Corporal Punishment in School

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TiggersMommy's picture
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Corporal Punishment in School

A piece on NPR just now got me thinking. Does your school district use corporal punishment? Are you aware that you may not have legal recourse against your child's school if they paddle your child even if you've submitted a waiver from paddling? How would you react if your school called to tell you they'd just paddled your child?

Arizona does allow corporal punishment but its rarely used. I can't find specific info for my school district but it seems that they don't use it. I went to an elementary school in NM that used paddling HEAVILY and I think its part of why I don't personally use corporal punishment (the image of that paddle hanging in my principal's office is still too vivid). Since you all know I'm of the AP variety, you can probably imagine how I'd react if my child were paddled. You cannot even comprehend the sheer magnitude of fire and brimstone that would come raining down.

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Uh, yeah. Fire and brimstone here too. Thankfully, I have never heard of that in this city at least, and I know teachers in pretty much every type of school there is here.

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They do not do that here thankfully. I would be so pissed I would either private school/home school if something like that were to happen to my kid.

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I wasn't aware that it was legal anywhere, any more. I'm pretty sure it's not legal in my school district. There are plenty of kids I went to school with that probably would have been paddled, had it been allowed.
Theoretically, I'd react calmly at first. I'd want to find out the details about why it happened. Then I'd present them with a bunch of research showing how corporeal punishment isn't effective. Then I'd go crazy and it would likely end in transferring my kid to a different school.

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See, I think I'd have a polar opposite ordering in my response. I would freak out and threaten to kill every one in sight, then I'd remove Teagan from the school, then I'd pester them with endless amounts of research and pressure, then I'd accept it and be calm.

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"Newlywed630" wrote:

They do not do that here thankfully. I would be so pissed I would either private school/home school if something like that were to happen to my kid.

Here either. I know that our school district here doesn't utilize it at all. The school I went to as a child did use it, and I was paddled twice, and my parents were never contacted before or after. There's actually a long story to that.

I honestly don't know how I would react. I thing that schools and teachers should be allowed some sort of disciplinary action (teachers are pretty powerless in the classroom), but when it comes to paddling kids I don't think the school should be allowed to make a decision on what warrants it. Even if parents use it at home they might have different parameters on what necessitates a 'spanking'. That said, I think I'd be pretty pi$$ed.

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no, it's a huge no no here and there would be a big uproar. i don't think they have had anything like that since my mom was a kid...

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No idea about the local distract here. But I wouldn't ever send DS to the schools here because they're awful academically.

And yes, I'd go bat crazy. NEVER EVER okay.

My husband was paddled a few times in Catholic schools growing up. Though they did have written permission from my ILs to feel free to beat him at any time. Blum 3

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I didn't realize this was still legal anywhere in the U.S. I would not be ok with it. I don't have a problem with parents spanking on occasion, but if my child warrants a spanking, I better be the one to give it, not someone else, no one else has any business to do that. I have pretty strong feelings about this because I was spanked by my babysitter once when I was young enough to still be in diapers. It didn't hurt that I recall, but I hated her for years after that-didn't remember her name or her face but I remembered the sense of injustice I felt- she wasn't my parent and she didn't have the right to spank me. Obviously it made an impression since I never forgot about it!

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I had no idea that was legal anywhere still. I've never heard of anyone around my age or younger ever being spanked anywhere around here and I have no doubt I would have heard about it. It's beyond me why that's still legal anywhere in the US. For the record though, if my child were spanked I'd be ballistic, no one touches my children...EVER! My mom popped DS on the hand once and has never touched any of my children ever again because I freaked out so bad about it! And that was my mom LOL, I'm sure an acquaintance spanking one of my children would elicit a response from me that would require jail time.

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It's still legal in 19 states!!

It boggles my mind that its illegal to use corporal punishment against prisoners but its perfectly fine to use it against children. How, in this day and age, is it OK to paddle a child until he/she has a broken tail bone, internal bleeding, and horrible welts?

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Here is what the local school district has in it's Student Code of Conduct - good to know, thanks for bringing this up, Erin.

Corporal Punishment
Corporal punishment has been approved by the SAISD Board of Trustees as an appropriate
disciplinary consequence for Code of Conduct violations. Corporal punishment shall be limited to
paddling the student and shall be administered only in accordance with the following guidelines:

1. The student will be told why corporal punishment is being administered.
2. Corporal punishment will be administered only by the principal or assistant principal.
3. The instrument to be used in administering corporal punishment shall be approved by the SAISD 2012 – 13 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT 7
principal or designee.

The District shall honor a parent request that corporal punishment not be administered to his or her
child; however, the District shall impose other disciplinary measures consistent with the offense.
Parents must inform the campus administrator in writing at the beginning of the school year if they
do not want corporal punishment used with their child.

The disciplinary record of any corporal punishment shall include any previous disciplinary actions,
the name of the person administering the punishment, the names of witnesses present, and the
date and time of punishment.

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Nowhere in there does it say they have to notify you before they impose corporal punishment. If that's not a good reason to give your kid a cell phone, I don't know what is.

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If anyone is curious, I found these stats from 2008: Corporal Punishment in Public Schools, by State — Infoplease.com

I'm not really surprised that the number of students hit trends larger in the south. I can remember getting spanked once in first grade for writing on the wrong side of a piece of paper (yes, I was a very very bad kid). That was in Tennessee.

Erin, I don't know what school district you're in, but neither TUSD nor Amphi allow corporal punishment.

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Thanks for the link! I can't say Im' surprised to see the higher numbers in the south either....*sigh*

Interesting find for NC. http://www.ncchild.org/sites/default/files/Corporal%20Punishment%20in%20the%20Public%20Schools_A%20Practice%20on%20the%20Decline_Final.pdf
Can't find anything specific to the local district though.....

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Well, since it's specifically not allowed in our district and statewide even though it's legal less than .1% of kids get it, I guess we don't have to worry too much here. Mississippi, though, GEEZ. Glad we got out of there before I was school age...

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I think it's illegal here now as well. It was still enforced when I was in elementary school. I never did have it used on me.

Madison's daycare does do time out but I've been there when they've called that on a couple of kids and I think it was a very good choice. Time out doesn't bother me, but no one better lay a hand on my baby,