Sore nipples and sleep deprived

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Sore nipples and sleep deprived

But I'm loving it!! Smile Last night was really the first night I got some rest. It sucks being at the hospital and they constantly come in to take vital signs or lab work so being home is a Godsend. Sophia seems to have her own little routine going. She sleeps almost all day and I have to wake her up just to feed her. Then at night, she wakes up about every 1-2 hours to eat. Then starting at 3AM, all she wants to do is stay up and nurse. This last until about 5:30 AM when she finally decides to sleep. Nursing is definitely more challenging then bottle feeding, but I love it!! Just waiting for my nipples to toughen up because they really feel like they are about to fall off. LOL!

She goes for her first pediatrician appointment today because her bilirubin levels were high so they just want to re-check. Wish us luck!!

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I'm so happy everything is going well. As far as sore nipples, that happens obviously... But here's what I learned from last time. Used tea bags help reduce swelling. They make cold/warm compresses that can help. My favorite thing was the soothing gel pads but they don't make the brand I used last time. Sad Kind of bummed about that but I've got some other brands to try this time.

It will get easier. It is hard at times especially at first. But I swear it was the most special bonding experience ever. Smile

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Awww Congrats! DIdn't realize you had Sophia already! She is beautiful!!!

Good luck with her bilirubin levels-- DD had that problem when she was born as well. She was fine after a few days

BTW-- LOVIN Sophia's cheeks!!! Biggrin

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Yeah, I hate those hospital night stays. I'm so glad that this time I will be at the birth center and they let me leave 4-6 hours after the birth... unless of course I do give birth at night. Then they will let me sleep! Smile Anyway, I have found that even if you do not intend to co-sleep in the long run, that co-sleeping/bed sharing for the first few weeks is the absolute best way for babies to figure out their nights and days. When they are snuggled close and can just latch on the second they wake up, they eat and go right back to sleep. With my first she took awhile to get her nights and days figured out (I tried to make her sleep on a hard firm mattress in a crib... of course she hated it!), but after her I just slept with my babes and they never had an issue. We both got the sleep we needed!! Smile

Those first few weeks of breastfeeding can be a bit painful, BUT it does get better, so hang in there. Have you ever tried soothies (little gel things you put in your bra). They saved me with my first dd. Also, motrin can really help in the first couple weeks to keep the "inflammation" pain from being too bad.

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My second had her nights and days mixed up for about 3 nights then she was ok, hope Sophia figures it out. I could never do the co sleeping myself as I would not sleep at all for fear of hurting her lol I have the gel packs this time you put in the fridge for breastfeeding, have also heard cabbage leaves from the fridge in your bra works well Smile Good luck mine always goes well until my milk comes in lol Then all hell breaks loose. Kiss those adorable cheeks for me!

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I actually just took my gel pads out of the fridge and put them on. Oh my! It feels wonderful! Thank you to whoever invented those! LOL! I'm determined to stick with bfing and I have absolutely no formula in the house so I don't get tempted. I have been tempted to pump and give her a bottle, but they told me that it's best to wait 2 weeks before introducing a bottle so I'm holding off on that. My sister said that nipple shields helped her nurse until the soreness was gone so I may try those too. I am just so in love!

DS didn't know what to think of her at first, but he is so in love with her now. We have to remind him to give her some space because he is always right on top of her. I forgot to mention in my birth story a little funny with DS. My mom brought him into the room shortly after Sophia was born and the first thing he did was pat my stomach and say "mommy you can have beer now!" LOL! He really does listen to everything!

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Yay for the first "baby" centered post. This is too exciting.

I'm glad you are home & getting settled. I'm sure little girl will work her schedule out.

Great tip about the tea bags Anita. Might have to pick up some soothies to.

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So glad everything seems to be going well!

First, cabbage leaves are only for SEVERE engorgement, and if you want to dry up your milk. So stick to the soothie things if you need something. Also, if you do get engorged (when your milk fully comes in) get in a hot shower and hand express some.
Also, if she has a good latch, skip the shields because it might mess up her latch. Plus it can keep your supply down..they're really only good in a "last resort" kind of situation.

Yay for no formula in the house either! I really do think that's the best way to be successful at breastfeeding. Smile

I second the co-sleeping ... but if you aren't into it wake her up more often during the day to feed and see if that will help. It sucks to have to wake up a sleeping baby though.

She's absolutely adorable! Smile I hope you're able to get some rest today.

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So exciting to read a post about a newborn! This is just wild!
So glad things are going well for you. I didn't have those soothie things last time, but they sound fabulous! I'll have to pick some up for sure. Not having formula in the house is probably the best choice. It really does help to keep that stuff away if you're determined to stick with breast feeding.
Like someone else said, keep trying to wake her more and more during the day so help her with her days/nights. She's still so "new", so I'm sure you two will have if figured out in no time!!!
Love her cheeks as well and love the Steven told you that you could have beer. LOL. that's one to write down in a book!

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Sorry Annmarie but I have known several people to use cabbage leaves when sore and engorged and it has never affected there milk supply. Works in the same way as gel pads just cheaper. It is highly recommended here by midwives.

Love the new pic on fb Jen sooooo darn cute.

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Congratulations on being home!!! Thank you for posting this! I wasn't able to BF with DS so everything has been so informative here! I'm also not buying any formula ( or bottles for the first couple of weeks!) she is so cute and I'm so glad you guys are doing well!

P.S. Enjoy your beer!

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Congrats on being home! I'm sure she'll get days and nights sorted out quickly.

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"Dylemma" wrote:

Sorry Annmarie but I have known several people to use cabbage leaves when sore and engorged and it has never affected there milk supply. Works in the same way as gel pads just cheaper. It is highly recommended here by midwives.

Love the new pic on fb Jen sooooo darn cute.

I think they've bee very lucky then. Yes, for engorgement it works because it decreases your supply. For soreness I'd try something else though. I'd have to be pretty darn engorged (like seriously worried about mastitis) to consider it. You have to leave them on for very short periods of time too, and I'd be seriously afraid of falling asleep or getting distracted with a baby. Wink
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/mom/engorgement.html#cabbage

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I also agree from everything I have read and heard that cabbage leaves will decrease milk supply. Everyone that I know who has used them, used them to dry up their milk supply when they did not want to nurse.

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Congratulations on your successful breastfeeding story! I'm so happy for you! We'll have both formula and the .. mommy milk factory.. in the house for several reasons, the major one of which being that I never produced enough for DD, even trying ALL the things suggested, and seeing a lactation consultant several times a week. Things are unlikely to change, but even being able to give her some made her stronger! DD also was jaundiced and had to spend a night under the bili lights, but all turned out well. Keep us posted! Lanolin worked miracles for me Smile

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That all sounds good, except the sore nips of course. Wish I could give little Sophia a squeeze! Listening to your birth story and all just makes me ache to be holding my little Kai in my arms! I dont want to wait any more!

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I think I jinxed myself because we have been having issues today. She nursed really well before we left for her appt, but when we got home, I could not get her latched for anything. I tried for about an hour and she was just screaming because she was hungry so I ended up pumping and gave her a bottle. I tried again and still had issues, but was able to get her latched for a couple of minutes before she started screaming again. I gave in and bought a nipple shield and it seems to have worked. I'm going to try not using the shield next feeding because I have heard about it decreasing your supply and I heard its really hard to wean a baby off of it. I guess I'm hoping that it will remind her what my boobies are made for. LOL! I may be visiting the bfing board very soon!

Her appt went really well. She weighs 6 lbs. 4 oz., but of course they said it's normal to lose weight the first week or two. Her coloring looked great so they didn't even feel the need to check her bili levels again.

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Oh Jen, it's so frustrating when they're just screaming in your face. Good luck with the boob issues. She'll get it if you keep trying. Hugs to you & wee Sophia!

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I'm so glad you guys are doing well! Except for the sore nipples of course lol. My DD had her days and nights mixed up for a few weeks too, it was pretty annoying! My family always joked about how they had never seen her eyes :).

Consider using a dropper instead of a bottle to give Sophia EBM, just so there's no issue with nipple preference. Try to remember babies have good nursing sessions and bad nursing sessions at this point, even entire bad days sometimes. Staying calm and continuing to try is all you can do. Someone told me that with my first and I found it to be true :).

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I think I figured out what the issue was. My nipples are swollen and she can't get a good latch. I read some helpful tips on how to get her latched on flat or swollen nipples and it worked! Great idea about the dropper. I read that last night too. Will definitely do that next time!

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"jac81" wrote:

I think I jinxed myself because we have been having issues today. She nursed really well before we left for her appt, but when we got home, I could not get her latched for anything. I tried for about an hour and she was just screaming because she was hungry so I ended up pumping and gave her a bottle. I tried again and still had issues, but was able to get her latched for a couple of minutes before she started screaming again. I gave in and bought a nipple shield and it seems to have worked. I'm going to try not using the shield next feeding because I have heard about it decreasing your supply and I heard its really hard to wean a baby off of it. I guess I'm hoping that it will remind her what my boobies are made for. LOL! I may be visiting the bfing board very soon!

Her appt went really well. She weighs 6 lbs. 4 oz., but of course they said it's normal to lose weight the first week or two. Her coloring looked great so they didn't even feel the need to check her bili levels again.

About the nipple shield, I had to use one with DD last time. The lactation consultant fitted me for it. I didn't even realize I needed to wean her off the shield. One day I just got tired of cleaning it & popped by boob in her mouth & she latched perfect. Now with that said, I'm not saying it's that easy... maybe DD was a fluke. But if you need one then use it... you will figure out how to remove it later. Babies have to be weaned off of all kinds of stuff... bottles, pacifiers, thumbs, etc.

And, I know the crying can be frustrating. Don't let it get you discouraged. Try to look for the rooting signs & mouthing signs. Maybe you can catch her to feed before she gets too hungry. Then maybe she will have a bit more patience to deal with the swelling, etc... hopefully. Smile Always remember... they aren't going to wither away if a feeding doesn't go as planned. Babies are very resilient... Keep up the good work! Before you know it, you will be a pro at figuring out everything your DD needs.

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My milk came in today and she is latching great without the nipple shield. And all the nipple soreness has went away. Yahoo

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"jac81" wrote:

My milk came in today and she is latching great without the nipple shield. And all the nipple soreness has went away. Yahoo

Awesome news! Smile

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"jac81" wrote:

My milk came in today and she is latching great without the nipple shield. And all the nipple soreness has went away. Yahoo

:woohoo:

Congrats!!!

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"jac81" wrote:

My milk came in today and she is latching great without the nipple shield. And all the nipple soreness has went away. Yahoo

Congrats! Yahoo