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Hey ladies

I had an appt today with the doctor for me (nothing new really) but we got to talking about Simon. She commented about how he's the biggest baby they've had there. She is concerned that he is BF too often and that he uses it for comfort. She also said that breastmilk is incomplete and that he needs table food.

I know he's a big boy, but he doesnt really eat tons or bad. I breastfeed him on demand yes, but he often refuses. She pretty much said she wants me to wean him and start by scheduling when he BFs and offereing to BF after he eats solids.

This all seems wrong to me. I dont know why he's huge. It doesnt feel like he eats tons. Ok, sometimes he does pack it away, but generally speaking I think he eats normally.

What do you think. He's 35 lbs now. Lol

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wtf! first of all, don't you have a ped? If i am wrong then sorry Lol

He is big, but lots of babies are big out there. I personally would ignore her. How many times a day do you bf him where he actually eats?

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I would personally do what the doctor is suggesting. If she is concerned he's put on too much weight, shes got reasons to say that to you, not to be mean or to get you to stop BFing.

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I think she is nuts for saying your breast milk isnt complete. Its the perfect food!!! She is a cwack to think jarred food, or even cut up food would better than breast milk..

Now if a baby were breastfeeding and not gaining or losing weight than it would make sense to add other foods into the mix, but to tell you to wean him because he is too big, I would be pissed.. (Oh and not mention if you stop breastfeeding you will have to replace that with milk or formula, so that doesnt really make sense)

I dont think her suggestion is a bad idea about offereing foods first or second, I usually offer breast and solids, in 1-2 meals, and then rest of the time its either breast milk, or cut up fruits and veggies..

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Well coming from a doctor you always wanna believe they are right. My 3 year old is 33lbs lol. But he is tiny for his age... I'd just schedule his feedings... No more on demand. That way you can control his calories. But your mommy! If your concerned and don't agree with that doctor, I'd go to another one. Smile

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Janice, he did have a ped, but that was for his reflux that is mostly gone, only spits up on occasion now.

I think I'm going to try doing the solids first at lunch and dinner from now on, but in the am still doing bf first since that is when he drinks best anyways. I cant imagine he's getting too many calories from bf really, since dont they always say you cant overfeed a bf baby? I dont know. I dont want him to be fat or anything, but I dont like to deny him if he's truly hungry.

And no, he's not really eating each time he bfs. Sometimes it's just for comfort. He likes to cuddle.

I know I need to get more fruits/veg into him though. He's been spitting it all out lately. Well not ALL, but he's just loving his carbs right now. Like his Mama! Smile

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k, I thought she was just a Dr. sticking her nose in Lol

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She WAS a doctor sticking her nose in. The appt was for me!!! LOL!

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What!! Yeah she def. was being a nose sticker inner!

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First of all, I wouldn't take tons of unsolicited nutrition advice from someone who tells you that BM is incomplete. It is the most complete food for babies. The only things it is lacking is vit D (which they are intended to get from sunlight) and, when they get older, iron, which they can easily get from other sources. No other table food is going to come close to that.

Is this the dr you see for the OCD about feeding him? The reason she may have felt compelled to comment is because she knows you have been on meds in the past for feeding compulsion, and maybe she is just trying to keep tabs on that?

Is he off the charts for height, too? If he's proportionate, I wouldn't worry. If he is of average height for age, I would be concerned about the weight. 35 pounds is a very big not-quite-one-year-old, although if it fits with his height then it's probably just normal for him.

At his age, I also don't think it would hurt any to start offering table foods first and then BF second. His weight gain should start slowing down as he gets older and more mobile. They can't keep gaining as much the 2nd year as they do the first year or they would be 100 pound 5 year olds! I know I was surprised to see how much my DD slowed down in gain after her first bday.

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I didn't think you could over breastfeed a baby. If you are wanting him to start eating more table foods then that is a good suggestion to offer the food first and breastfeed second since he will probably take to the food better if he is really hungry. But I don't think breastfeeding a lot is making him big, he probably is just a big baby and will even out later. If you want to cut down, you can try distracting him when you think it is just a cuddle he needs rather than to really eat, but I personally wouldn't force weaning too much.

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He is also a tall boy. Probably off the charts for height now as well. He was in the 95th percentile but seems to have grown alot of height too lately. But he is definitely chubby, but I wouldnt call him fat or anything. He's wearing size 2T but they are too long on him, but not crazy long, so he's not quite proportionate (but I'd think babies his age are naturally chubbier than a 2 year old).

I think I'm going to continue pretty much what I've been doing except maybe offering table food first and trying to get more fruit/veg in him. I love bf him so I dont want to give that up anywas.

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I have been waiting with bated breath since you posted this for Erin to jump in and freak out on your dr Biggrin Sorry, but I have been.

I had a big boy too! At 1 year, he was 29 lbs. He was completely OFF the charts for his weight and still off the chart for his height but not quite as much.

http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/growth/weight-toomuch.html

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I think you should go with your instincts. If he becomes more mobile and still stays chunky then I'd seriously look into why he's chunky, but for now I would just go with what works for you. I think it's a good idea to offer solids first at what would be your normal mealtimes, but more to encourage him to take more to solids. That's what I did with Lyla to try to get her to eat solids at all.

I also didn't think you were supposed to be able to overfeed a breastfed baby.

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Breastmilk is much better and complete than anything babies get out of table food. You know that and several ladies above me mentioned this too! That right there would have me ignoring her. Plus not every kid takes to solid foods as well as Aiden has. I don't think that's the fault of BM at all. Just that some aren't as into solids till later.

Here's what's going on here just for reference: I don't offer the boob to Aiden before meals. In fact, I really think recently he's replacing those old breast feeding sessions with solids. He doesn't want the boob around meal times at all. The boob is well loved in the mornings (I don't feed Aiden a solid breakfast very often), but the boob is just a snack during the day. He does get a good feeding right before bed. But Aiden turned our schedule to this. I didn't force him. I don't offer Aiden the boob anymore, instead, I wait for him to come to me and demand it (and instead of signing, Aiden has decided that he'd rather pull up on my leg and slap me while screaming :rolleyes:).

Stick to your mommy instincts.

I wouldn't freak out about his weight until after he's a full up walker running around. He'll probably slim down then. If it's an issue down the line, I'd look into medical reasons and not blame BFing in the least bit!

"laurensmitty1982" wrote:

Now if a baby were breastfeeding and not gaining or losing weight than it would make sense to add other foods into the mix, but to tell you to wean him because he is too big, I would be pissed.. (Oh and not mention if you stop breastfeeding you will have to replace that with milk or formula, so that doesnt really make sense)

THIS! Doesn't make sense to me since they need milk in some form!

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"momW" wrote:

I have been waiting with bated breath since you posted this for Erin to jump in and freak out on your dr Biggrin Sorry, but I have been.

OK, time for me to jump in. Wink

First off, your doc doesn't know what she's talking about. If she's not a pediatrician she has no place giving you bad advice about managing his weight. What ever you do, don't wean just because that under qualified drug jockey thinks it'll help stabilize his weight. Doctors are not all created equal nor are many trained broadly. That kind of advice should send you running for a new one. If you and he want to continue BFing, do it. Like BuckeyeK said, BM contains all that a baby needs in all the perfect proportions except for (and I'm not even positive I believe this) vitamin D and iron. BFing is most certainly not the sole cause of Simon's size. Many babies refuse all solids and nurse like maniacs well beyond this age and they do not gain weight at the clip he's been maintaining. Babies come in all shapes and sizes and big chunky babies often slim down to become lean mean toddlers. Point in case, my food-refusing, booby-obsessed munchkin. If you'll recall, Simon only started to outweigh her around the 5-6 month mark.

All that being said, I do think its worth having a chat with a pediatrician about his weight. Although rare, it is possible for a baby to be 'overweight' and it can lead to life long weight problems. There might be steps you can take now (not weaning!) and in the future to try and avoid weight problems later on. Its also possible, especially if weight issues run in your family, that there's a inherent metabolic reason for his weight. Knowing such things earlier rather than later could really help.

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I'd have told that doctor to stick her nose some where else. Don't let anyone tell you that you need to stop BFing him because of his size. Babies come big and small and it sounds like he is a good size for his height. I mean really, for all that doctor knows you are feeding him candy for every meal so she should be telling you to keep BFing so that he still gets all the good stuff from the BM. BTW I am NOT saying you are feeding him candy for every meal, just an example...lol.

It makes me so angry that this doctor told you to stop BFing him...grrr!

Yep, we don't really BF before a meal either. Odin does 3 main meals a day and only BF like 1 hour before breakfast. The other meals he still does a full nursing session after and has 3 other nursing sessions a day as well. He eats a ton and is a tiny peanut (literally 1/2 of Simon's size) so I don't always think the the amount of nursing and food intake totally contributes to a LO's size or weight. I'm sure there are other factors that totally come into play when looking at his size, like genetics, height, metabolizm, ect.

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I've not got anything to add that hasn't already been said. Like others have said if you feel it's an issue talk to his normal health care professional or seek a second opinion if you feel the need.

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35 pounds!?! My DD barely weighed that at her 3 YEAR check-up and she was in the 75th percentile for weight. :eek:

I'm not around all that much, but weren't there some issues with you possibly overfeeding him at some point? I think it would be difficult to overfeed a BF baby, but possibly if constantly forced upon them?? I don't know, but I'd certainly bring this up with your pedi.

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I admit in the past that I tried to overfeed him (giving him formula after BF to make sure he's getting enough, etc.) but I dont do that anymore. I offer the breast frequently (every 3 hours or so while awake) but dont force it. I definitely dont force solids, and there is no way I could since he just spits out what he doesnt want, or throws it on the floor.

I still dont think he eats tons of solids generally speaking....sometimes he does, but i would say thta most of the time he bf more than solids.

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I don't think you should stop bf him, or go soley on the advice of your doc who is by no means an expert on babies. However, I do think it would be a good idea to get a 2nd opinion from a pediatrician on his weight. 35 lbs does seem like a lot for a not-quite-1-yr-old. My DD is almost 3 and weighs in at 28 lbs, and she is not super tiny for her age either. There could be some other underlying issues, though it could be nothing at all. But if there are, I don't think bf has anything to do with it. I don't think it will hurt to offer solids though 1st, and to try to get him on a more structured feeding schedule. I forget by which age they are supposed to be eating a regular breakfast, lunch, and dinner like us w/ a few snacks in between, but that's what I am working on getting Lucas to. Right now he eats 2 solid meals/day plus 3 bottles then maybe a snack some days, depending on how hungry he is.

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I don't think you should stop bf him, or go soley on the advice of your doc who is by no means an expert on babies. However, I do think it would be a good idea to get a 2nd opinion from a pediatrician on his weight. 35 lbs does seem like a lot for a not-quite-1-yr-old. My DD is almost 3 and weighs in at 28 lbs, and she is not super tiny for her age either. There could be some other underlying issues, though it could be nothing at all. But if there are, I don't think bf has anything to do with it.

I agree with this. Tobey is a big boy and he weighs 22lbs. His brother is very tall for his age and only weighs 32lbs at nearly 3. IF there is something making him so big it has nothing to do with BF, I'm sure of it. I think I would get him seen by his ped though. 35lbs is a lot for a baby.

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Here's some science to back up what we all feel in our mommy guts:

"Studies have shown that exclusive breastfeeding — breastfeeding alone, not breastfeeding combined with bottle-feeding —prevents obesity," said Dr. David McCormick, senior author of the April study at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston. "Getting enough fiber — eating apples instead of drinking apple juice, for example — also helps keep babies on track to a healthy weight. By contrast, improper early introduction of cereal by adding it to an infant's bottle promotes obesity."

The news article that came from is here: http://www.livescience.com/10367-9-month-olds-obese-overweight.html

If you want the original journal article, I can probably get my hands on it.

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I sent an email to dr jack newman (bf specialist/ped) and he says that Simon sounds perfectly healthy, just large.

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Erin, I would like to see that study, if you can get it. I still have access to all kinds of journal articles and studies through the university here, but I can't find that particular article. I can get all kinds of genetics articles on cytokine gene polymorphisms or pharmacokinetics and of course disease research. Just reading the abstracts on those makes me dizzy.

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"KittyRN" wrote:

I sent an email to dr jack newman (bf specialist/ped) and he says that Simon sounds perfectly healthy, just large.

good thinking! i would have never thought to e-mail him.