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lets talk poop.

First of all, I'm sorry for my lack of posting. Life w/2 is way crazier than I thought it'd be! I'm hoping I'll get into a groove soon and be able to post more.

Miles has been potty trained since August. He still sleeps in a pull-up and I don't see that stopping soon as he (more often than not) wakes up with a super full pull-up. I'm not ready to stop giving him his bedtime snack which includes milk.

So he's literally just potty trained. He will NOT poop in the potty chair and it's starting to drive my dh crazy. We talk about it with him, tell him so and so (cousins/friends) poop in their potty, etc. He asks for a pull-up to poop. He won't ever poop when we're out of the house...he holds it until we're home and then asks for his pull-up. Slightly ridiculous? Probably.

I've tried cutting a hole in the pull-up and having him sit to poop in his pull-up but he won't. (The hole so he could see that his poop went into the toilet but still have the comfort of the pull-up)

I bought "Spencer" the talking Thomas train and have it in the package on a shelf in our bathroom. When he poops in the potty he gets to have Spencer. I've also been giving him a little bit of Miralax so it will be easier to come.

Anything else I should try?? Should I just give up? Thoughts?

Okay, that's enough about poop. You can go eat lunch now. Biggrin

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Hmmm. I have no suggestions on the poop. See how helpful I am? But just wanted to say that:

1) Sophia has been pottytrained for 1.5 years and she STILL pees her pants probably once every 2 weeks. Just for no good reason. I can guarantee she will pee her pants EVERY time we go to Jenn and Justins. We went there on Sunday and sure enough, after no more then 15 or 20 minutes her pants were soaked. I guess she has so much fun playing with Deacon she just can't bother to stop and pee in the potty. On rare occasion she will even pee her pants at home, and then quietly sneak upstairs and change her clothes and hope I don't notice. I'm on to her.

2) We are in the exact same boat at night and I feel no motivation to night-potty-train. There is no way she will get up, pee, and go back to bed on her own at night, and I don't see her holding her pee all night when she wakes up with a soaking wet pull up every morning. The girl loves to drink. She drinks and drinks and drinks and it would be like he!! to try to keep drinks from her for the whole evening. I have no idea what to do about this whole situation.

Anyway, just wanted you to know that even though I'm completely NOT helpful, at least you are not the only one dealing with potty situations. Hopefully that makes you feel the tiniest bit better?? And S is 3 months older than M.

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I was wanting to post about this too! EEK! We're having SUCH a hard time with Noah. He's completely pee-trained, even nights (last night he drank a full glass of water before bed and woke up dry--I can't even hold my pee through the night!), nap, everything. But poop--not even. And he started preschool last week, got moved up to the next class this week because he had no accidents last week. The class he's in now, they have to be completely potty-trained for. So what do I do now?
Even just last night--he was wearing underwear, eating dinner, I see the "poop look" on his face so I grab him and tell him he's got to go poop on the potty. He turned into a screaming meanie. He WILLFULLY refuses to sit on the potty to poop. That's what irritates the crap outta me. It's not like it's an accident--he's purposefully refusing to poop on the potty. And last night's poop was so horrible that I had to cut the underwear off him and put him in the shower. I let him sit in it for 30 minutes (because he refused to clean out his underwear) and it still didn't phase him.
He's pooped in the potty three times. We have tried a sticker chart, toys, t-shirts, calling everyone in my phone list to brag about it, making up songs, effusive praise, telling him that so-and-so is a big boy and poops on the potty, if you don't poop on the potty you'll have to wear baby diapers and go back to the baby class, making him wipe his own butt, clean out his poopy underwear--obviously nothing is working. I'll ask him in the car all the time--Noah, where do you go poop next time? On potty, he says. SO FREAKIN DO IT ALREADY!!! I am so, so, so irritated at this point and don't know what to do next. So Ashley, you're totally not alone. The latest bribe I told him last night was no more TV time AT ALL until he pooped in the potty. We'll see how that goes. He loves his Cars 2 movie a lot. I'm hoping it works.

P.S. Sorry I haven't been posting either--I lurk, but we don't have a computer at home anymore (working on getting one) and I rarely have time to post at work, so...know that I'm around, just can't really post.

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We started potty training Lyla last March, and she was in underwear full time in June. She would ask for a diaper to poop in. Uuuug! I hated it, since I knew she had full control. We would give her a diaper and she would poop immediately and get changed back into underwear. She has had a lot of poop issues, and was so scared to poop without a diaper. We even put her in school knowing they had to be fully potty trained. She was such a pro at holding her poop, we knew it would never come up at school.

When we got back from our Thanksgiving trip, it was like the light went on, and she started pooping in the toilet. She just had to want to do it her self. Now she is over the whole diaper thing, and thinks diapers are yucky.

It sounds like you have tried almost everything we did. Lyla really LOVED having a chart, that she could check off when she pooped. After talking to our dr at her 3 year appointment she had a good suggestion. She said have Lyla sit on the toilet 30 minutes after eating a meal, since that is when the greatest urge to poop will be. We started having Lyla sit on the toilet after dinner. We gave her a timer to hold, and set it for 5 minutes. When the timer went off, and she stayed on the toilet the whole time, she got a bribe, even if she didn't poop.

Good luck! It's really just them making up their mind to do it.

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Well, I'm glad we're not alone...lol.

Tisha, Miles is so good at holding his poop, too. And he asks for the pull-up, poops immediately, and then we put him back into underwear. He has *never* pooped on the toilet (Noah: 3 times!? Good job! Lol ).

He keeps telling me he wants that new train...so we go in and try to go poopy...and have some interesting things coming out of dh's and my mouth "squeeze out a toot" etc - lol - and still he just won't go. I know he has to go! A tiny bit is coming out, getting on his underwear...well, this is just nasty!!! He hasn't pooped since Saturday night, he's just holding it. I'm actually really surprised he hasn't gone in the middle of the night in his pull-up.

Ughhhhhhhhhh. He is our experimental child. He is our experimental child. I'll just keep telling myself that. Wink

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So when they hold their poop, do they then become constipated so that it hurts coming out? Or does that not seem to be an issue? This might be extreme, but what if you used a glycerine suppository? I have used them on Layla before. They are not harmful at all, they just make you HAVE to poop....either immediately or within 15 minutes. For Layla if she is constipated I put one up there and literally the poop comes shooting out into her diaper almost immediately (before I can even close it). I guess for her it just stimulates the rectum, which sometimes babies need in order to get their (firm) poop to come out. I have used them on me before also (TMI) for constipation and within 15 minutes you feel like you have no choice but to go. I'm sure he would HATE it but I'm wondering if you put one in and then made him sit on his potty and read a book, sing songs, etc (party in the bathroom)....if he could just poop ONCE in the potty, maybe he would see that it's OK and he could turn a corner?

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5501853_do-glycerin-suppositories-work.html

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It is not ridiculous, and it's really a timing thing. I rushed Kailee and it back fired badly. My pediatrician told me to let her be, at least she KNOWS when she has to go, and when the timing is right it will work, for us it happened by accident, she went to pee and poop came out and was so excited now I know the logistics with boys and the potty are different so I guess that won't work for Miles but it will happen in time. There really is no way to rush it which is why I haven't even attempted with Gabby.

Kailee held in her poop for so long (years) and it was cause she just wasn't ready to use the potty. We did poop in a diaper for probably an additional year from when she was potty trained to pee.

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I have no advice, but I know I'm going to have these battles with Andrew. So, please remember exactly what works for you guys so I can apply it to my kid when the time comes. Wink

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Carrie, Miles has almost always had poop issues. Ever since he became a picky eater anyways. We have to make sure he's eating raisins, fig newtons, prune juice, etc. to make sure it doesn't get too hard. He usually strains a lot when he has to go -- he often stands up or lays down to go, too. We've started giving him a tiny bit of Miralax in his beverages every now and then and that has helped a lot so he doesn't strain so much. And when he holds it, it doesn't make him any more constipated than he would have been otherwise. I don't know, he just has good control of his bowels I guess! LOL

Tonight...ugh. This is just gross. I put him on the potty chair about 30 minutes after dinner. In the livingroom, watching trains. He sat there for literally an hour and 15 minutes. I didn't make him sit there, he just wanted to watch trains that long. There was poop all over the back of the potty chair, all over him, on his shirt, it was just nasty. He just won't push it out. I finally gave him a bath, put him in his jammies and a pull-up, and well, I just hope he poops. He hasn't yet, but I'm guessing he will in the night. I give up. Spencer the Train can sit on the top of the toilet for 6 months if he has to. (((Did I mention I had to change his underwear 3 times today because the dang poop just wants to come out and kept leaving "skid marks"?))) GROSS!!!

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I can't believe he can still hold it in when it's that close to the exit!!!

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I'm sorry you guys are having such a hard time with pooping. When Deacon was being potty trained he would hid and go poop in the diaper. I stayed frustrated. Then when I finally got him to try the toilet he was constipated so it hurt him really bad. That was a big set back. Basically for him it took some tough love to get him to do it all the time. We would put the potty chair in front of the TV and I wouldn't let him get up until he at least tried to go. They say the poop is the hardest thing to train kids to do.

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YIKES!! We have been lucky that Z has no poop issues but I know that is a pretty common problem as I have heard other moms who had that. Sorry no advice! He obviously knows when he needs to, just wont do the potty.

We are NO WHERE near night training and that is just not a priority to me. He likes his milk at night, he is still in his crib so he can't get up at night. There are some days he is dry in the morning but they are few and far between. Right now, I would prefer the pull up to accidents at night!.

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Ashley another thing we did for awhile was just let her use a diaper. We were giving her miralax daily, and she would STILL hold it. We explained to her that she has 3 jobs, to eat, sleep, and poop every day. So when the evening came and she hadn't pooped, we reminded her she still needed to do her job. She would then wear a diaper and poop. The bad thing about it is, if they hold it and it hurts to go, it becomes a vicious cycle. If they get in a routine of pooping every day (even if it is in a diaper) they will eventually learn that it doesn't hurt to poop. If you can get his poop on a schedule for awhile, it gets easier to get them to go on the toilet.

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Miles sounds exactly like my LO. We've been battling poop for over a year now. My son gets Miralax (1T) every day. He still poops 1x a week, 2 is a dream. He will run to the potty saying he has to go, but once the urge hits him he stands up and clinches. He has thighs / butt muscles of steel. We have tried prizes, stickers, charts, treats... he knows he has to go on the potty. He knows when he has to poop. He just holds it. He was doing so great going on his own then regressed out of no where. Now we have to literally hold him down. Once he just relaxes, it comes out and he is instantly better. Just this weekend we told him if he didn't go by Saturday night, it was suppository time. Saturday night came, no poop, he fought and screamed he didn't want the medicine. So we told him to sit and push it out... and he did. Now it's Wednesday and no more poop. Tonight is a suppository night for sure...

I'd totally put him in a diaper if he'd go. He doesn't go in his undies, he doesn't go in his overnights. He just doesn't want to poop. He used to do skids marks pretty bad, but his butt muscles have improved I guess lol!

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"ShylahEQ" wrote:

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Miles sounds exactly like my LO. We've been battling poop for over a year now. My son gets Miralax (1T) every day. He still poops 1x a week, 2 is a dream. He will run to the potty saying he has to go, but once the urge hits him he stands up and clinches. He has thighs / butt muscles of steel. We have tried prizes, stickers, charts, treats... he knows he has to go on the potty. He knows when he has to poop. He just holds it. He was doing so great going on his own then regressed out of no where. Now we have to literally hold him down. Once he just relaxes, it comes out and he is instantly better. Just this weekend we told him if he didn't go by Saturday night, it was suppository time. Saturday night came, no poop, he fought and screamed he didn't want the medicine. So we told him to sit and push it out... and he did. Now it's Wednesday and no more poop. Tonight is a suppository night for sure...

I'd totally put him in a diaper if he'd go. He doesn't go in his undies, he doesn't go in his overnights. He just doesn't want to poop. He used to do skids marks pretty bad, but his butt muscles have improved I guess lol!

LOL!
1x a week?! Wow! That's gotta be uncomfortable...you'd think!

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This will definitely be TMI, fair warning:

Here's what I did with Jude that seemed to really help - although to be fair, he never seemed to have any issues with pooping on the potty, it just took him a bit to make the connection of how it felt to need to go.

I told Jude that Mommy had to go poopy, and brought him with me to the potty. I sat on the potty and said something like, "Jude, I need to go poopy. Do you know what I can do to help me go poopy? I can push push push! and out the poopy will come!" Then I made a pushing face and grunted a little, and of course - pooped. When we heard the plop in the water, I giggled and told him that was such a silly sound, which made him giggle. I think I probably did it again, and repeated the giggling. Then I told him I thought I was all finished, but was going to push push, just in case. I told him that even though nothing came out, it's still good to push push, and that's called trying.

So now when Jude's on the potty, we tell him to push push! to see if he has to go poopy. If nothing comes out, we tell him that's just fine, and of course if he does poop we make a big deal out of being proud of him. If I remember correctly, I took him with me to the bathroom a couple of times and did that whole routine. I even did it a couple of times when I was just peeing, but just so he could see what pushing looked like and understand that he won't always actually go poop every time he tries, but it's still important to try. Does that make sense?

...I can't believe I just admitted to the entire internet that I let my son watch me poop.

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"serwachic" wrote:

This will definitely be TMI, fair warning:

Here's what I did with Jude that seemed to really help - although to be fair, he never seemed to have any issues with pooping on the potty, it just took him a bit to make the connection of how it felt to need to go.

I told Jude that Mommy had to go poopy, and brought him with me to the potty. I sat on the potty and said something like, "Jude, I need to go poopy. Do you know what I can do to help me go poopy? I can push push push! and out the poopy will come!" Then I made a pushing face and grunted a little, and of course - pooped. When we heard the plop in the water, I giggled and told him that was such a silly sound, which made him giggle. I think I probably did it again, and repeated the giggling. Then I told him I thought I was all finished, but was going to push push, just in case. I told him that even though nothing came out, it's still good to push push, and that's called trying.

So now when Jude's on the potty, we tell him to push push! to see if he has to go poopy. If nothing comes out, we tell him that's just fine, and of course if he does poop we make a big deal out of being proud of him. If I remember correctly, I took him with me to the bathroom a couple of times and did that whole routine. I even did it a couple of times when I was just peeing, but just so he could see what pushing looked like and understand that he won't always actually go poop every time he tries, but it's still important to try. Does that make sense?

...I can't believe I just admitted to the entire internet that I let my son watch me poop.

Jen, thank you for your honesty! LOL! I've actually done something similar. And when I told Miles I was going to go poopy he said "Okay. You go poopy on the potty chair and then you can get me Spencer. Does that sound like a great idea?" LOl!

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Ha Ha...of course he did! That's so funny, and it sounds like you really have your work cut out for you with this pooping issue. I really wish I had more creative ideas, but it sounds like you've tried pretty much everything!