Considering stopping breatfeeding...

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Considering stopping breatfeeding...

Im considering going from beastfeeding to formula. I really don't want to but my milk seems to be toxic to my LO. Every evening from about 8pm - 12am he cries of bad gas pain. I've switched things in my diet, stopped dairy and nothing helps. When I was prego I had the same problem, I couldnt eat some food because it would give me awful stomach pains. Food I used to always eat, like red meat, soda, spagettii, milk.... All those foods and more made me sick as a dog while prego. I'm now thinking it's all do to my LO and his very sensitive stomach. It seems like whatever I eat it still makes him have gas or a crampy stomach. I don't want to keep putting him through this. Yesterday I tried formula for a day to see if it made a difference but I'm not sure if it worked cause I had to nurse him twice cause we were out and i ran out of formula. I feel like he needs a consistent diet and not the changes in my breast milk do to the foods I eat.
It brings me to tears knowing that the milk I produce is hurting my baby but I'm also in tears as I consider stopping nursing cause I love it so much...

Any suggestions???

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Have you checked with a lactation consultant? I have no idea but maybe there are supplements you can take to help digestion? Or that baby can take? There's gotta be something you can do to continue nursing!

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It takes at least a week for the milk proteins to leave your body. It's not right away. Hope your LO gets some relief.

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:openarms: I've found that for Gillian, gas drops have made a world of difference in her nighttime behaviour, she is still gassy but it doesn't bother her nearly as much. Remember that it can take up to two weeks for an elimination diet to make a difference. Ultimately, you have to do what is best for your entire family, and you are doing a great job so far!

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To truly know if eliminating dairy will help you need to eliminate ALL dairy for at least 2 weeks. You need to read labels and not eat any dairy at all for two weeks. I would definitely do that before stopping nursing. Also I would try to wait it out another month or so anyway...babies this little change so rapidly. Their systems are maturing and changing so fast.
also how would you feel if you switched to formula and it didn't help?
I would definitely contact a lactation consultant.

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From what I've read breastmilk is the most easily digested by a baby. If he is having gas pains and problems with feeding switching to formula can likely make it worse. I remember a few instances where mothers on my birth boards switched to formula and found out that their babies actually tolerated the breast milk better.

If you are enjoying nursing try talking to a LC to get some advice. If you're not enjoying nursing feel free to switch. Either way the important thing is that your baby is getting the nourishment that he needs. I just wouldn't quit if I was enjoying nursing, I'd try to figure out how to help in other ways.

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Ive had to cut out all dairy, even byproducts and processed foods containing dairy(like cookies, chocolate, baking mixes, salad dressings, etc) as well as tomatoes. Those seem to be what was bothering him and he was doing the nightly 8-12(9-1) screaming and fussy spell too.

It took a few days to see a difference, but there definitely is one now. We arent all better, but definitely better.

Im sorry you are struggling with this too, it makes it hard Sad

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I agree with all PP's.

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Immature Gastro System?

I read in a book called Baby 411 that sometimes babies have digestive issues due to an immature gastrointestinal system. They said that a lot of research is being conducted on probiotics. In a study, the probiotics were given to babies who were diagnosed as having colic. In a week's time, the colic had disappeared in all of them. This is, of course, one study. And it is still being investigated. They said that if parents are interested in trying probiotics, they should consult the baby's pediatrician to get correct dosage and the right probiotic. Anyway, just a little fyi.

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Have you tried gripe water? We did it for a couple of days and it worked great, but then Sophia's reflux got so bad that they had to prescribe her Zantac. The gripe water does work though! It just stopped working for us since her reflux was the big issue.

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Honestly, I have had the same thought about my milk and Zaylee's gas. I did my best to cut out dairy but it seemed like I would be inhaling my cereal (lol) and then I would remember that I wasn't supposed to have it. So, I tried the gas drops...they helped a little. Chamomile/peppermint tea worked wonders but I didn't wanna overdo it on the tea. Then we went to gripe water. It's been amazing!!! I think time also had a factor. I was using the water frequently but now I only use it if I know that I've eaten some crazy foods that day. And through it all I prayed that God would ease her tummy and let me get some sleep!!!!! Lol.

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"Majka" wrote:

Ive had to cut out all dairy, even byproducts and processed foods containing dairy(like cookies, chocolate, baking mixes, salad dressings, etc) as well as tomatoes. Those seem to be what was bothering him and he was doing the nightly 8-12(9-1) screaming and fussy spell too Sad

That's the exact time frame we are dealing with! (8-12/9-1) it's amazing that it happens at the same time every night! Even if something in my diet was causing this, wouldnt it take effect all day? Why is it just happening at night?

Yes ladies, I've tried gas drops and the gripe water. Sometimes the gripe water helps but most times not. I think I'll try elimination foods a little longer, I only did it a couple of days. I love nursing and I really don't want to stop!

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a lot of babies have a fussy period at that time of night. it's totally normal and I'm not sure that going to formula will change that. my formula fed daughter was fussy at that time, more so than my breastfed (and super gassy) little guy. I do agree with you that if it was something in your diet, it'd probably cause the gassiness/fussiness all the time and not just at a certain time of night.

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"ladyscott" wrote:

That's the exact time frame we are dealing with! (8-12/9-1) it's amazing that it happens at the same time every night! Even if something in my diet was causing this, wouldnt it take effect all day? Why is it just happening at night?

Yes ladies, I've tried gas drops and the gripe water. Sometimes the gripe water helps but most times not. I think I'll try elimination foods a little longer, I only did it a couple of days. I love nursing and I really don't want to stop!

Gripe water didn't work for us either.

And for the timing. I'm not really sure, but I bet there is a science behind it.

That said, last night for dinner I had a salad from chick-fil-a and didn't carefully pick all the cheese off it... I mean there was probably a teaspoon of shreds left... but at like 2am he projectile vomited right in my face while we slept... This would have been about 7 hours after I ate just a tiny bit of processed cheese... So obviously it isn't an immediate thing, it probably takes time for the proteins to get into your milk and maybe even time for it to concentrate enough to be an issue. He has been quite fussy today, more gas, difficulty staying asleep, and a lot more spitting. All over a few shreds of processed cheese...

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Wow! Sorry you had a rough night. My LO doesn't spit up at all, it just seems to be stomach cramps. My first DD was allergic to dairy and I had to eliminate it out of my diet. She had reflux and would projectile vomit when I ate any dairy. This lil guy's reaction to what ever he doesn't tollerate is way different.... I'm going to consolt my lactation nurse. Thanks again everyone!

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I second trying the probiotics. They can really do wonders! My pediatrician didn't really know anything about them, but our chiropractor recommended to help prevent my youngest daughter's ear infections. So far they seem to be working. Their first cold of the season this year went away in days instead of weeks!

They can also help with tummy and all kinds of other issues... yeast, ear infections, preventing sickness... the list goes on.

It is definitely something worth looking into if the other things that you're trying don't seem to be working.

Also, for what is worth both of my girls were fussy that time of day when they were really little. I found that swaddling and allowing them to cluster nurse did wonders. I think it has something to do with being over stimulated from the day. Smile

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The probiotics sound promising :). I agree with PP about BM being the easiest thing for babies to digest so formula may not be much easier on Shane. I hope going a bit longer without dairy works so you get to keep BFing!

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Yes, im going to try the probiotics! I've cut the dairy out of my diet so we'll see if any change comes soon Smile

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Definately stick with the BF, I can't see how going to formula would improve things since it's dairy based.

As for the elimination diets and foods that seem to cause gassy babies there is a lot of research out there that shows there is zero link between what mom eats and how baby reacts. I have never noticed any connection between food - baby but I could if I thought there was a link. I think it's a lot of mind over matter with this stuff... just eat a healthy diet and baby is fine. My OB and family doctor said there is no link between food and baby's reactions. It's normal for baby's to get gassy, puke, fussy, get reflux, etc.... some more than others. My son Kieran spit up ALL THE TIME, Clara wasn't too bad and Markus NEVER spits up. He's pretty fussy though and I find there is no connection with the food - fussiness at all.

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My twins have 'colic', well the fuss all.the.time!!!! We are on Zantac and I cut out dairy on Saturday. The only thing I have noticed is they are sleeping more during the day, but when they are up they still arent happy. I am going to look up some info on probiotics.

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