up. Meg, my nipples were raw for the first few days with J, I can't imagine doing double that! It really took about 4 or 5 days before it was only the let down that hurt and not the nipple pain. A friend of mine gave me the advice to try different positions like side lay to help the babies mouth not always touch the same spots on your nipple to help rest them. I don't know if it helped too much but it was good to have something to try. Heidi, Juliette took to nursing super easy compared to my other two. I had barely gotten her in position the first time and she latched. I didn't even have my breast supported or rub the nipple on her lips. I guess being 9lbs, she didn't want to miss a meal. Smile Glad everyone is doing well!

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Nice job ladies! I don't get a supply so I knew not to even try this time, so bottle-fed from the start. Smile

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Jen - I feel ya. My sis is the same way... I'm all for feeding anyway as long as they're full!! Wink I definitely interchange as needed!

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Clara's doing great with bf'ing! Like others have said, she is eating about every 2-2.5 hrs. For the first week, she wanted to nurse all night long! Like 30 min. out of every hour...it was exhausting. But the last 3 nights have been much better, and she's sleeping for 3 hour stretches between feedings.

It's all been so much easier the second time around for me...a lot less painful as far as sore nipples, and I just feel more confident that I'm doing it correctly. With DS1, I used to have tears running down my face every time he would latch on! But, I have to say, the uterine contractions during nursing were way WORSE this time! Last time, they were just little cramps, and this time they are full-on, take-my-breath-away painful! But at least I know my uterus is shrinking down, and they are starting to subside now.

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I'm struggling. A lot. Emilie has lost nearly 10% of her body weight (she lost 3 more ounces after we left the hospital) so her ped suggested I pump to see what's coming out. Let me tell you....not much! I got 1/4 ounce in 15 minutes of pumping one breast (the breast she would have been fed on next). So I've started taking fenugreek to see if that helps and in the meantime I've had to supplement with formula (man, I didn't realize what a negative reaction people have to forumula!). I did some research and found that women with PCOS can have trouble with their supply. I wasn't diagnosed with it until a few years ago so maybe that's why I seemed to have an over abundance with my other two and not much of anything with this one. I pumped every 3 hours last night and once already this morning and I only got out 3 ounces total, between both breasts. I'm feeling very discouraged.

Meg - Since you have PCOS, too, are you still struggling to produce?

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Don't get down on yourself Heidi. If you have to supplement then do it. If people give you problems about it then they are the ones with a problem not you. I'm sorry your having this problem. Hopefully your supply with pick up with more nursing and pumping.

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Hugs, Heidi! No shame in supplementing. You are getting your baby fed and that is what counts! I have heard eating oatmeal helps up your supply. Worth a shot anyway!

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Hi everyone! I still have to write my birth story, but it has been crazy here! I tried to BF, but it was so stressful and the baby was so big that we had to do bottles right away because of her glucose levels were dropping. When my milk started coming in 2 days ago, I tried to pump but it is so time-consuming. I know it takes awhile to get everything running smoothly, but I know I won't be able to keep it up when I go back to work anyway. So I think it is bottles for us....I just feel like such a bad mommy Sad

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I'm sorry you're struggling, Heidi. That is discouraging when you are doing everything you can to BF! I agree, don't be so hard on yourself. You are doing the best you can! Clara lost a significant amount of weight, too. She was down 10 oz in the first 48 hrs, and since then she has only gained 5 or 6 oz back, so she is still not back to birth weight at 2 weeks old. I didn't have this problem with DS1, so I'm not sure what to think. I am just trying to nurse her as often as possible and let her completely finish one breast before trying the other to make sure it gets "drained" and she gets the more high-calorie "hind milk."

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Dee, don't feel bad about having to do what works best for your family. The only "bad" mommies in my book are the ones that don't feed their kid! Since we are all doing that I think we are still in the running for mother of the year. Smile I don't really have any Bfing advice but I just want to support everyone that is trying and don't want anyone to feel bad for a minute if it doesn't work for them.
I also have to say that at two weeks out I am finally feeling better at let down. Of course now I'm leaking like crazy, but I'll take a wet shirt over that pain any day of the week! I just wish they made breast pads thinner or a different material that didn't show so much under shirts.

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Thanks Lindsay, I appreciate hearing that!

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I just wish they made breast pads thinner or a different material that didn't show so much under shirts.

i agree! it makes me laugh that they all claim to be "no show" but they show like crazy through anything other than a baggy sweatshirt or thick sweater. i've heard there's something called lily pads that are more discreet under thin or clingy shirts? but i haven't really looked into it... just using the bulky disposable ones.

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Great job, gals! I started off BFing and supplementing with formula. Tay had a great latch, Avi had a learning curve. By day 10, however, by the time I finished one, the other was ready again (exaggerating a little). So now I'm pumping and giving them the breastmilk. I barely make enough for two yet, but we're getting there. My nipples hate me though...

Just stalking to see how you're doing, Meg! I wanted to mention that I also mostly pumped at first and it worked out so well for me. My guy is breastfeeding like a champ now, feeds are infinitely quicker, and -- who knew? -- it actually DOES get easier! (My girl can't latch but that has nothing to do with my mostly pumping at first.) Those 90-minute, back-to-back feeds were impossible for me! Anyway, you're awesome. That's it.

Oh wait! And Pumpin' Pals flanges saved my nipples with the endless pumping.

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Oh wait! And Pumpin' Pals flanges saved my nipples with the endless pumping.

Thank you, Sheila!! I'm totally going to buy those right now. My nipples feel like they're literally dead...

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Thanks, ladies. I've been pumping for the last 4 days and at this point, it's more like I'm supplementing with breastmilk rather than formula. I tried to nurse her again last night and was happy because she latched right on and everything seemed to be going great. But, I didn't hear her swallowing much. Shortly after her feeding she was being fussy again but a car ride (had to take Kayla to dance) put her asleep. Then I nursed her again when she woke up and she again wasn't swallowing much and became fussy. I decided to give her a bottle after the feeding and she CHUGGED it. Proof that my boobs are broken. Sad I'm calling my doctor today because I've heard and read that Metformin could help with milk supply (fenugreek is helping but it's still not enough obviously). This will be my last effort. If Metformin doesn't help, I'm giving up. Sad

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Heidi -

Just saw your question. I'm not sure if my PCOS is affecting it - I am pumping 3-6 oz every 3.5-5 hours. I think that's about right? It's good to know though b\c I have noticed I seem to be getting less (instead of more) as time goes on. As I was not planning on BFing, I haven't educated myself on good amounts.

I did talk to my doctor b\c I'm moving more and more to formula as I get closer to returning to work. And she said "formula with BF supplementing" is fine - they are getting the antibodies they need and the nutrients. She asked me to make it just six weeks. So I wouldn't worry if you are supplementing with BF. She's still getting SOME of your milk. Heck, if you had to just formula feed I'm 100000% positive she'll be just as brilliant and healthy as every BF child out there. Good luck!

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Thanks, Meg! See, that's what I feel like I should be getting out. This 1 oz. per boob/per session stuff isn't cutting it by any means. I know for a fact that formula babies are smart and healthy as my DH and his siblings are incredibly smart and hardly ever get/got sick. My daughter lasted 4 months on BM alone before switching to formula and she's an honor roll and twice principal's honor roll student. And my son lasted 2 months on BM alone before switching to formula and we just found out that he recently tested the HIGHEST academically in the entire 2nd grade at his school (super proud mommy moment!). Both kids are super healthy. Honestly, I think it's genetics that plays those rolls and not whether or not they had BM or not. DH is smarter than he knows what to do with and he was formula fed, and I was breastfed and suffered academically. I just feel like I'm letting her down because she's only 2 weeks old and I'm already having problems. I feel like I'm cheating her when I compare what the others had. I know I shouldn't compare but it's hard not to. You're right, though. Some is better than none. I'll keep going as long as I possibly can.

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Heidi- don't feel bad at ALL about the formula. Oliver is completely formula fed at this point. I breast fed him for the first 2.5 weeks but even then had to supplement because there was one day he was not producing ANY wet diapers or poop in the beginning and the pedi said nurse and supplement with formula because he was literally starving. I was crying because I couldn't believe I had let my desire to breastfeed cloud my judgement to the point where I was almost starving the poor boy.

To be honest, it was hard for me to open this thread because I have been forced to stop breastfeeding for medical reasons (I started chemo as I was recently diagnosed w breast cancer, also the reason Oliver was induced Mar 4th) and I so desire to do it. But the formula feeding is also a relief because anyone can feed him and I'm a little more free to pay attention to Karina, organize the house (we're moving soon) and just get online and take care of things.

Who is making you feel bad about feeding him formula?? I know breastmilk is best, but not if you're not producing, then formula is just fine! Trust me, I asked EVERYONE about this.

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To be honest, it was hard for me to open this thread because I have been forced to stop breastfeeding for medical reasons (I started chemo as I was recently diagnosed w breast cancer, also the reason Oliver was induced Mar 4th) and I so desire to do it. But the formula feeding is also a relief because anyone can feed him and I'm a little more free to pay attention to Karina, organize the house (we're moving soon) and just get online and take care of things.

Oh gosh, I'm so sorry!! I will definitely keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Thank you for sharing this with us and please come to us if you need anything. (HUG)

No one is making me feel bad other than myself. I do have a very pro-breastfeeding family, though. And my sister is a lactation consultant so I suppose that adds some pressure that I'm putting on myself. But the milk is just not there in the amount she needs. I tried to BF again tonight and the same thing happened. My sister said it's fine to take metformin but there are mixed reviews about it and I'm mixed about it now. I know formula isn't poison like some people make it out to be. Maybe I'm having more guilt because she's my last one and I wish I could do everything the way I planned.

The same thing happened with Emilie's diapers and when I found out she lost more weight after leaving the hospital, I broke down crying as well. Sad

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Heidi - My DH and I were both formula and we're doing just fine too. Smile Many kudos to your kids - congrats!!! I'm sorry you feel like you have to put pressure on yourself. Just remember that 20 years from now, this will be but a minor, minor blip on the radar.

Critter - you're in my thoughts and prayers!!!

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Critter I am SO sorry to hear about the breast cancer. Sad Can I be nosey and ask how you knew....did you have a lump you could feel?

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Thanks, Meg. You're right. Smile

The good news is that I took Emilie to the ped today and she is back up to her birth weight, exactly. WAHOO!! That is what was more important than anything. So now I'm going to keep trying to nurse her and supplement if she still acts fussy after eating. Fingers crossed!!

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Critter I am SO sorry to hear about the breast cancer. Sad Can I be nosey and ask how you knew....did you have a lump you could feel?

Hey guys,

My name is Cristina. Critterskunky were my 2 guinea pigs who passed away.

I've had a lump for a long time. I went to my OB long ago about it and when he felt it he sort of dismissed it and recommended an ultrasound, but it was for "reassurance." Since he didn't sound urgent, I didn't follow up. The lump never went away, but I just sort of neglected it, thinking it was nothing. A lot of the women on my April 08 birth board were getting things checked out recently, so I thought, what the hell, let me ask another OB in the practice. I asked her and she felt it and said get it checked immediately! I got a biopsy when I was 35 weeks pregnant and they immediately diagnosed me w Stage 2 cancer. That's why everyone wanted me to induce so early, to get started on treatment. They also thought being pregnant was making the tumor grow larger. I put off the induction until 37.5 weeks. And I also put off the chemo 1 week so I could adjust w Oliver a bit more, but I did start on March 20th. So that's the story.

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Hey guys,

My name is Cristina. Critterskunky were my 2 guinea pigs who passed away.

I've had a lump for a long time. I went to my OB long ago about it and when he felt it he sort of dismissed it and recommended an ultrasound, but it was for "reassurance." Since he didn't sound urgent, I didn't follow up. The lump never went away, but I just sort of neglected it, thinking it was nothing. A lot of the women on my April 08 birth board were getting things checked out recently, so I thought, what the hell, let me ask another OB in the practice. I asked her and she felt it and said get it checked immediately! I got a biopsy when I was 35 weeks pregnant and they immediately diagnosed me w Stage 2 cancer. That's why everyone wanted me to induce so early, to get started on treatment. They also thought being pregnant was making the tumor grow larger. I put off the induction until 37.5 weeks. And I also put off the chemo 1 week so I could adjust w Oliver a bit more, but I did start on March 20th. So that's the story.

Cristina, I am SO sorry to hear this news! I will be thinking and praying for you as you go through chemo. I can't imagine having to go through that when you have a newborn.

My sister had chemo, radiation, and surgery last year for a rare aggressive form of breast cancer, and she has now been cancer-free for about 6 months. It was such a hard year, but with plenty of support, she made it through and is now doing so well. (She also had a lump that the doctor wasn't concerned about and even the ultrasound concluded that it was just a cyst, but when it continued to grow, they finally did a biopsy and that's when they discovered it was cancer.)

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Cristina, I'm sorry that you are having to go through this. I will be thinking about you and hoping that everything goes as well as possible. That is amazing that you were able to carry to 37.5 weeks and even BF while that diagnosis was hanging over you. Super mom for sure.
Heidi, that is awesome about your kids testing so well. My oldest starts kindergarten this year and I can only hope that she does half that well. Smile
And this board is so awesome. My March '10 board had so many fights because people were very disparaging to the moms that couldn't bf, and also to moms that choose not to. I'm just happy that everyone on here really is so supportive of everyone's efforts.
Meg I really can't imagine bfing twins. That just has to be so hard on the body. One of my friends pumped exclusively for her twins and I just can't imagine that either! You twin momma's are made twice as tough! Smile
I hope everyone else is finding their rhythm. WTG lucky duck moms!

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"hopin2bpreggermeggers" wrote:

Thank you, Sheila!! I'm totally going to buy those right now. My nipples feel like they're literally dead...

Cool, I hope they help! And seriously ... 3-6 ounces??? WOW. I was getting 1-2 oz per 20-minute session at that point.

(And right now I just got barely 3.5 oz.)