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That is such a sad story Anna. Sad Makes me really appreciate what I have!

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

Does anyone else ever worry about "middle child syndrome?" I think part of my thinking is that it's better to go ahead and have that 4th so there are two middle kids. (And that makes me feel a bit crazy.)

I prefer 4 over 3, although I am not too worried about middle child syndrome. But I do think it is nice to have 4 so they can pair off. I think the main reason I want 4 is because that's how many were in both my and DH's family. Actually I would love even more, but time and finances are not on my side on that! Realistically we will be doing good if we get up to 4.

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My 2 pregnancies were totally different and mine were both girls, so you never know!

Yeah, I've tried to explain to people (read, DH's family) that 2 pregnancies being different doesn't mean anything as far as the sex is concerned. They are convinced that if you are sick a lot it means you are having a girl and if it you aren't sick it's a boy. Of course, that being they way it happened for me just confirms it for them. I still say just chance. But I'm still guessing a girl for Jackie, just because I think she needs a girl! And her DH would be so cute wrapped around the little finger of a cute little girl.

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Remember it was my husband who was hoping for a girl and was convinced I was having a girl last time! lol

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I prefer 4 over 3, although I am not too worried about middle child syndrome. But I do think it is nice to have 4 so they can pair off. . . Actually I would love even more, but time and finances are not on my side on that! Realistically we will be doing good if we get up to 4.

Ditto this.

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

Does anyone else ever worry about "middle child syndrome?" I think part of my thinking is that it's better to go ahead and have that 4th so there are two middle kids. (And that makes me feel a bit crazy.)

I worry about it but I also just don't understand it. I don't get why the middle child feels left out just because they weren't the first or the last. Way back when, when families were large, does this mean that in a family of 5 kids, the 3 middles all had "middle syndrome?" I kinda doubt it. I just feel like middle syndrom is a more recent development, maybe an idea that came about as 2 kid families became more popular. We treat our kids as individuals, so I just don't see how being a middle child could be so bad.

My DH's brother has middle child sydrome, but I think this is because my MIL went overboard in trying to compensate for being the middle. And he still whines about being the middle child, but it is obvious that he is the favorite. Even now MIL acts like the whole world revolves around him. And it has NOT been good for him. Of course, I think part of it is just his personality and he would have been that way regardless.

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Remember it was my husband who was hoping for a girl and was convinced I was having a girl last time! lol

I know I don't know your DH that well, but I bet he'd be a sucker for a little girl!

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i think because the oldest gets everything and gets to experience everything first, and the youngest gets babied.

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I'm not convinced that it's present in every family by any means. I think I worry more about 2 kids ganging up on the 3rd. Weather it's the first two, the last two, or the first and last. My mom was the last of 3 and she pretty much has "middle child syndrome" despite not being the middle child.

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I know I don't know your DH that well, but I bet he'd be a sucker for a little girl!

He totally would be! lol

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Anna, your mom's story is so sad. No, you would never get over losing 1 baby, let alone 3. It would just break your heart. Sad

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She never got over it, either. They were 3 in a row too. One of my uncles actually insisted the minister at my dad's funeral tell the story of the oldest of them. My parents didn't have a car and the baby girl was born too sick to go home, so my parents had to leave her there. A couple of days later my dad hitch-hiked back to the hospital to pick her up and found out she had died. They did things differently back then and my dad wrapped in in a blanket and took her home. But to get home he had to stand with her on a full bus for several hours to the next town, and then hitch-hike to another town and then hired someone to drive him the rest of the way back home. My mom said she already knew the baby wasn't alive, but her mom tried to convince her the baby was just sleeping when dad got home. I think that having gone through so much intense pain at such a young age made her as strong as she is and is the reason that she held up as well as she has with my dad's passing.

How heartbreaking. Especially since she couldn't even stay in the hospital with her Sad

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Yeah, I've tried to explain to people (read, DH's family) that 2 pregnancies being different doesn't mean anything as far as the sex is concerned. They are convinced that if you are sick a lot it means you are having a girl and if it you aren't sick it's a boy. Of course, that being they way it happened for me just confirms it for them. I still say just chance. But I'm still guessing a girl for Jackie, just because I think she needs a girl! And her DH would be so cute wrapped around the little finger of a cute little girl.

Isn't it funny how all those "theories" persist and everyone is an "expert" on your pregnancy because of them :rolleyes:

Yes, it would be cute for her DH to be wrapped around the finger of a little girl and that is exactly what would happen. My dd can do no wrong in her daddy's eyes and he has said he would love us to have all girls since she is so sweet and wonderful-of course if we have a boy in the future, he will be saying how wonderful boys are and how proud he is of his son!

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

I'm not convinced that it's present in every family by any means. I think I worry more about 2 kids ganging up on the 3rd. Weather it's the first two, the last two, or the first and last. My mom was the last of 3 and she pretty much has "middle child syndrome" despite not being the middle child.

This is really what I worry about more, them forming teams and leaving 1 out. But we are definitely not cut out for 4, so 3 is the most we could do.

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"BuckeyeK" wrote:

I think part of it is just his personality and he would have been that way regardless.

I agree with this. There's 5 in my family. Technically my sister is the 'middle' and she's weird, but we all are in our own way. I think somewhere along the way (likely when the 2 kids thing became the norm) somehow those characteristics were highlighted in middle kids. Really though, I've thought about it since you first mentioned it a while back and, you could put any one of the 5 of us in the middle and point out different characteristics as 'middle syndrome'.

DH is the youngest of 3, and his family might argue his middle sister has middle syndrome, but if you put his oldest sister in the middle, they'd say she had it because she is the bonefied crazy one!!

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"AnnaRO" wrote:

I know I don't know your DH that well, but I bet he'd be a sucker for a little girl!

There is just something special between daddies and little girls Smile My DD1 is head over heels for my DH! lol DD2 is a mommy girl for now, but I know I'll lose her to him eventually

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Really though, I've thought about it since you first mentioned it a while back and, you could put any one of the 5 of us in the middle and point out different characteristics as 'middle syndrome'.

Excellent point!

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I think I'm going to go lay in bed and wait for our nightly battle for sleep to begin.

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"BuckeyeK" wrote:

This is really what I worry about more, them forming teams and leaving 1 out. But we are definitely not cut out for 4, so 3 is the most we could do.

I wouldn't use that as part of your rationale. You could have 2, 5 or 10 kids and you'll have that issue. With 5 it was me and my brother that were a team for some time, then it was my brother and middle sister, then my middle sister and youngest brother. At one point or another we paired off differently. One time a pair were best friends and then a week later that same pair would do nothing but fight. That's just a part of it, I think.

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I can't wait for the day where you announce that she's been STTN for a month. Biggrin

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I think I'm going to go lay in bed and wait for our nightly battle for sleep to begin.

Good Night! I hope you get some sleep!

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I can't wait for the day where you announce that she's been STTN for a month. Biggrin

I can't even imagine it! I'm supposed to go to a conference at the end of may and I'm dreading it because I don't want to be away from my kids. But then I started fantasizing about 3 nights of uninterrupted sleep, and suddenly it's sounding better and better....I still don't want to go though.

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

I'm not convinced that it's present in every family by any means. I think I worry more about 2 kids ganging up on the 3rd. Weather it's the first two, the last two, or the first and last. My mom was the last of 3 and she pretty much has "middle child syndrome" despite not being the middle child.

I agree- with 3 kids there is always 2 against one so someone is always left out if there is an argument or taking sides. But it may not always be the middle child necessarily. And it may not be a big problem in every family. There was a 7 year gap between my last two sisters so my brother was the middle child for a long time but I don't recall us ganging up 2 against one in any configuration. I mainly recall picking on both my youngest sisters when they were young enough to be annoying but not old enough to really play with. As we grew older we all became really close.

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There is just something special between daddies and little girls Smile My DD1 is head over heels for my DH! lol DD2 is a mommy girl for now, but I know I'll lose her to him eventually

My DD is going through a mommy phase at the moment too, but she was being a daddy's girl for quite a while and I suspect she will be going back to that so I am enjoying my momentary reign in popularity!

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I think I'm going to go lay in bed and wait for our nightly battle for sleep to begin.

Good luck, I hope she lets you get some rest.

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I was just getting ready to head upstairs and saw that they are releasing Titanic back to theaters. Am I the only sap that just loves Titanic? lol

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Yes, it would be cute for her DH to be wrapped around the finger of a little girl and that is exactly what would happen. My dd can do no wrong in her daddy's eyes and he has said he would love us to have all girls since she is so sweet and wonderful-of course if we have a boy in the future, he will be saying how wonderful boys are and how proud he is of his son!

MIL talks about her pregnancies as if they happened yesterday and in more detail that I can remember with my pregnancy with Lyla even! Um, yeah! Right!

When we were pg the first time, DH kinda felt a sense of loss when we found out it was a girl, as he had his heart set on a boy. He got over it quick and after Lyla was born, he decided he wanted all girls because he likes her so much. Of course, he's delighted to be getting 'his boy' now. But I told him this one is mine. He has his girl and she looks like him and follows him around everywhere.

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I can't even imagine it! I'm supposed to go to a conference at the end of may and I'm dreading it because I don't want to be away from my kids. But then I started fantasizing about 3 nights of uninterrupted sleep, and suddenly it's sounding better and better....I still don't want to go though.

You better go and enjoy some sleep! I know it would be awfully hard for me to be away from Aiden (never have been separated from him longer than a few hours), but I think even I would welcome the break and distraction.

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When we were pg the first time, DH kinda felt a sense of loss when we found out it was a girl, as he had his heart set on a boy. He got over it quick and after Lyla was born, he decided he wanted all girls because he likes her so much. Of course, he's delighted to be getting 'his boy' now. But I told him this one is mine. He has his girl and she looks like him and follows him around everywhere.

It's funny, DD1 has my middle name and looks just like DH. DD2 has DH's middle name (yes, his middle name is Lauren) and she looks like me.

Hopefully Kole will be your mini-me! Of course, moms and little boys have that same special bond, so that will be nice even if he looks like the milkman! lol Wink

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I was just getting ready to head upstairs and saw that they are releasing Titanic back to theaters. Am I the only sap that just loves Titanic? lol

It's in stupid 3D which I refuse to see! I'd see it otherwise. Smile

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You better go and enjoy some sleep! I know it would be awfully hard for me to be away from Aiden (never have been separated from him longer than a few hours), but I think even I would welcome the break and distraction.

I get extremely anxious just thinking about it! I have only spent 3 nights away from DD1 and none away from DD2. And those 3 nights I at least had DH with me so I could handle it. I really don't know if I can do it, and I'm going to be in trouble if I don't.

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It's in stupid 3D which I refuse to see! I'd see it otherwise. Smile

I know, I hate 3d! Titanic is my "sick" movie. When I get really sick, I lay around and watch Titanic. Smile

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Ok, I really am going to bed. Good night, all! Or at least I hope it's a good night.

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"AnnaRO" wrote:

MIL talks about her pregnancies as if they happened yesterday and in more detail that I can remember with my pregnancy with Lyla even! Um, yeah! Right!

When we were pg the first time, DH kinda felt a sense of loss when we found out it was a girl, as he had his heart set on a boy. He got over it quick and after Lyla was born, he decided he wanted all girls because he likes her so much. Of course, he's delighted to be getting 'his boy' now. But I told him this one is mine. He has his girl and she looks like him and follows him around everywhere.

Yup, you get this one (unless he is giving you a hard time with sleeping, then you can tell DH he is all his for the moment!)

My dd totally looks like her daddy and she also copies a lot of his mannerisms which is totally cute!

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DH is home from work and I need to get to bed so heading off. Good night all!

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My son is my husband. Minus the eyes. The eyes are mine. lol

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Night! Glad you joined us! Biggrin

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Seriously?! I eat dinner and put the kid down and you guys get all chatty. No fair!

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I pick up your slack on the drinking but I try to only drink on the weekends. Wink

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I pick up your slack on the drinking but I try to only drink on the weekends. Wink

ROFL

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Teagan went down early tonight. I noticed that the light level in her room is going to be a problem as the days get longer. I'm going to need real curtains for her room. All we have in there right now is cheap white blinds.

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Boo! I've been wondering about the light myself. It wasn't an issue last summer at all, but may be in this house. I'm really hesitant to put up curtains again, because DS pulled down his rod one day last year when we had curtains in that room!

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"TiggersMommy" wrote:

I pick up your slack on the drinking but I try to only drink on the weekends. Wink

Well, right now you have 3 of us to pick up slack for! You may have to expand your 'weekends'.

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Seriously?! I eat dinner and put the kid down and you guys get all chatty. No fair!

I wondered where you disappeared to!

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Oooh, I hadn't thought of that!

Light wasn't a problem for us last summer either. She was still in our room and our room is on the north side facing the backyard. Her room is on the south side facing the street. She also kinda slept through anything up until recently.

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Aiden has been getting up with the sun recently. Thankfully DH settles him back down by just turning his classical music back on. Aiden really isn't ready to be up that early! Of course he's not going down to bed till at least 9pm most nights. :roll:

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I made double-layered curtains for Lyla's room. Her window faces east when we first moved her to her own room it was a nightmare getting her to nap in the mornings. After I made the curtains, it was dark enough in there for her to nap better. I swear it still helps. She's just like her daddy, and has to have complete darkness to sleep.

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Would it be completely ghetto for me to put paper on his windows? I mean, it would be behind the blinds so harder for him to tear down than curtains. lol

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

Boo! I've been wondering about the light myself. It wasn't an issue last summer at all, but may be in this house. I'm really hesitant to put up curtains again, because DS pulled down his rod one day last year when we had curtains in that room!

The windows in our house are on the top half of the wall, so I made her curtains to where they only reach the bottom of the window and not to the floor, so she can't reach them yet. Otherwise, there's no doubt she'd yank on them until they came down.

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Yeah, Aiden's windows there and here are both too low for that.

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