Okay, finally got DH convinced that base housing is the best for us. It's WAY WAY WAY nicer than the base housing we were in to say the least. However, it has stairs and it's a wide stair case. At this age, do most people still gate off their stairs at the top and bottom? By the time we left from checking out the house today he had mastered climbing them without any issue. We can't drill holes in the walls by the stairs apparently (though if everyone says we need gates and the mounted ones are better, we can ask for an exemption to policy since it's for safety). Any thoughts and suggestions (brands, etc)? We've never lived in a house with stairs (even as kids) other than a 9 month stint when we first got married. We're pretty much stair clueless.
My second set of questions is about gates and outside. Our house will have a desk off of the back door. It's a good sized one too, but we'd need the stairs leading into the yard gated off since there's no yard fence and there's still construction going on near us (maybe even directly behind us depending on what house they assign us). Once again, not supposed to drill into the wood deck. Do I need a certain type of gate or certain material to use back there? Any suggestions? Once again we've never ever lived anywhere with a deck. lol.
I would totally put gates on everything. We kept ours on the top part of the stairs with DS1 until he was like 3. I always worried that he would be 1/2 asleep at night wandering to the potty or something and fall down the stairs in the dark. At 2.5 we left the gate off one night and he not only went down and had his way around the house without us knowing but had also gone out the front door and left it open. So that gate stayed on even longer and we started chaining our door at the top. Anyway we rented most of those years with DS1 so we used a removeable pressure mounted gate at all the houses we lived in. Its nice cause you can move them anywhere and use them for loads of things. We just now got ones that screw in the wall a few weeks back since we will be in this house for while. I would check about using a mounted one on the outside deck though since it would be a PITA to have a moveable one there and I would worry about him roaming or rolling down those steps on a bike or something.
Here is what ours kinda looked like...
The coated wire part was different and it may be a different brand as well. This one is also pretty narrow and ours expand beyond 42 inches for sure, more like 52 or so. The ones we have are really sturdy and I avoided the plastic ones like these cause they didn't hold as well. That part was important at the top of the stairs cause Ryland actually used to try and climb the gate for a while and those plastic ones would have just fallen with him going down on top. After 6 years both of those gates we bought are still in awesome condition.
I should add that he could go up and down stairs by this age but like I said I just worried about it at those times that I wasn't right there. We've had our shares of stills with him over the years, even know still.
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I was wondering if it would be worth investing in one of those pressure mounted gates that have the walk through built in. At least for the deck because we would have to do certain activities down in the grass (I want to get him a splash pool and such when it warms up).
Glad you pointed out the top of the stairs and wondering around - totally need something there first no matter what! There may be times where I need to barricade him upstairs (like me showering).
We have a pressure mounted walk through gate at the top of our stairs which I really like-it is sturdy and nice that it is walk through so we only had to set it up the one time. For the top or bottom of the stairs, I would only use a walk through gate unless you want to move the gate or climb over it every time you go up and down- tripping hazard or major pain in the rear. And if you are using a heavy duty pressure mount gate, which is the only kind I would use by stairs, they are not all that easy to set up/take down, so definitely use a walk through gate there.
We don't have a gate at the bottom of the stairs-the way our house is laid out, we can block the doorway to the kitchen/dining/living room area which is where we spend all of our time when we are downstairs and dd can't get to the stairs which is in the front entryway. We just use a cheap wooden pressure mounted gate for that since if it falls over with her on it, she won't roll down any stairs and we would see it and stop her before she got to the stairs. She has only pushed it over once. I would like to get a pressure mounted walk through gate for there eventually, because it is a pain to be always setting it up and taking it down and stepping over it when it is up.
I will add that even the heavy duty pressure mount gates state that they are not meant for top of the stairs and must be mounted when used there to be safe, however as we don't leave her unattended and she doesn't try to climb on the gate, we haven't mounted it. If you want to use pressure mounted at the top of the stairs, I would take into consideration how much Aiden will try to climb on the gate and if there is anywhere like a hallway where you could put the gate to block him upstairs instead of right at the top of the stairs, that might be safer if it were to give. I wanted to do that for our upstairs, but with our layout, there wasn't anywhere to put the gate besides right at the top of the stairs. This is the gate we got, it is a cheaper one, but it has been working well for us:
For your deck, I think a mounted gate might work best if you can get permission to put one in.
There isn't anywhere else to put a gate at the top of the stairs since it leads up to an open area that all rooms branch off of.
I'll have DH start the paperwork for permissions (seriously it's 14 different forms just for us to get DirecTV at the house) tomorrow when he goes to formally ask for a house. If nothing else we'll get a pressure gate for the top that we can always use elsewhere once the pounds of paperwork are done.
Thanks ladies! Appreciate any other thoughts y'all have.
we have pressure mounted gates top and bottom. Neither boy has climbed on them. But if you have a climber then a fixed one is better. We took them off to get some work done on the house last summer and DS1 panicked he was going to fall down the stairs so I think they will be up a long time
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I don't have either of my sets of stairs gated, but only because they are both external and I keep the door shut ( no screens). If I had screns and kept the wooden doors open I would likely gate the stairs because Ronin is obessed with them, he is awesome at going up, but not so good going down and my stairs are concrete.
The gate I do have is pressure mounted and is very secure. We only have the back room to the bedrooms gated as it's the only door way thats a normal size and we cane use a gate on. I need something for his bedroom though when he moves in, but the extended gates are way too expensive.
We still gate.. Natalie can get up and down the stairs by herself but she is risky. She has tried to walk down them which is a no-go, and sit and kinda sit jump them which has led to her flying foward. I think gates are a good idea at this age. There are many metal gates that can adjust to the width of the walls so you dont have to drill. You could always buy a cheap wood one for outside.
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Thanks ladies. I guess i'm off to hunt for a pressure mounted gate that will fit at the stairs tomorrow! I'm going to try it at the top for a few days and if I don't think it's secure enough, move it elsewhere and get a mounted for the top. Then go from there. We have permission to put a permanent gate on the deck as long as it's just tiny screws and no bolts and such, though they asked us why we wanted to do that since no one else out here has asked yet. Seriously?! Then this one lady said, "well, why would he be out there without you watching him the whole time?" Ummm...because I don't have eyes on the back of my head! WTF. Plus the grill has to be kept in the grass and not on the deck, so I really want a gate there now since we plan lots of grilling.