Potty Trainging - This is soooo different

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Suzie-0225's picture
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Potty Trainging - This is soooo different

The boys were so easy to potty train, they were just older (right around 3 years) and we did the naked for 2 days at home and BOOM, fully potty trained.. Emily is a whole new challenge, and Im lost..lol

We started working with her leaning the "peepee & poopy" words and got her a smalll potty as she is deathly scared of the regular toilet (another polar opposite as the boys had NOTHING to do with a kid potty).. She will sit on the potty, but has no I guess sense on what the heck to do on it..HA So I put it in the closet and decided to wait till she was alittle older.

Well over the past 2 weeks she has started coming to us whenever she peepees or poops in her diaper and whine for us to change her.. I mean within seconds of doing it. Well now she has started stripping herself naked after she poops. Its so nice (:/) when she comes to me with her diaper and poop in hand.. UGH

So I busted out the potty (even tossed the poo in it) TMI sorry, but she still isn't "getting" it... Im conteplating doing the strip naked for 2 days like I did with the boys once they return to school next month, but I am totally open to any new ideas!!!!

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We're in a similar situation, Kaylin tells us when she needs a diaper change and has recently (like this week) told us when she has to go 'peepee or poopoo' but then refuses to sit on the potty. Her daycare is closed for a full week in August, I am going to use that week to take off and go completely diaperless in the hopes that she'll be potty trained by the end!

I am always open for tips Smile

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We did the whole "bottomless" thing and it took Addison a while to get the hang of it, but as soon as she got it she GOT it! I just now need to get my carpets shampooed!!! LOL

Rebecca, our daycare closes for a week in August also!

Good luck ladies.

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M&M's.......that's all I have to say! LOL They worked like a charm for Makayla. Everytime she would use the potty she got 2 or 3 mini M&M's.

With that also said, I tried it with Drew and it was a flop! But he's a boy too.

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Rach both my boys we did charts, m&ms, and shoot the cherrios in the potty and they had nothing of it. Did the butt naked thing and they had one poopy accident while naked and that did it...lol From then on they used the potty, even at night. Knock on wood, but we never had an issue with bedwetting doing it that way. Alot of my friends that used the pull-ups and other methods did great for potty training had lots of success, except for night wetting..

I think in Aug when the boys return to school I will be with you ladies on the but naked challenge.. Wink We should start a thread on that week to help each other through Smile

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Can you get the boys to “help out” now that they are older? Explain to them that if they need to go to the potty, they should take Emily too, and show her how to sit on the potty and poop and pee (yes tell them just for her to sit and pee on the potty, and only for a couple weeks). I bet she’ll get it immediately if the other kids were doing it and trying to teach her.

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Great Idea Sarah!! Emily wants to be with her brothers when they go potty. Now not so much. but she has picked up on some boy habits I guess you can say...she will pretend she pees like them..and even make the psssss sound. like she is peeing. I would keep the potty out. I know Emily likes to sit on her potty across from me when I am sitting on the pot! lol

Good Luck!!

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Ev is so hit or miss with wanting to usemthe potty. My MIL bought him a potty boom with stickers for Christmas and I took the stickers away until he peed in ins potty a few weeks ago. He pooped in it for the first time yesterday. He usually tells me as he is doing it in his diaper! I think a diaper less few days will be coming our way very soon so he can really get the hang of it.

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If G doesn't have a diaper on she will go in the potty, but as soon as you put underwear on she goes in those. She watches me go and we talk about wearing underwear and not diapers, but then she says "I love my diapers mommy!" when I tell her lets wear the underwear lol. She will also go naked for awhile only to throw a tantrum to get a diaper on. As soon as I give in she goes in it! So super annoying. If I wasn't so close to delivery I would take the diapers away and tell her they are gone bye byes now. I bet she would do fine with that to be honest. I just don't have the energy right now Sad and I'm scared she will regress when baby comes anyway since it's only 4 wks away!

I would do the naked thing personally. Smile

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Cooper has been doing well the last couple days. He is very agreeable to sitting on the potty when I suggest it, the problem is me not suggesting it often enough. I really do need to set a timer to remind me.

He gets an M&M when he pees, and he's been promised 2 if he poops, which so far hasn't happened.

We put the seat and insert from the potty on the big toilet seat, that's the way he likes it, and then he uses the rest as a step stool.

Last night he was so excited to dump the potty into the toilet that he spilled it on the floor! He's so funny, he'll say dump it, dump it mama, and he'll tip it into the toilet, then fush, fush mama, and he gets to flush.

Sierra was older than this, almost 3, and she just up and declared that she wasn't wearing pull-ups anymore, that she would only wear underpants. We had a rough couple of weeks with quite a few wet pairs per day, but she was trained day and night.

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I did the naked thing with Faith (which worked for my boys instantly) and it did NOT work for her. It was suggested to give her a doll and have her train her dolls. It was also suggested that it may be a control thing because she really really really seemed ready. And bam she was trained after doing both the doll and giving her control (meaning we just encouraged her to go when we went, but let her decide if she was going to go or not). She's been fully day trained for a few weeks now. Good luck.

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"AK2663" wrote:

If G doesn't have a diaper on she will go in the potty, but as soon as you put underwear on she goes in those. She watches me go and we talk about wearing underwear and not diapers, but then she says "I love my diapers mommy!" when I tell her lets wear the underwear lol. She will also go naked for awhile only to throw a tantrum to get a diaper on. As soon as I give in she goes in it! So super annoying. If I wasn't so close to delivery I would take the diapers away and tell her they are gone bye byes now. I bet she would do fine with that to be honest. I just don't have the energy right now Sad and I'm scared she will regress when baby comes anyway since it's only 4 wks away!

I would do the naked thing personally. Smile

To the bolded, we went panty less until about a month ago at home. So for about 3 full months, if we were home (with no company) the girls were naked on the bottom. They only wore panties at school or when we were out. They would often have an accidnet at home if they had panties on. I think it felt too much like a diaper. If they didn't have panties on, they would take themselves to the potty go all by themselves. We had two potties that we left right outside the bathroom (didn't want to leave the bathroom door open). It's been a little over a month now that they wear panties at home and they do good now. But maybe give that a try!

I'm a mean mother, we did the 1 M&M for pee and 2 for poo. But we used the mini M&Ms!!! And even those sometimes would take Brooke forever to eat! She would bite the candy off then eat the chocolate. After a few weeks of that, and having a hard time finding more mini M&Ms, we switched to yogurt bites! And they LOVED it! And it was healthier. Every once in a while they will still ask for one, but maybe twice a week.

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"Suzie-0225" wrote:

Rach both my boys we did charts, m&ms, and shoot the cherrios in the potty and they had nothing of it. Did the butt naked thing and they had one poopy accident while naked and that did it...lol From then on they used the potty, even at night. Knock on wood, but we never had an issue with bedwetting doing it that way. Alot of my friends that used the pull-ups and other methods did great for potty training had lots of success, except for night wetting..

I think in Aug when the boys return to school I will be with you ladies on the but naked challenge.. Wink We should start a thread on that week to help each other through Smile

The girls are great during the day and usually during nap, but night time they still are a little wet. When we originally tried to PT, we said NO diapers AT ALL. But that didnt' work. My goal is to have them dry by 3 during the night. I really think they get confused that they are "allowed" to pee during nap/bed but no other time. Hopefully the fact that they get really upset when they wake up and they are wet will help with this.

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You know my strategy-- I'm all for going full force.

The US and Canada is one of the few places in the entire world that waits to PT. China does it at 12 mos. India at 12 mos. South America. All of these kids are capable of managing it years before we even attempt it in the US. She can do it. You just have to be willing to commit to it.

Go for it. Get her naked and go full force.

As far as night wetting, I truly believe you can't "teach" that one. I say that bc Taya was totally dry at about 2 1/2 and in panties. Callie soaked herself every.single.night. until she was 5 and we used an alarm. Miles still wets himself most nights. And Lexi sleeps in panties and is always dry in the morning. WEIRD. I read once that it was a hormone that their body produces....not sure if that is true.

Good luck!

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I don't know if I believe that all kids are ready at 12 months!! Seems like a child would need to recognize that sensation of either needing to pee or poop in order to be ready. Regardless, I don't ming changing diapers for awhile longer. I don't need my baby to grow up too fast. Smile We tried with Liese for awhile, but she just wasn't interested so we've put it on the back burner for now.

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"GoVikes" wrote:

I don't know if I believe that all kids are ready at 12 months!! Seems like a child would need to recognize that sensation of either needing to pee or poop in order to be ready. Regardless, I don't ming changing diapers for awhile longer. I don't need my baby to grow up too fast. Smile We tried with Liese for awhile, but she just wasn't interested so we've put it on the back burner for now.

I know - 12 months! Wow, seems so early. But I suppose if depends on the motivation of the parents. I couldn't commit to doing that at 12 months, they seem like such little bitty's still. I am having a hard time thinking now at 2.5 that she is big enough to not be in diapers!!

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I had to come back and share this....lol

Em has been very good about telling us pee & poop after she does it, NEVER before..lol Today I took the kids to the splash pad and five minutes in Emily grabs herself and says "poopy, shewww nasty momma".. I take her over swipe a look and nothing. I think oh its just that her swimmer is wet and she thinks she peed.. I brush her off and walk her back to the water, were she tells me 3 more times "poopy momma" and I just shew her to play, that its ok.. So I sit down on the edge were I usually do and watch her and the boys play. A few seconds later I see her in the spray tunnel, SQUATTING.. Im thinking no she couldn't be, but I watch her.. The girl sits in there, spraying water hitting her face and everything, but I guess it was the most private place she could find b/c when I saw her face turn red I knew what she was doing.. So I go off in there and get her and we go to the bathroom for a change..

I can't believe she told me before and I didn't take her serious..lol And of all the places Em... geez Wink

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I know it seems crazy-- but human babies are like any other mammal-- they don't *want* to soil themselves-- but we teach them that it is okay to with diapers.

The US is one of the few places where we do this "wait til their ready" thing-- and it is perpetuated by diaper manufacturers IMO. If you go ask your grandmothers or great grandmothers or great aunts-- they will likely tell you the same thing. My great grandmother (turned 98 in May!) had 13 kids-- she says they were all totally trained by 18 months. My grandmother "only" had 5 kids-- and said the same thing......we just wait longer and longer to PT, but that wasn't the case just a generation or two ago.

I acknowledge that there are legitimate reasons why people wait-- many have kids in daycare and don't have support from their care providers. I get that. I'm just saying that we as a society need to acknowledge that it isn't the kids who aren't ready-- it is the parents. It is work, and it takes some dedication. And I will be the first to tell you that it is easier to leave them in diapers-- their bladders are the size of walnuts! But they are capable, and it is easier if you catch them before it becomes a power struggle IMO.

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Toe echo Boilermaker, even as a biologist, I never thought it strange that I took it for granted that "the sensation of pwwing and pooping" was something that is learned - well, until I thought about it and tried it with Elimination Communication.

I can tell you that with my 3, that they knew that they didn't want to pee and poop themselves from the very beginning. I was surprised, and then wondered why I was surprised since baby mammals, in general, live in a clean nest - not a poopy one.

I agree that it's hard work to take baby to the toilet constantly. I've done this for 3 kids!
But honestly, very few people do that, because the diaper company makes it easy not to! In my opinion, however, the savings makes it well worthwhile to toilet train as soon as possible.

I can say, however, that despite being more dedicated (or crazy) than most in this regard, the stubornness of Ivy has made it impossible for us to completely toilet train her. She is good most of the time, but still wets herself at night. If you try to take her at night, it turns into a screaming wrestling match, and everyonein the house gets woken up. Then, she'll refuse to pee on the toilet anyway because it wasn't her idea.

She is getting better, but I guess it will just take time. At least we know now that 80% of the time if she goes to thetoilet within a minute of waking up, that she will be dry. It's just a matter of getting her there in time!

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Ivy used to take a stuffed animal to the toilet each morning. She'd go after her bunny or kitty "went".
I agree, it is hard to wake up!

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Yeah, I'll be the first to admit that I'm on the lazier end with this child with not pushing things. She'll be our last so maybe it's a little bit of a pyschological hold back as well. Blum 3 Maybe we'll give it a go again a little later this summer before she starts a two day a week preschool program this fall.

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"GoVikes" wrote:

Yeah, I'll be the first to admit that I'm on the lazier end with this child with not pushing things. She'll be our last so maybe it's a little bit of a pyschological hold back as well. Blum 3 Maybe we'll give it a go again a little later this summer before she starts a two day a week preschool program this fall.

I think we have that psychological hold back too! Wink Grady is our third and last, so I am holding onto his babydom in all sorts of ways. I still refer to him as the 'baby', as in... "kieren, mimi, is the baby upstairs with you??" etc. I guess it probably extends to potty training as well, as I suspect I could have had Grady completely dry months ago - he's been interested and showing signs for a LONG time (climbing on and off the big toilet himself, taking off his pants and using the potty to pee on a regular basis with zero fanfare etc) but it's partly laziness, partly that psychological thing... I have all 3 kids home on 'winter' vacation at the moment.. no camps, no daycare, not much to do as the weather SUCKS.. so I really should have the time to do it as we're home quite a bit. I halfheartedly do it, leaving pants off, he's great at home most of the time, even poos, but the minute we go out I slap on the diaper and don't worry about it again. It's just easier. :rolleyes:

That said though, I really do think Grady is the most 'ready' at this age of all my 3. The other 2 fought it for the longest time and didn't train until 2 3/4 and just over 3. Then Mimi continued to wet at night until she was 5 3/4... so I agree, that night wetting is a different animal. Wink

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Kristen I agree, Ems the 3rd and baby and Im in really no hurry, but everyone and their mother is like "you need to be potty training".. or "girls learn faster, do it now".. UGH I think Im gonna try the butt naked fun when the boys are back in school, if she has none of it I have no problem waiting till shes closer to 3!!