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I talked to the dr a week and a half ago when DS had his weird mouth rash about my supply issues. The calcium and magnesium supplement that I'm on is made as one pill by a local pharmacy (some sort of new machine they got a couple years ago that combines pills or something like that), so the NP and I went over the amounts my dr had me taking. She said it probably wasn't enough to combat this particular problem if this in fact is the problem. So, she called the pharmacy and had both amounts upped, but I'm afraid it was an attempt that was wasted. I finally got AF and that usually helps alleviate some of the problem and then it's just a matter of increasing my supply back up to what it should be. There's nothing, I am completely dried up. I've been having her latch on (like every hour and a half) and I've been pumping like crazy, nothing, not a drop. I guess I put it off too long. I was even going to keep taking the supplement and pump in Mexico cause I got a little excited about being able to fix the problem. I'm not over the top upset, but I did let myself get a little hopeful so I'm a little sad now.

It's okay though, it's something that I will definitely keep in mind if I ever do become pregnant again. I also found out that my BFF who dried up around 5 months pp had thought her supply was getting all wonky around her cycle times and had no idea that this was even a possibility so it's one of those things I'm going to put in the information storage in my brain for future reference for others.

Erin, I was talking to my LC and she said she hadn't even thought to ask what amount I was taking, and I only thought to ask her because I got it from that link you gave me. So, thank you for looking up all that stuff for me. I knew about it being a problem, but until then I hadn't thought about it being more specific to the amount your taking.

She's already turned into a completely different child. She is my HAPPY baby once again. I don't know how long this supply issue has been going on, but I'm going to guess since she was about 4 months old cause that is when she just turned into a very unpredictable baby (and her weight started becoming an issue). She was happy for a while, then unconsolable for a time. Now, she's happy....all the time. She's even started doing some of the things, like sitting up and playing, that she hadn't been doing or showing interest in.

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You did amazing to BF for so long with supply issues! I hope you're able to take this info and help others in the future who face similar issues. I'm really glad that you're getting your happy baby back. That's what most important!!! And yay for being able to go to Mexico without worries of pumping. lol.

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You did do a great job!! I have heard AF can make things get a little wacky but you still stuck with it.. Im glad you wont have to worry about pumping when you are gone and can enjoy yourself fully!

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WTG BFing for as long as you did with supply issues! I'm so glad you figured out what was going on and will again have your happy baby back.

So you have to clarify for me, was it the calcium or magnesium that was the issue? Maybe both? Or lack of them? Or was it more due to AF?

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WTG BFing for as long as you did with supply issues! I'm so glad you figured out what was going on and will again have your happy baby back.

So you have to clarify for me, was it the calcium or magnesium that was the issue? Maybe both? Or lack of them? Or was it more due to AF?

Here is the part on Kellymom that Erin found for me that explains it better than I can

Low milk supply associated with menstruation: Calcium/magnesium supplement

Some women experience a drop in milk supply from ovulation (mid-cycle) until the first day or two of the next menstrual period. A woman's blood calcium levels gradually decrease during this period of time, and for some women the drop in blood calcium causes a drop in milk supply. For women who have this problem, calcium/magnesium supplements may be helpful. This practice has also been reported to eliminate most uterine cramping and some premenstrual discomfort such as water retention.

The recommended calcium supplement dosage is between 500 mg calcium/250 mg magnesium and 1500 mg calcium/750 mg magnesium (the higher dosage is generally more effective). Calcium dosages this high should not be taken alone, but as a calcium/magnesium (or calcium/magnesium/zinc) combination. Otherwise the calcium will not be adequately absorbed into your body. The amount of supplement depends on the composition of your diet -- the more animal protein, the more calcium/magnesium needed. If you are a vegetarian or vegan, the lower dosage may work fine for you.

Start the supplement when you ovulate, and continue through the first few days of your menstrual period. If periods are irregular, then begin calcium/magnesium at 14 days after the beginning of your last menstrual cycle, or simply take the supplement every day.

The thing is though that I am already on calcium and magnesium supplements and have been since I was pg with DS. My dr thought I needed them because I'm not a dairy person (no milk, some cheese) and he was concerned about my lack of calcium. It's something he likes me to stay on, whether it's necessary all the time or not, who knows, it makes him happy and keeps him off my a$$ about not drinking milk. Anyway, my LC consultant knew I was on supplements already so didn't mention this at first to me, I found out just about a month ago this can be a problem. When I talked to the NP, she said that I wasn't on a high enough dose for it to fix this if indeed this is the problem. So the day of DS's appt I got a higher dose, hoping to fix it, but I'm pretty sure it was too little too late.

My supply dropped every month for about a week and a half and then we worked for another week to bring it back up. I think we just didn't figure this out in time cause for the last week I've been pumping like mad and feeding her like crazy and nothing, not a drop.

The thing is though that DS self weaned really early, around 10 months old, and really hadn't been nursing like she does from about 6 months on. I just assumed that she was doing the same as him. When her weight was down at her 6 month appt I thought, well, maybe there's a problem and started talking it out with my LC friend. But when your supply is fine for a portion of the month and then tanks and then comes back, it's hard to explain it to people. I didn't even know what was going on at first. I thought maybe it was that one bottle DH had fed her or maybe she was just being fussy that week. So, it's taken me until now to know that YES there is a problem. Well, now it's too late. It took me (and my LC) so long to realize that I wasn't being crazy and that my supply was in fact dropping based on my cycle. Oh well, like I said, it's something I'll know if I ever need to pass that info along. I wonder how many times this happens. Like my BFF who dried up around 5 months pp, was she drying up every month she had her cycle and little by little just couldn't get back up to normal after every one and then it finally just crapped out. I don't know, but that's how it's felt for me. Like, every month it has just gotten worse and worse. I spent the first month scratching my head, the second month actively wondering, the third a little frantic but going in circles and now that I know, it's too late.

Okay, now I'm rambling. DH is gone again tonight so it's just me and my psycho little puppy and the NOT BEHAVING for a SINGLE MINUTE 3 year old and Clara tonight......did I mention....AGAIN!!

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:bigarmhug: i'm glad your happy baby is back!

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Thanks for sharing all the info about that. I've never heard about it and I bet there are others that go through the same thing and never even know what is going on. I'm so sorry you were not able to get all the info sooner and up the doses to see if it helped. I can imagine sad about the whole situation. You still did a great job though going all that those months with the up and down. I'm filing all the info you shared in case I ever need to pass it on.

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[QUOTE=jolly11sd]WTG BFing for as long as you did with supply issues! I'm so glad you figured out what was going on and will again have your happy baby back.[QUOTE]

What she said! Biggrin

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((HUGS)) You did a great job!!!!

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hugs to you!

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Great job on nursing for so long with supply problems. Glad your happy baby is back and you get to enjoy Mexico without any stress of pumping as well.

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:bigarmhug: You're an awesome mom and an awesome woman, Christa. I often take for granted how easy it has been for me to BF. To BF as long as you did with supply issues is an extraordinary feat. You rock.