Okay, so for those of you who aren't on FB, we're still having issues getting LO to STTN. What in the world can you recommend for helping this? Last night I just had to let her CIO for about 20 min because I couldn't take it anymore. She ended up finally passing out.... for those of you who have done the CIO method, how many nights of screaming did you have to go through?
ETA: She also is still waking 1-2 times a night to eat. She's eating approx 4-6 oz when she does this too.
Aiden is no where sleeping through the night. Once asleep he only wakes to eat and he's back asleep almost immediately. He used to be great at going to sleep for the night, but recently has decided to fight it. We don't CIO, so it's taking patience and rethinking our nightly routine.
i personally believe that there isn't something you can do, it just happens. Some nights Lucas sleeps a full 12 hours, others he is up 2-3 times and we do the same thing every night. i tried the cio once, and decided it isn't for us. he just gets himself more and more worked up and ends up choking. there is no way he will calm down and go to sleep so i am not doing it. i will let him fuss, or cry a little but once it starts escalating i stop it.
Do you really think she needs to eat, or only doing so to put herself back to sleep. Maybe she's waking out of habit and wanting to eat. Maybe try soothing her another way back to sleep and see if it works, then maybe she wont wake out of habit.
Just a thought. DS is STTN and did it on his own after we moved him to his own room, so I dont really have any suggestions since that is all we did.
What is your definition of STTN? Do you mean the technical description - 6hrs in a row - or do you mean actually sleeping all night long without waking?
STTN (all night long) is a physical development milestone just like any other. They will STTN (all night) when they are ready. Quite a few babies don't start actually sleeping all night until closer to a year and beyond (and that is probably still with at least one night waking). There are a few steps you can take to discourage excessive or habitual night waking, but until they are ready to STTN (all night), there isn't much you can do. At 6 months of age, waking 1-2 times per night to feed is completely normal.
When are you doing the CIO, and how are you doing it? Do you mean you are doing CIO at bedtime? When she wakes? After you have comforted her and given her a bottle to get her back to sleep?
We don't do CIO here, so I don't really have much advice. We did do modified CIO (Ferber method) for a little bit with DD1 when she was about 11 months old, but what I didn't like is that it took several days of increasing increments of CIO (with comforting, so it wasn't total CIO) and by the time it actually starts to work, any little disruption of their routine (sickness, teething, travel) and you start back at square one. We gave it up fairly quickly (plus, CIO just doesn't sit right with me).
There's a couple sleep training books you could try, The No Cry Sleep Solution and/or Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems (Ferber method). Good luck!
For me at this age I let Natalie CIO because I cant rock her sleep everytime she is tired, so by letting her CIO it just helps her get used to falling asleep by herself. Even though I do, she still doesnt STTN. Its more of an age thing since they probably still are getting hungry at night. I asked my pedi. when I should let her CIO throughout the night and he basically said when she is eating alot during the day, so 3 meals, plus BM. He said that she shouldnt need to eat more than that but Natalie still isnt eating 3 meals. I can barely get her to eat 2.5 oz of baby food once a day. Its more like half a jar at one time and maybe the whole 2.5 if she just woke up from her mom and is starving. Im def. used to not having any of my kids STTN totally until they are around 10-11mths because I BF. Around there I really dont feel quilty by letting them CIO because there isnt really a reason why they need to eat during the night as long as they are eating enough during the day.
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Lucas does STTN. He finally got the hang of it consistently at about 4 months, which was longer than my DD. I was a little more lax w/ him b/c I bf him longer, plus it's harder to do CIO w/ another child in the room next door that you don't want to wake!
Anyways, by far the absolute most important thing I have found for getting both my babies to sleep well is to have them in their own room w/ the door closed. I've just found that they sleep so much better this way. Also try to have a somewhat consistent routine for going to sleep. With Lucas I let him play for a little bit after he has his last bottle. Then I change him, put him in his sleep sack, let sissy give him a good night kiss, then lay him down in the crib w/ the lights off and his rainforest crib toy (w/ lights & music) on. This is all after load of hugs and kisses from Mommy, of course. I've also lately been giving him a lovey, which seems to help if he is fussy. He rarely even cries when I lay him down, and even if he does, I leave and close the door anyways and he usually stops instantly. He knows that I won't come back in if he does.
I rarely hear a peep from him all night. Ocasionally he does cry, sometimes for just a few seconds, and sometimes for maybe 5 min. But I just let him work it out on his own. And I feel like he is getting enough formula and food during the day that he doesn't need to eat at night anymore. Now of course if he started crying hysterically or it went on for too long and I could tell something was wrong I would try and comfort him and then lay him down again. But this hasn't happened yet, at least not at bedtime. Naptime is a little different. We're still working on our routine there.
Sorry if I wrote a novel there! I just know that both my babies are great sleepers and bedtime is fairly easy (at least, until you try getting a 2 yr old to agree to go to bed!! lol) so I'm hoping some of that helps. And it may be just that I happened to be lucky and have babies w/ a personality that causes them to sleep well. Idk. Anyways, good luck!
I now have the problem of him thinking 4.30-5am is morning and I can't leave him because he screams for attention and wakes up his brother and I'm not having 2 grumpy tired children
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i am guilty of feeding him to sleep but only at night. if it's not that i will have to rock him. he gets to a point where he will not fall asleep on his own if he is too tired. if he wakes up in the middle of the night and i feed him and put him down awake, he is fine and will go back to sleep on his own. he also falls asleep on his own during the day. weird!
Buckeye recommended the No Cry Sleep Solution. I read it and while I don't follow everything, it did help me look at sleep differently and find a better solution for us.