Talking, or lack thereof

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KittyRN's picture
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Talking, or lack thereof

Hi ladies
Simon still isnt talking much. I'm not too concerned though, he understands everything, and can say words when he wants to. I was looking at the milestones for 2 years and it says point to at least 2 different objects when asked.....Simon point to EVERYTHING. i can ask him where anything in the room is and he knows, same with body parts, even ones I'm sure we havent went over. Where did he learn elbow???

Anyways, I'm hoping we are on the verge of a language explosion because he's added a few more words lately and is using the ones he already has alot more.

This morning I was on the toilet (sorry TMI) and he knows that i "pee pee" in there. He usualy comes in and walks around saying "pee pee pee pee". Anyways, he still had his paci in since we just got up. He walks up to the sink and sort of starts dancing in front of it. So I say to him "why are you dancing?" His response? \akes out his paci and says "Pee pee dance!" It was the funniest thing ever! He's such a weirdo.

Anyways, I had to share cause I thought it was too cute! I cant wait for him to talk more, I love his little voice. He babbles all the time and think he "thinks" he is saying stuff but I mostly dont understand it.

We are in contact with kidsability here that help with delays and such, but we contacted in July and still havent heard anything, so I called again the other day and they basically said "dont hold your breath, it will be awhile" So frusterating! What if he really does need help!!??!?! ERG!!!

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My child speaks toddlerese still. It's not understandable to most people at all. Heck, I often can't tell if Aiden is saying shoe, cereal, or juice because they all sound so alike. I've been teaching him to sign the letter J so that I at least narrow down what he wants when he runs at me. This kid is obsessed with wearing shoes and cereal is his favorite food currently, so you never know which of the three he actually wants. You see the video Erin posted of Teagan singing? Yeah, we're no where near that!!! Pretty much the only phrases heard about here regularly are "oh man" and "I did it." He is adding words to his vocabulary and is finally repeating us (this is recently within the past two weeks). Still won't call me anything and rarely calls DH dada. Then again "Airplane! Outside!" is waaaaay more fascinating to him. My mom is worried about his pronunciation because we're both sure he's trying to say more only it's waaaaaay too out there for me to even begin to figure it out. But I don't worry about him being delayed at all. After all, he rocks with motor skills and unlike me as an adult he actually holds his crayons correctly like one should a pencil. Blum 3

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That is so cute about Simon's peepee dance!! I don't know if Evan knows where his elbow is, I'll have to ask him. Jackie, Evan is also crazy about airplanes. Even in the house when he hears them he yells at them. Then we say "bye bye airplane." Evan has always been pretty talkative, but it seems like it's alot more right now. He likes to sing the wheels on the bus at bedtime lately. Mainly just sings what the parts do and "all through the town." I really do love this stage that they are at.

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Lol Pee pee dance! I love it!

Jackie, that's impressive that Aiden holds a crayon correctly! Motor skills are not Adair's biggest strength.

From what you all describe, I wouldn't worry too much about the toddlerese at this stage, especially if they're making progress. The only thing you might check if it just keeps being garbled is their hearing. I do have a little brother who was talking a mile a minute but NOBODY could understand a word, and when he was about 2.5 they figured out that he'd had a deep inner ear infection since about 9 months (they think) and his speech was mimicking what he was hearing--muffled and garbled! He did have to go to speech therapy once they'd cleared that up, but he did fine and you'd never know now. Addy had mild ear infection related hearing loss too, but tubes cleared that up (we got them at 18 months). It was interesting--you wouldn't have known because she seemed to be hearing and developing her speech fine, but once it was fixed it was IMMEDIATELY obvious that she was hearing way more than before. She would perk up at quiet sounds and go investigate, because they were clearly new to her.

I think it's too early to worry about that, though. A lot of kids don't talk well until 2.5 or later.

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And if he's feeling motivated he tries really hard to color in the lines of coloring book pages! He's wanting knifes to practice cutting his own food now.
I really don't think that he has a hearing issue though because some words are very clear like airplane and outside. He often hears the cat wanting back inside before I ever do! Just think he doesn't see the point in communication. Not when he can do it himself. Why tell me he's hungry when he can get his own plate, hand it to me, put his bib on, and seat himself in his booster seat? Lol
Though my sanity really hopes for a language explosion soon. Wink

KittyRN's picture
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I wonder about Simon's hearing sometimes too, since his words are so garbled at times, however, if I whisper at him across the room he turns to look because he hears me. And I talk at a normal volume asking him to point to things, do things, and he always does. But he does get eyes and ears confused. They do sound similar I guess. But like I said, he hears me whispering and knows when DH gets up in the morning from hearing the floor creak upstairs and its not a loud creak.

When we called kidsability they did a phone assessment to see how severe his needs were and they asked some hearing questions and were satisfied that his hearing seemed ok. He has had a couple ear infections, but the ped also doesnt seem concerned. Any other suggestions on how i can test it myself?

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At Lainey's 2 year check up the pedi just wanted to know if she had any 2 word sentences. So I'm sure he's just fine.

My mom was a preschool teacher, and in her experience boys speak less in general, speak later and don't speak as clearly as girls until a later age. Of course, there are always exceptions to any of that.

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Sounds like you're probably OK on the hearing front. When the audologist tested Addy, they had a soundproof room with speakers, and inside each speaker was a light up toy that moved around. They would make various beeping sounds from one speaker or another, and if she turned her head to look at it, they toy would light up (to encourage them to look where they heard a sound). She did great with the louder sounds, but during the quieter beeping she just sat on my lap and didn't react to anything. When they tested her after the tubes, she reacted to all of the sounds.

After that, she kept commenting on birds singing and such, and the first time we heard the neighbor next door go out to her laundry area while talking on the phone (which she does ALL THE TIME) Addy's eyes got really big and she ran out to see what was happening. Clearly it was a new sound to her.

If Simon's hearing whispers from across the room, I wouldn't worry about it being a hearing issue.

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Lol at the pee pee dance! Just yesterday I caught my DD telling Lucas to go potty, and he will jump up and go run to the bathroom and flush the toilet. Kind of funny, but I had to try and discourage her from telling him to do that (once was funny, the 3rd time in like 5 min was becoming annoying).

I don't think you need to worry about Simon at this stage. The window for what is normal for speech development is so broad right now, plus he obviously is learning well and knows a TON, he just doesn't feel the need to express it verbally right now. One of my co-workers has a son that was delayed in his speech. They went to a therapist and she told the parents that they were basically talking too much and not giving him much of a chance to talk on his own. He didn't need to talk around them, and so just didn't. She told them to stop answering questions for him or just giving him what he wants without him even saying it, give him time to ask, and within a week his language skills just took off. Makes sense when you know how much my co-worker likes to talk Biggrin

Lucas has some crazy verbal skills and tons of words and phrases, and I can probably understand him about 75% of the time. And most other people seem to be able to understand him too. He also loves to sing, and has picked up quite a few songs lately. He can get through most of the Alphabet song (just skips a few letters here and there), Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, Apples and Bananas, and has recently started singing Ring Around the Rosie, which is really cute to watch him throw himself on the ground when "they all fall down!" I'm honestly not sure how he is so verbal, my DD never was at this age.

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OK, not reading everyone else's responses but I have the no.1 child for talking explosion Smile When DS1 was the age of our pumpkins now he said "Mama" "Dadda" and "UH". That was it, nothing else at all, not even animal noises. When he went for his 2 year check I was pretty concerned. He understood just about everything I said to him like point to the -item- he would get it right and he could understand like go and fetch the -item- and -item- which his doctor said was a good indication that there was nothing wrong with him. When he got to just over 2.5 he started saying a few more words here and there like "dog" "door" "brum".

When he was about 2 yrs 8 months he just started talking, full sentences, out of the blue. Literately woke up one day and talked. So it's been just over a year since he started talking and I really really wish he would stop, just for maybe 10 seconds or something Lol He talks a lot better than most children his age, everyone can understand him, he sounds like his 6 year old cousin when he talks Smile

I'm just trying to reassure you that he's fine, he'll explode soon Smile

Tobey, however, talks like a 3 year old Lol Most people understand him, including strangers and he says things I would never expect someone his age to say "mummy, door is locked, I need screwdriver" or "An-din-dander! (Alexander) Where are you? I got your dink". Lol

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Sarah, I DO remember you mentioning over here about your son's lack of talking forever ago now that you mention it! I remember people asking about first words and you wondering if Tobey was going to talk before Alexander. Thanks for the reminder! Biggrin

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i agree with the language explosion thing too. Nathaniel went from a few words and simple nodding of his head to yes or no questions to full on sentences within just a week or two. I posted on facebook the other day that dh asked him what he was doing one night and he happily said "making a mess!" I thought it it was even more funny because I had never heard him say anything like that. My mom was in town at the beginning of september and then came back a few weeks ago when i was in the hospital and couldn't get over the difference in the talking he was doing in just a few weeks. I think if he's acknowledging you and pointing to things that he's on the right track!

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Wow, Jackie, that's crazy that Aiden gets his own plate, bib, etc and sits down to eat. Maybe I should let Evan try that...Hmmmm...

KittyRN's picture
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Simon is proving me wrong today! Not only did he say "peepee dance" but after reading in the random chat thread, I got It's the great pumpkin charlie brown for Simon and he loves it! After it was done, he started saying"it's gone! it's gone! I'm mad!!!" LOL!!! We've watched it twice already because he gets sooooooo mad if it's not on!! What have I done!

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"alwayssmile" wrote:

Sarah, I DO remember you mentioning over here about your son's lack of talking forever ago now that you mention it! I remember people asking about first words and you wondering if Tobey was going to talk before Alexander. Thanks for the reminder! Biggrin

They started talking about the same time Lol I think that's why Tobey's language is so good, they learned to talk together Smile

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Lucas only has 1 or 2 couple word sentences. i would say he can say about 20-30 words, though they are definitely not consistant.