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The Parent Led Potty Training Thread

This is for the moms who are wanting to do parent led potty training. Please respect this point of view by offering support and help if you choose to post. Smile

The following is from the chat thread. Thought we'd move the convo over here. Smile

"AnnaRO" wrote:

So, I'm trying to start potty training Lyla. I'd like to have mostly out of diapers by the time #2 arrives in early April, but I realize that may not be realistic. I've been at this for 2 hours and I'm already worn out and exhausted from trying to get her just to even pee on the potty one time. So far nothing yet.

Does anyone have any tips and tricks for getting a toddler to even go on the potty? One time I had her on there and then when I took her back 10 minutes later she'd already peed in her panties. I'm already ready to give up and call it impossible.

"alwayssmile" wrote:

(Yogi is a military wife from a forum I'm on.)

Yogi?s Amazing Potty Boot Camp

The book I read was potty training in 1 day. There are versions written by different people. But they are the same basic principle. It is completely parent led potty training. And it focuses on training your child. Some parents don't believe in training a child but kids have very few natural behaviors. They have to be taught or trained to do most everything.

Opponents of the book and method say it targets a child too early. They also say children are not puppies and therefore don't need to be trained. I don't have a problem with the word usage if it means I don't have to change dirty diapers. But I respect a parent's right to choose the method they feel is best. For my children this was the method that was best simply because I said it was, lol.

So I mean no disrespect to anyone or his or her parenting when discussing this method. It is one of many methods and it is the one I used and am well versed in. I can only offer my opinions about this method. Since I was asked about it I will gladly provide any information, support and personal experience.

First of all they have to be able to walk. The sooner you potty train the easier it is. As far as verbal skills they were still pretty limited when we potty trained. So I will just let you know what I did. Did you know that prior to the mid 70s the average age for potty training was 15 months?

We used cloth diapers so they knew early on when they were wet or soiled. Disposable diapers and pull ups are the devil in potty training. I always chose a weekend when we could be at home the entire weekend. Bought lots of panties, underwear or cloth training undies. I gave them lots of water, lol. Every 10 minutes a trip to the bathroom or when they had an accident. Then after the first time they use the potty chair they just kind of get it. No verbal skills needed. I gave them a piece of fruit or candy (depends on the child) after they sat down each time. With the panties or undies they feel wet and don't like it. Once they use the potty the first time add 5 minutes to the schedule so its 15. Then each time you can add a few minutes. Potty training at a young age requires the multiple trips to the potty since they don't yet know about the urge. At night they slept in panties/undies with plastic covers (the old fashion ones). This is very important. After a few times going potty they recognize the urges. I always made sure as soon as they came to me I took them to the bathroom. At a young age and early in the training they don't give you much notice. Be ready to clean up a few messes. Have some books or toys handy to the potty. If they will set there let them. Sometimes the first time is an accident and they are amazed.

I read the book then adapted it to us. Which is important. Yes it is more aggressive than some people like to be but before disposable diapers it was the norm. Also once you start don't stop or back down. After a few accidents in the panties/undies they will not like the feeling. The one I potty trained by the time he was a year old was my easiest by far. Of course the way he let me know he needed the bathroom was to strip (being at home was extra important for him). After about 2 weeks he learned to sign for the bathroom. You can make it any sign. Every time you take the child get down with them and say "Do you need the potty" and do a sign. Also I sat in the floor in the bathroom so I was on their level. I entertained them.

My Gson is now potty trained (he turned 1 on Nov. 18th). His sign is holding his nose. He is a boy and loves to make stinky so that sign was a natural. Of course he also does it when he passes gas but he goes to the potty anyway because that is the rule.

Don't worry about potty manners. You will just confuse them. After they are trained you can add manners as they get better. Also don't punish for accidents. For the first few trips out after training I put them in plastics just in case. Another thing is taking them to the bathroom when you are out of the house. My DD refused to believe anyplace but home had toilets. Also switch from the potty chair to the toilet ASAP. This helps when you are away from home. Boys are easier to teach sitting down but if they are difficult try it standing and put some cereal in the toilet. It gives them a target. I bought a water gun and shot "the targets" so they could see the changes. They loved that and soon learned the concept of standing.

I am more than happy to answer any specific questions just ask.

I forgot to mention, forget the clothes on your weekend, the less to deal with the better.

Also if you like the charts and all that you can print them free on this site. http://www.pottytrainingconcepts.com/Free-Potty-Training-Charts.htm

"AnnaRO" wrote:

I've been doing tons of research on early potting training. Before the 1970's, when disposable diapers became really popular, the average age for potty training was 15 months old. Those who potty trained earlier say it's actually easier than waiting until they are older. There are people who have 12 month old kids that are completey potty trained. The way I see it, there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to be one of them. Lyla actually gets really excited about going potty. When I ask if she wants to go potty, she squeals and runs up to me to hold my hand and lead me to the bathroom and then pound on the bathroom door until I open it. However, until I can conveniently get her to pee on the potty a few more times, I don't think she really comprehends what it is we are doing. It's not an issue with her as much as it is with me. With me getting bigger and being so hormonal, I get tired and frustrated easily. I'm going to steel myself to trying again over the weekend after I go and buy more extremely expensive little girl underwear or training pants. I don't understand why a 3 pack of little girl panties has to cost $12! It's ridiculous!
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Oh good, you put the Yogi post on here. I love it. I agree with just about everything in it and I'm glad it's here so I can use it for inspiration and maybe to help keep me strong!

Any tips on doing this while about 6 months pg? LOL Another hurdle I am going to have is that I take Lyla to MDO twice a week, though she's very rarely there for more than 2 hours. I'd take her out but DH thinks it's important for her and me to have a little time apart. And I kind of need that for my babysitter when I go to my appointments. So, I'm hoping to just work around it.

I think I'm going to have to take it a little bit slower than I originally intended. I don't like to do that, but I feel it's going to work better for us (me in particular) to keep frustration levels down.

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I'd just take things a day at a time. And a diaper for 2 hours twice a week will be fine if she hasn't caught on to how to tell them that she needs to potty. You can always take her to the potty there yourself when you arrive and take her again when you get back.

There were A LOT of moms who did Yogi's method above. I want to say there were only like 2 who posted had issues with Yogi's bootcamp. That was actually a sticky on the old, old board and I saved it even though back then we had just started TTC. Yeah, that's how long I kept that information!!! lol. I wish I still had the questions that people had asked and yogi's answers still cause that thread had a ton of info but got lost during two forum change overs throughout the years.

OH, and I'd love to know if anyone ever finds super small underwear that my small butt man can wear. Lol

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

OH, and I'd love to know if anyone ever finds super small underwear that my small butt man can wear. Lol

The smallest I could find when I was looking around town the other day was 2T and Lyla can wear them but they are loose. I wish they made them for smaller butts. I know there are 2 and 3 year old kids with tiny butts out there. I have a niece like that! Oh! I could ask my sister!! I need to call her anyway.

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I did that boot camp method for potty training Lily, or something that seems very similar. But i think it was called 3 day potty training or something. I have it saved if you want me to email it to you. A lot of the girls on her bb tried it I think, and most seemed to get good results. I know I sent it to Sarah, but idk if she used it or not. Anyways, I will say though that I did this method when Lily was 2 1/2. I really don't think she was ready any earlier. The key is to be consistent. Don't go back and forth from diapers to underwear, it just confuses them. I have to admit I was getting very frustrated w/ it when I trained Lily. She had more accidents than not the 1st day (I think we went through 11 pairs of underwear that day? I can't remember.) And the morning of the 2nd day wasn't much better. However, after her nap that day, something just clicked, and she was accident free the rest of the day! She might have had 1 every other day or so after that, but not many at all. I will say that I did cheat on the nighttime part b/c she is such a good sleeper and I wasn't (still not!) ready to give that up. So she still is not night trained and wears a pullup to bed.

Good luck with Lyla! Only you will really know if she is ready or not.

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I know most people with PL PTing focuses on daytime, not night, training this early. I have no doubt that Aiden is no where near ready to be night trained too. He STTN and soaks a diaper. Wink

Any advice other than what we already have that may help with this style? Smile

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Good luck to all of you! I'll be interested to see how it goes - maybe I'll even get brave and bring out the undies and the singing potty. We have been watching "Potty Time" a lot lately (4 yo DD (who is completely PT) loves it. Go figure)

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

I know most people with PL PTing focuses on daytime, not night, training this early. I have no doubt that Aiden is no where near ready to be night trained too. He STTN and soaks a diaper. Wink

Any advice other than what we already have that may help with this style? Smile

Well, I can tell you what I did with her. First of all, she knew how to go on the potty well before I trained her. When I could finally get her to sit still on it for a minute I introduced it to her. The first couple times she didn't do anything. But the 1st time she went on it I made a HUGE deal about it and danced around and hugged her and we got all excited. Lol. Anyways, from then on she would pretty much go whenever I sat her on the potty, which was just randomly, mostly before bed.

When I actually decided to train her and use the boot camp method, I made sure I took some time off of work and had 4 days that we didn't have to leave the house. I also had my mom take Lucas to the sitter for those days. The night before we started, I had her help me "throw away" all her diapers and told her the next day she would get to wear her special big girl undies and that she was a big girl and didn't need diapers anymore. (I later took the diapers out of the trash and saved them for Lucas :)). I did this so that whenever she asked for a diaper I could tell her "no, we threw them away, remember?" Again, the key is once you start, you don't let them go back to diapers or switch them back and forth.

I did also use M&Ms to give her after she would go on the potty. I'm not sure if I would give them to Lucas at this age yet though, but you might be able to think of something else to use as a treat. And that part only lasted about a week until she really got the hang of it.

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Yeah, I know there are some PLPTer's who go ahead and do night training too, but Lyla STTN and with a new baby coming in April, that's more important to me than having her night-time potty trained. Besides that, she's still in her crib (yup! and she hasn't climbed out again) and until I can transition her to the toddler bed, she'll just stay in an overnight diaper.

I just want to get her to a point where she goes to the potty during the day, even if I have to take her there each time. If it doesn't work then we'll try again later on, but I feel that if it doesn't work it'll be my fault alone. She's enthusiastic about the potty and she sit there and we'll sing the potty song and clap. Earlier tonight I took her with me to the bathroom and I sat and peed, just to try to get her to understand (she generally follows me when I go to the bathroom anyway). When I got off the toilet she immediately made a beeline for her potty seat and put it on the toilet and then started tugging on her pants. I put her on the potty and she sat there for a couple of minutes, but nothing happened. Then she reached for me and wanted off. Not 5 minutes later, she peed on the living room floor. :roll: I think if we can just get a solid start actually peeing in the potty it'll progress well.

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I know a lot of what I did w/ Lily might not apply or be possible at this age, but it's the best advice I have!

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Anna that really is fantastic that she's so excited about the potty right now!

The one time I put Aiden on the potty and he peed, he freaked out. This was back before he could even pull up to standing and this kid stood up and screamed! Hopefully he's forgotten that. Lol

I should find a potty song and such. Off to search online. I know Aiden understands more than I give him credit for sometimes. Blum 3 AT least he thinks it's fascinating to watch me potty right now. lol

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Anna--Gerber makes some padded training underwear that start at size 18 months. They are really hard to find in stores so try searching online. We have a ton of them from when DS1 was little.

Odin will poop on the potty on cue (he poops about the same times each day) or walk us over to the toilet when he needs to poop and wants to go there. Not 100% of the time but pretty often. Pee is anyones guess. I'm holding off on pushing anything beyond that for a while though. I'm just stoked about not scrubbing as much poop off of my diapers.

Good luck! That will be awesome if she does it before #2 gets here!

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I'm reading online that Faded Glory and other super cheap underwear at Walmart 2T size is smaller than others 2T and that it is possible to shrink them. As long as they don't fall off, they'll work ya know.
Gerber 18 month size training pants can be found online at Walmart. $20ish for 6. Good grief. Thinking about the money I'd spend on underwear that way makes me cringe since I already own cloth diapers! lol! I think I'll try the super cheap ones at Walmart first. Even if too big, at least he'll fit into them eventually.
I'm thinking about this too much cause I won't try till DH is on board and we have the bathroom back into one piece. Right now the toilet isn't even connected....as in it's about 2 feet away from where it should be. Lol

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"Vstarr" wrote:

I did that boot camp method for potty training Lily, or something that seems very similar. But i think it was called 3 day potty training or something. I have it saved if you want me to email it to you. A lot of the girls on her bb tried it I think, and most seemed to get good results. I know I sent it to Sarah, but idk if she used it or not. Anyways, I will say though that I did this method when Lily was 2 1/2. I really don't think she was ready any earlier. The key is to be consistent. Don't go back and forth from diapers to underwear, it just confuses them. I have to admit I was getting very frustrated w/ it when I trained Lily. She had more accidents than not the 1st day (I think we went through 11 pairs of underwear that day? I can't remember.) And the morning of the 2nd day wasn't much better. However, after her nap that day, something just clicked, and she was accident free the rest of the day! She might have had 1 every other day or so after that, but not many at all. I will say that I did cheat on the nighttime part b/c she is such a good sleeper and I wasn't (still not!) ready to give that up. So she still is not night trained and wears a pullup to bed.

Good luck with Lyla! Only you will really know if she is ready or not.

Yes, I used it. And I sent it on to loads of other mums Smile I am defiantly using it with Tobey too. I agree that DS1 was not ready until he was over 2. He was 2 years 4.5 months when I PT'd him and after 3 days it was done, no looking back, day and night (except when he's ill when he goes in a pull-up at bed time. When he's ill he ALWAYS wets the bed)

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Since I had to go out for gas for the car (light came on yesterday), I figured I'd stop off and pick up cheap underwear in the smallest size I could find. Which is, of course, 2T. I washed them on hot and dried them on hot. They did shrink. But definitely not enough. One good booty shake and these things are coming off! Lol

ETA: You can't really tell from the pictures, but the leg holes are HUGE for DS and I had to hike it up over his belly button to keep them up for a picture! I even dug through all the little girl panties hoping for a smaller size or smaller weight guidelines.

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"rubber_da_glove" wrote:

Yes, I used it. And I sent it on to loads of other mums Smile I am defiantly using it with Tobey too. I agree that DS1 was not ready until he was over 2. He was 2 years 4.5 months when I PT'd him and after 3 days it was done, no looking back, day and night (except when he's ill when he goes in a pull-up at bed time. When he's ill he ALWAYS wets the bed)

Oh good! I thought that you had used it. I'm so glad you've been able to send it on. Everyone I know, online and IRL, who has used it has had good results.

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LOL Jackie, those undies on Aiden are so cute, it's funny that they are still too big on him!

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

I should find a potty song and such. Off to search online. I know Aiden understands more than I give him credit for sometimes. Blum 3 AT least he thinks it's fascinating to watch me potty right now. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVToZfaGCTw Lol

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When I go to the thrift store, I am always on the look out for small panties. I have found several that were meant as diaper coverd, but are made like real undies with the cotton crotch. I also have a few pairs of padded 'training' undies that fit her not too bad.

A few weeks ago, I got a box of Huggies Easy up. It made it easier to take Juliet to the potty, since we could just pull the pants down and up.

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Jackie, I found some Hanes today at Target and at Wal-Mart that were a 6 pack for $6, so $1 a pair. That's the best deal I've found so far, and thier 2T weight guidelines were a little smaller. The package says 20lbs min and 19" waist. I washed them, but haven't put them on her yet. I'll let you know tomorrow how they fit, but I'm optimistic that they'll stay on.

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I didn't see Hanes at my Walmart. I ended up with Fruit of the Loom which was 6 for $5.78 or such. Faded Glory was a little over $6 for 6. I'll save them for in the future. Distant future apparently. ROFL I'm going to try Target and the stores near it tomorrow assuming I'm feeling better after Aiden's nap. If not I'll hit it up Monday after Stroller Strides. All the packages I was seeing was saying things like 26 pounds and Aiden is no where near that!

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"janijanis" wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVToZfaGCTw Lol

OMG that's annoying!!! I remember seeing those commercials on TV.

I did find a few youtube videos though that I need to save on my iPhone. And then I'm going to get a few books to read too. If nothing else, I know he'll like the books. ha ha.

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I'm really hoping to ditch the diapers by this summer. Teagan was peeing and occasionally pooing on the potty before our lengthy holiday trip. I hope we can fall right back into it when I finally get back home. My main concern is finding a long enough stretch of time at home to have it sink in. Then I can just send her to daycare in panties.

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Ronin just did a poo on the potty. He was eating tea and grunting so I whisked him into the toilet then danced and sang. It was a silly song basically "he did a poo he did a poo he did a poo on the potty" and then went through the rest of the process with a song for flushing which he loves butI only let him do if he does something, getting to use the big boy toilet paper and of course hand washing.
We didn't have such luck this morning as I put him on the potty when he woke up, he didn't go then peed on the floor twice, but you win some and lose some.

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That's great! I've heard some kids aren't so fond of pooping on the toilet. Which I personally haven't grasped why yet since wouldn't that feel worse against you?!

I really need to come up with a sign for potty that works for Aiden. He kinda gets the sign for diaper, but won't use it most of the time. I can ask him if he needs his diaper changed and if he does he'll run to his room over to the dresser in there (I change him on a pad on top of the dresser still). He just started that a couple of days ago. I feel like we're headed in the right direction. He's finally noticing and WANTING to be changed out of a dirty diaper! Great step! Smile

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Jackie, that picture of Aiden in his undies was too cute!! We bought Evan some big boy undies to wear around the house some. I haven't started trying to potty train yet, but I thought that could get more air flow against his booty than a diaper, and if acts interested now, I will try. He looks so stinking cute in them!! DH was bummed because I got disney instead of super hero. Smile

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Yay for a poo in the potty!! Wendy, what do you use for rewards?

Okay, so here's my morning so far. When I woke up at 7:20am, Lyla was already awake and playing with her blanket in her crib. So I got up and dressed and got her and immediately took her to the potty. Where nothing happened. So I figured she had likely already peed in her diaper. Got dressed in her panties and then went about our day. 20 minutes later I took her back to the potty after she'd had her sippy of milk and again nothing happened. 15 minutes later (kid's gotta go sometime right?) and again nothing happened. So we had our oatmeal and water (coffee for mom) and the I asked DH to take her 15 minutes later, nothing. And he even had her sit there for about 10 minutes! So then I took her and we went to her room and played with some stuff for another 15 minutes and then I asked her if she wanted to try to peepee in the potty again. This time we had a success!! I made a complete fool of myself dancing, clapping, cheering for her and DH came running in there to join the celebration. She loved it! I haven't figured out proper rewards yet since stickers won't mean much to her and I don't like the idea of giving her food every time, but I gave her a vanilla wafer.

I was planning on taking her back again in 25-30 minutes, but she started grunting less than 5 minutes later so I dropped everything and took her back to the potty. Nothing. So we came back out and as I was getting on here to post an update she was squatting and grunting again, so I picked her up and she grunted again so I ran to the bathroom with her. Halfway there she peed on my hand, 10 minutes after her successful pee in the potty. I set her on the potty to see if she would poo too, but nothing. I'll try to take her again in about 5 or 10 minutes since it's been about 15 now.

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That's a great start to the day Anna! Really! Bound to be accidents of course. Sounds like all that liquid finally hit her. Wink

I'm really torn on what I want to do once we start and Aiden actually uses the potty. Do I want to reward or not? Are "yays" good enough? I'm not really wanting him to think that food treats are rewards, but at the same time if it helps encourage him for a few days is it worth me going against my food rewards thing? Or am I completely over thinking everything?! A very real possibility. Lol

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Anna that is great! I am glad that she is getting it so quickly. Trevor didn't start until he was about 2, and everyone was getting on me because he was not trained yet. Apparently dh was trained when he was one.

Trevor always had a little butt and it was hard to get undies to stay on. Honestly the best thing that worked for us were cloth diaper covers.. like the ones you use for a infant(well like 9m old)? We had a bunch from his fancy outfits and I bet Gerber sells white ones if they are hard to find separately.. He is finally outgrowing his once huge 2T undies and he is almost 4.

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I have lots of CD covers that I was planning on using when we leave the house. I figured I'd just make them a bit looser than I do for diapers so I can pull them on and off if need be. I'd just like to do underwear only at home because he's so used to flats right now (basically old fashioned diapers and he feels the wetness as it is). I think being coverless and having the pee escape what he's wearing would really help DS get the difference between his diapers and underwear.

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Okay so we had a couple more 'accidents' and then she went down for a nap at 11a. She woke up dry at 12:30 and we had another successful pee pee in the potty!! Yahoo Then as I was making her lunch after I looked down and she was kind of hunkered down with her hands on her knees so I rushed her to the bathroom, but she had already started a poopy. However! She did finish her poopoo in the potty!!! YAY!

I get discouraged when she has 'accidents' but when we have a success, it totally motivates me!

(Do y'all really care for these play-by-plays?)

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Actually I love the play-by-plays. It gives an accurate description of PL PTing and I think it'll be very useful for the rest of us when we start. I think you're doing really well!!! Biggrin

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Anna I don't use any rewards really. Ronin gets cheers etc when he goes on the potty or toilet and when he does he gets to press the button to flush. He still needs help with that, but if he does nothing I tell him no flushing and we wash our hands and leave, if he does he stands on the lid and helps press the button.

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Way to go, Anna!!! It sounds like you are making progress. Rewards or no rewards, I think either way would be fine. They are learning based on how they are being taught. So if you dance and celebrate, that is their reward until they understand the greatness of being PTd. My brother did use a candy treat on his daughter while she was PTing, and she never expected in any other circumstance besides going in the potty. Once she was completely PTd, they stopped giving candy and never had an issue.

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So even though it wasn't a total bust today, it's extremely exhausting for pregnant mommy to be constantly taking the kiddo to the potty. I was getting frustrated because while sitting on the potty she wanted to play with everything around her like the trash can, the toilet paper, the toilet brush etc. And she was beginning to act like she was no longer enjoying the whole thing, so we stopped for the day. We only had one more accident since the last post, but then she didn't pee again for more than an hour and a half, so we just put a diaper on her a few minutes ago. My house is a complete disaster since my total focus today was on taking Lyla to the potty.

I feel kinda bad because I really think that she can get this if I could keep it going all day, every day, but I am so completely and utterly exhausted there is just no way I can do it anymore. So I think part-time during the day is the best we can do for now. Now I'm trying to get a bit of rest before I have to cook dinner.

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Can you guys post links to the sites where you've been reading about this? I've been searching but haven't come up with much other than the usual PTing stuff.

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Parent led potty training? It's actually been passed down on my dad's side of the family, so I've always heard stuff just from them. As soon as they were walking after a year my grandmother PTed all 6 of her kids. It was how it was done in her family growing up (she was the last of 13). It was just how it was done. My mom trained my sister and I at about two by following one of those potty training in a day books. She said it took a weekend. I barely even remember my sister potty training since it happened so quickly. I remember helping me sister clean up like one accident. My mom gave me the book, but it's in storage. I think most of us are just doing what our parents and grandparents did since it was the norm.

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Bought more underwear. Trying to shrink them. I was almost tempted to buy the girl's Hanes panties, but I'm pretty sure DH would of had a complete cow over that. The panties do have lower weight guidelines on them than their matching boy counterparts. *sigh* I know you hear that girls are easier to train than boys, but really?! Blum 3
If these don't fit then I'll just wait till they do fit through a good butt shake before starting. Not in a rush. Smile

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Here in Canada, we can get these at Walmart: http://www.gerberchildrenswear.com/tabid/118/CategoryID/174/List/1/Level/a/ProductID/400/Default.aspx

I got a few pairs for DS, and have used them on Juliet, back when when she was telling me she needed to go potty.

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

Parent led potty training? It's actually been passed down on my dad's side of the family, so I've always heard stuff just from them. As soon as they were walking after a year my grandmother PTed all 6 of her kids. It was how it was done in her family growing up (she was the last of 13). It was just how it was done. My mom trained my sister and I at about two by following one of those potty training in a day books. She said it took a weekend. I barely even remember my sister potty training since it happened so quickly. I remember helping me sister clean up like one accident. My mom gave me the book, but it's in storage. I think most of us are just doing what our parents and grandparents did since it was the norm.

Anna just referenced a lot of research she was doing, so I was curious as to what she had been reading. I thought maybe there were some special tips about doing it at this age.

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i'm just doing what my Mum did, my brother and I were out of nappies day and night by 2, though my brother was a late bed wetter, but Mum would just change the sheets and put him back in, no nappies or anything. I got a book from the library today called toilet training boys the easy way.

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I've been taking Juliet to the potty since she is 4 months old. Here are a few things that I have realised for p/t at this age

-routine is more important than consistancy.
I take her potty first thing when she wakes up, right before meals and about 10 to 15 minutes after meals, and right before and after naps. I also take her when I see she is showing sings of pooping. Sometimes, I'll take her if I notice she is still dry after a few hours. But, I don't watch the clock.
When the routine is tossed out of the window, not dealing with the potty is not an issue. We get back to it, when we get back into the routine.

-Count the success not the failurs. Some days I go through a diaper every change. But as long as she pees in the potty a few times a day, I am happy.

-Don't stress about it. I think putting them back on the pot every 20 minutes bothers them as much as us. That is why I think the routine works better.

-Keep something unique to entertain while on the potty. Right now, Juliet had a small shovel and bowl. They stay by the potty, and she can only play with them while sitting on it. She also has two board books.

-She has less accidents while in cloth than in sposies.

That is what has worked for us.
I can't wait for Juliet to start to talk and clearly say she needs to go potty. Then we'll be into all the cute undies I've been collecting for the last year.

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Unfortunately, I didn't think to save any of the articles I was reading before. I'll see if I can find them again, but I bet you can find a lot of information by googling Dr. T. Berry Brazelton who essentially pioneered the present day western idea of potty training in which became popular in the 1980's.

Bouke L. 2008. Infant potty training (3rd edition). Lafayette, CO: White-Bouke
Publishing

http://www.parentingscience.com/science-of-toilet-training.html

http://www.babble.com/toddler/toddler-development/potty-training-readiness-toilet-training-methods/

http://www.parentingscience.com/potty-training-age.html

http://www.parentingscience.com/infant-potty-training.html

http://www.storknet.com/cubbies/parenting/potty-training.htm

I'll try to find the rest of the information I read.

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Thanks Anna, that was what I was wanted to look at!

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"BuckeyeK" wrote:

Thanks Anna, that was what I was wanted to look at!

going back I misunderstood you earlier! Let's blame the cold and the extra tylenol I've been taking to keep my headache to a dull roar. lol

Louise, thanks for the info. I think I'm going to do the "boot camp" first and once he gets the idea of the potty down, try something similar to your routine for taking him till he's able to sign to me that he needs to potty. I guess we'll see what eventually ends up happening. Smile

Okay, I should have bought Faded Glory at Walmart first. C'mon it's Walmart brand clothing - of course it'll shrink well! Lol
While still a bit baggy after being shrank, it passes the butt shake test! So if you've got a kid that's as small as 12 month pants, you might be able to get their 2T undies to work! Best of all the Walmart I went to today had packages of 10 for $8. Boy mixed colors and girl mixed colors both!

I'm starting to finally get DH on board, but I want him fully on board before planning more out. Maybe in one of his 3 day weekends coming up I can get him to join me. In an ideal world I think tag teaming the first day or two might work better for my sanity.

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What potties are your LOs using? We have a little Baby Bjorn potty and T uses the big potty sometimes. The big potty requires someone hold her one. My DH's back problems make it tough for him to hold her on for very long. I'm thinking the sort that go on top of the big potty might help. Do they stay on all the time or do you put them on just for LO? Do they make it more difficult for LO to use the potty on the go?

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"TiggersMommy" wrote:

What potties are your LOs using? We have a little Baby Bjorn potty and T uses the big potty sometimes. The big potty requires someone hold her one. My DH's back problems make it tough for him to hold her on for very long. I'm thinking the sort that go on top of the big potty might help. Do they stay on all the time or do you put them on just for LO? Do they make it more difficult for LO to use the potty on the go?

I have the one that you just put on the big potty. Actually I have 2. One comes off the little potty and hooks on the big potty, but it's hard plastic and I thought she might prefer a softer seat so I bought another one that just sets on top of the big potty. It comes off easily and comes with a hook you put on the tank so you can just hang it on it's hook. It's really easy to use and doesn't take any extra time. I prefer to use the big potty because it's easier to get her to sit there. With the little potty she just wants to stand and sit, stand and sit, throw a toy, and go get it, etc.

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We have the cheap Ikea one piece potty that's on the floor. I'm going to try that first and see how it goes, but I do want to move him to the big potty quickly. I'll probably get one of those that sit on the potty before we start. I've been looking at them as I've been trying to find underwear. It's hard finding one with a shield that's half good for little boys, but one of the Walmarts here had one that snaps on that looks halfway descent (gag, I hate Walmart but I've looked pretty much everywhere else in this city!). OMG I even made myself walk into Toys R Us here....and their BRU section is the smallest I've ever seen at one! I know, I know step up from Del Rio doesn't mean big city. lol.
I know some families bring a folded potty seat for when they're out of the house. But I'm really hoping that Aiden will be okay with me holding him up there for those times. Cause I don't use a diaper bag now and don't want to start. In fact I'm looking forward to using a slightly smaller purse. Blum 3

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I have a toilet insert which has to come off after every use because other wise the toilet is useless for the rst of us and we just hang it on a nail behind the door. We also have a potty on the ground which at the moment gets more use because I don't have to set it up if I see he is abount to go.

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I dusted off the fisher price singing potty today and Lainey sat on it (fully clothed) while watching Potty Time. As I expected, my 4 year old was the most excited about the potty, and I had to practically pry her off it to let Lainey check it out. Then, we were getting ready for bath time, and Lainey was running around the room naked. She ran over to the potty, sat on top of it and peed! Unfortunately, the lid was down so she literally peed on the potty. But we were still so excited! Then, after bath time I had her sit (naked) on the potty for a second while I got her overnight diaper ready. I heard the potty start singing, and she had peed again! So I think we're going to start part time potty training. If I were home full time I might try to go all out, but the best I think I can manage at this point is to set her on the potty as often as we can, which will probably just be a few times a day.

As recently as a week ago, I thought kids had to be older and had to be displaying the "potty training readiness signs" and that anything that happened before about age 2 was really EC. But she definitely seems to know what she's doing, and it makes sense to start younger before the power struggles begin. Thanks, Anna, for posting those links! If it weren't for you girls and your PTing adventures, I wouldn't have even thought to get the potty out yet!

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