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Ok Ladies here it is!

Ask questions, talk away!
All things BFing!! Latching, weight gain, etc.

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I struggled alot with DS1 & 2 to have enough milk. so this time i'm going to start out a bit different. Going to start pumping after nursing sessions right away. and i'm going to take fenugreek and eat the following 2 recipes right away to see if that helps, before i get frustrated.
What about the rest of you? what are you doing to give yourselves a good start?

Baked Oatmeal
Ingredients
3 cup(s) uncooked oatmeal
2/3 cup(s) dark brown sugar
2 tsp baking powder
1 tsp ground cinnamon
1/2 tsp table salt
4 Tbsp flax meal
4Tbsp brewers yeast
1/2 cup(s) unsweetened applesauce
1 tsp vanilla extract
2 large egg(s)
1 cup(s) 1% low-fat milk
3 cup(s) mixed berries, (or other fruit)

Instructions
Preheat oven to 350. Mix dry ingredients in bowl. Add wet ingredients. Stir together
and add fruit. Spead into lightly greased 9x9 or 8x8 pan. Bake 40-60 minutes
(longer for frozen berries). Serve warm with milk.

lactation cookies
I would eat 4 or more a day.
Servings: 12 dozen

Ingredients
1 C butter
1 C sugar
1 C brown sugar
4 T water
2 T flaxseed meal (no subs)
2 Lg eggs
1 t vanilla
2 C flour
1 t baking soda
1 t salt
3 C Thick cut oats
1 C Chocolate chips
2 T Brewers Yeast (no substitutions)

Preparation
Preheat oven at 375.

Mix 2 T of flaxseed meal and water, set aside 3-5 minutes.
Cream butter and sugar.
Add eggs.
Stir flaxseed mix into butter mix and add vanilla.
Beat until well blended.
Sift: dry ingredients, except oats and chocolate chips.
Add butter mix to dry ingredients
Stir in the oats and then the choc chips.
Drop on parchment paper on baking sheet.
Bake 8-12 minutes.

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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what about those 2 recipes is good or helps BFing?
They do look good... lol

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"squirrel27" wrote:

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what about those 2 recipes is good or helps BFing?
They do look good... lol

It's the oatmeal. It's supposed to help with your supply.

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Oats are great for supply. I had supply issues when DD hit about 7 months (related to my PCOS) and I ate oatmeal every single morning for a year...I would notice a drop in supply if I missed just one day. Hoppy beer also works pretty well. I ended up taking domperidone, which was my miracle drug...with it I was able to nurse DD until she weaned at 18 months.

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The brewers yeast and the flax meal are also key to milk production.

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With my 2nd I just tried the oatmeal to see if it really worked and I was pumping alot
I have a over supply as it is. and a fast let down.

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"joysiloo" wrote:

Oats are great for supply. I had supply issues when DD hit about 7 months (related to my PCOS) and I ate oatmeal every single morning for a year...I would notice a drop in supply if I missed just one day. Hoppy beer also works pretty well. I ended up taking domperidone, which was my miracle drug...with it I was able to nurse DD until she weaned at 18 months.

I had a low supply with DS as well but I wasn't on Metformin. I've since learned that Metformin can help with your supply. Not sure if you're on it or not but my endo. and my OB gave me the go ahead to take it while BFing. I'm hoping it helps!

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"squirrel27" wrote:

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what about those 2 recipes is good or helps BFing?
They do look good... lol

Yep, it's the oats. So if you like oatmeal, just eating a bowl for breakfast helps a lot (and doesn't have all the other yummy "junk" in it, ha ha). Brewer's yeast is good too, but I would do that as a "last resort" because of thrush. But I had a really atrocious experience with thrush, so I tend to avoid sugar and yeast as much as possible.

I was super fortunate and never had any supply issues with DD. Lots and lots and lots of water, and lots and lots of baby on the boob. Wink She'd litterally nurse for hours at a time for the first few weeks...long after she was done actually eating. I was her human pacifier. That being said, we ended up with the worst case of thrush my docs had ever seen, and then I got a plugged milk duct, which turned into mastitis, which I had to have cut open and drained, and it still didn't completely unclog until 1.5 weeks ago...yeah, I had a plugged duct for 15 months. :eek: I woudln't wish that on anyone!

But I'm worried this time around on how to BF a newborn AND a toddler the "right" way. DD is no where near being ready to wean, so this shall be interesting...

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"VCoates" wrote:

I had a low supply with DS as well but I wasn't on Metformin. I've since learned that Metformin can help with your supply. Not sure if you're on it or not but my endo. and my OB gave me the go ahead to take it while BFing. I'm hoping it helps!

I'm one of the 10% of PCOSers that doesn't have blood sugar issues. I have the cystic ovaries and some of the lovely side effects, but I'm not insulin resistant at all or overweight. I was on metformin for awhile when we were TTC Daphne and it actually made me pretty sick (low blood sugar). Hopefully it will work for you though! My problems with breastfeeding were related to the other hormonal imbalances related to PCOS.

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Short nurser?

If Ben only nurses for about 10-15 min on one side and is satisfied and does this about 10 times a day is this ok? It just seems soo fast. DS1 would take FOREVER to nurse and this just seems to fast. Is he a quick eater? or because his stomach is smaller? We go to the Dr. tomorrow for his two week, we'll see if he's gaining, but without knowing that he seems satisfied and generally happy.

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He's probably just really efficient. My DD used to take 45 minutes a side the first few weeks, but then she was able to get enough in about 10 minutes. As long as he seems satisfied, that's what matters.

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Alright... how about nursing with a cold?. What can I take?... sooo much info out there Im getting frustrated.. i can hardly breath my nose is running so much.. grrr...

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Have you looked on kellymom.com? It's pretty much the best breastfeeding resource out there.

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Joy this site is awesome.. i never saw it before TFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :udawoman:

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"Jessica." wrote:

Joy this site is awesome.. i never saw it before TFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :udawoman:

I'm glad you like it. I love it because all of the info is evidence based. I used that site so many times when I was nursing DD.

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Max is slightly tongue tied. His pedi saw him this morning and she didn't immediately suggest clipping it. I can't yet tell if it's interfering with DS's nursing as my nips are kind of tender already. The only thing I've noticed is that it usually takes me a few times to latch him as he doesn't seem to open his mouth wide enough. Do you know if this is realted to the tongue or something completely different?

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"Jessica." wrote:

If Ben only nurses for about 10-15 min on one side and is satisfied and does this about 10 times a day is this ok? It just seems soo fast. DS1 would take FOREVER to nurse and this just seems to fast. Is he a quick eater? or because his stomach is smaller? We go to the Dr. tomorrow for his two week, we'll see if he's gaining, but without knowing that he seems satisfied and generally happy.

Alex does this. He nurses for a short amount of time but often and then tries to sleep through the night-- yep, last night, I accidently let him. We went to bed at 11 and didn't wake up till 9!!! My breasts were so sore!!! I flipped, too! I was like, omg, I didn't feed my baby all night! I'm setting an alarm this evening b/c I just did not like the idea of him going all night without eating at only 4 days old. But he is pooing and peeing a TON so I know he's getting enough. He goes to the doctor tomorrow--curious to see how much he's gained. He lost 6 oz. so we went down to 9 lbs. before my milk came in and he's already got the lil belly going on. Smile

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I didn't know a baby needed to be burped as often as alex does after breastfeeding. i always assumed they didn't need to be burped much but geez, i dunno how he does it, but he will quit nursing and i know he needs to be burped and he will belch so loud, lol. Smile

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"WonderWomanExtrodinare" wrote:

I didn't know a baby needed to be burped as often as alex does after breastfeeding. i always assumed they didn't need to be burped much but geez, i dunno how he does it, but he will quit nursing and i know he needs to be burped and he will belch so loud, lol. Smile

dd was the same way, I had to stop her half way through to burp her otherwise she would spit up everytime. Calvin just does afterwards and is fine.

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Alex is trying to sleep through the night. The pedi. said today that he will have prolly exceeded his birth weight by a good bit by his two week app. next week and he wouldn't mind if I let him sleep through the night but my question is this-- my breasts are already so swollen and full with him nursing just twice a night-- will this get better? It's a relief to wake him up and let him nurse b/c they are quite uncomfy.

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It will get better, but if you don't wake him to nurse or pump now, it might be rough when he hits his 2 and 6 week growth spurts supply wise. If it's uncomfortable, you could pump once and build a little stash in your freezer. Otherwise, your body will adjust after a few days.

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HELP!!!!!

How do I build up my supply? Poetrie wouldn't stay latched on and wouldn't give me time to pump. So I kinda stopped. But now formula isn't working for her and I need to BF because it's,the formula, is making here constipated.

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"gdsgft007" wrote:

How do I build up my supply? Poetrie wouldn't stay latched on and wouldn't give me time to pump. So I kinda stopped. But now formula isn't working for her and I need to BF because it's,the formula, is making here constipated.

Have you tried feeding her with an SNS feeder until your supply builds? You're also probably going to have to pump for awhile...it's hard to find the time, but the first 6 weeks are crucial for your supply.

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"joysiloo" wrote:

Have you tried feeding her with an SNS feeder until your supply builds? You're also probably going to have to pump for awhile...it's hard to find the time, but the first 6 weeks are crucial for your supply.

I second this. You might also look into Fenugreek. There are also rx meds you can take, like Reglan and Domperidone. The Reglan you can get from your OB but the other you have to order online as it's not sold here in the US. But I did use Domp. with DS1 and noticed a difference.

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What is a SNS feeder and where can I get it? Also did either of the meds cause a reaction in your DS1?

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Thank you so much. I'm going to purchase it ASAP.

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"gdsgft007" wrote:

Thank you so much. I'm going to purchase it ASAP.

Also check out the hospital where you had her. I got mine from the hospital.

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joysiloo, i'm posting the link you posted the other day to that blog-- hope you don't mind but it was so helpful to me, thought it'd be good for the thread. Smile

http://theleakyboob.com/2011/08/baby...born-behavior/

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"VCoates" wrote:

Also check out the hospital where you had her. I got mine from the hospital.

I will definitely do that. Thanks Ladies!

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I hope you get it worked out for little Poetrie! I know of several people who had great results with both the SNS and the fenugreek.
Ugh, Camdyn is nursing every hour today and she barely slept between feedings last night. She must be hitting her 2-3 week growth spurt. I forgot how sleep-deprived I get first several weeks.

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I hope you get it worked out for little Poetrie! I know of several people who had great results with both the SNS and the fenugreek.
Ugh, Camdyn is nursing every hour today and she barely slept between feedings last night. She must be hitting her 2-3 week growth spurt. I forgot how sleep-deprived I get first several weeks.

You're telling me about sleep deprivation. I had completely forgotten how sleep deprived you get. I'm not quite able to nurse laying down just yet but hopefully in the next couple of weeks we'll get there. That was my saving grace with Alex!

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Funny Sleep Deprived moment... last night I was dreaming that put Baby Ben on my head in some sort of baby wearing device/hat and I kept asking DH to help me get him down in my sleep.. turned out DS1 had climbed in our bed and WAS sleeping on my head... I was soo sleepy I didn't know it was somewhat real.

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"Jessica." wrote:

Funny Sleep Deprived moment... last night I was dreaming that put Baby Ben on my head in some sort of baby wearing device/hat and I kept asking DH to help me get him down in my sleep.. turned out DS1 had climbed in our bed and WAS sleeping on my head... I was soo sleepy I didn't know it was somewhat real.

Bwahahahaha!!!

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That is so funny, Jessica! Sleep deprivation will do crazy things to you. Smile

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We are in clustering feedings. My milk hasn't come in yet. I am know letting her sleep until she wakes up and will feed her then until she is full. It's hard because she falls asleep or latches and stops and delatches and then we try again.

I just hope that's normal.

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Here's a really dumb question. Is it okay after she has fed and we get get her to sleep she sleeps on her side? She falls asleep that way and she seems to sleep better that way. We put her back in her bassinet on her back, for 2-3 hours she sleeps on her side.

Sorry first time mom worried about SIDs and everything else that can harm her, lol

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"KerriWeasel" wrote:

We are in clustering feedings. My milk hasn't come in yet. I am know letting her sleep until she wakes up and will feed her then until she is full. It's hard because she falls asleep or latches and stops and delatches and then we try again.

I just hope that's normal.

It's normal for them to cluster feed like this early on and the falling asleep is just because she's newborn. Try taking her down to her diaper and do skin to skin contact while nursing her. Or tickle her feet.

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Here's a really dumb question. Is it okay after she has fed and we get get her to sleep she sleeps on her side? She falls asleep that way and she seems to sleep better that way. We put her back in her bassinet on her back, for 2-3 hours she sleeps on her side.

Sorry first time mom worried about SIDs and everything else that can harm her, lol

How do you put her on her side? Do you have a positioner for her? We always put Max on his back in the rock n play sleeper. When my older son was younger we would put him on his stomach occasionally but not till he was older and we would find him sleeping on his stomach. He just liked it better. But that wasn't till around 6 months or so.

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Lactation coach....

First of all I would like to thank you Ladies for all of the wonderful advice I received in my previous post.

I contacted a lactation coach and she informed me that my pump may not be sufficient enough for what I am trying to accomplish and that I may have more milk than I think. The pump that I have is for mothers who only pump 3xs a day. So she set me up to rent a hospital grade pump. She also said that I should offer my breast to my dd instead of a pacifier and that she may get upset at first but she would get used to it. That has been going really well. The hard part she said would be to pump up to 8 hrs per day. Which would mean that every time the baby is fed I have to pump until my supply builds up enough to replace the bottles. So I must be dedicated and determined(which I am).

I pick up the pump on Monday. Super excited. I am scheduled to meet with her next month on the 23rd so she can check my milk supply. If it's still low then we will have to go another route

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Kerri, she sounds like she's doing very normal newborn feedings. Those cluster feedings are really good for getting your milk to come in.
I've read that if you put them on their side to extend the lower arm out in front of their body to keep them from rolling onto their stomach.

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"gdsgft007" wrote:

First of all I would like to thank you Ladies for all of the wonderful advice I received in my previous post.

I contacted a lactation coach and she informed me that my pump may not be sufficient enough for what I am trying to accomplish and that I may have more milk than I think. The pump that I have is for mothers who only pump 3xs a day. So she set me up to rent a hospital grade pump. She also said that I should offer my breast to my dd instead of a pacifier and that she may get upset at first but she would get used to it. That has been going really well. The hard part she said would be to pump up to 8 hrs per day. Which would mean that every time the baby is fed I have to pump until my supply builds up enough to replace the bottles. So I must be dedicated and determined(which I am).

I pick up the pump on Monday. Super excited. I am scheduled to meet with her next month on the 23rd so she can check my milk supply. If it's still low then we will have to go another route

I am so glad you found a lactation consultant- they are wonderful! Great job sticking with it. I really hope it works out easily for you!

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okay ladies so last night our first night home, last night was way rough, it seemed as if Lilly was using me as a paci. i couldn't set her own for more than 5 min without her screaming. Dh was great about trying to calm her while i went potty and when i got hungry. it was like one huge long cluster feed. I broke down and called the Lactation consultant she said it was normal and to keep at it. she said my milk should start transitioning and it did:D

It happened this after noon and i accidentally sprayed her in the face. lol

Anyway I didn't want to break down and give her a paci, but she loves to comfort suck, and I refuse to fall asleep with her.

I only got a nap because my mom let her suck on her pinky finger and Lilly finally slept / stopped crying, and I got to sleep.

So I still really didn't want to give in to the paci but I did. this afternoon and got another full 3 hours of sleep.

so my question is do you think it is ok as long as i continue to feed her every 2-3 hours and when she is actually hungry?

I was so worried about nipple confusion but she has a great latch. And she still seems to nurse well so far.

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okay ladies so last night our first night home, last night was way rough, it seemed as if Lilly was using me as a paci. i couldn't set her own for more than 5 min without her screaming. Dh was great about trying to calm her while i went potty and when i got hungry. it was like one huge long cluster feed. I broke down and called the Lactation consultant she said it was normal and to keep at it. she said my milk should start transitioning and it did:D

It happened this after noon and i accidentally sprayed her in the face. lol

Anyway I didn't want to break down and give her a paci, but she loves to comfort suck, and I refuse to fall asleep with her.

I only got a nap because my mom let her suck on her pinky finger and Lilly finally slept / stopped crying, and I got to sleep.

So I still really didn't want to give in to the paci but I did. this afternoon and got another full 3 hours of sleep.

so my question is do you think it is ok as long as i continue to feed her every 2-3 hours and when she is actually hungry?

I was so worried about nipple confusion but she has a great latch. And she still seems to nurse well so far.

Most lc's and everything you read will say to avoid the paci for awhile for bfing babies. I think you should use a paci sparingly within the first 10-14 days as that helps your supply for the time you bf. That being said, we have given max a paci occasionally but he doesn't seem to like it much.

My advice would be just to use it sparingly. She may only be doing this temporarily. A couple days ago max was nursing every 30 minutes to an hour but stopped that. They go thru growth spurts as well and will nurse a lot more.

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This is going to be log and I took most of it from my blog (I blogged about it because it makes me feel better and because it's easier to have a few friends look at that and give advice rather than have to repeat myself). If you guys have any advice, I'm all ears - if you want to read all of this. I know it's long and I apologize.

Lizzie was born at 7:10 Tuesday. About an hour after birth I tried breastfeeding. I think I got somewhere. It wasn't for long. I tried again later. She didn't sleep but for a few hours that first night. Come to think about it I think she slept for 4 hours total. The hospital was inundated with woman in labor. 14 had came in and the next morning we found out they had 23 births Since Tuesday morning.

A lactation nurse (LC) came in and made sure we had it down and was feeding correctly. I have to use a nipple shield because my nipples won't pop out and Lizzie can't get a good latch. (On Friday, a nurse got my boob in her mouth, but I can't do it). We must have been we had almost 5 dirty diapers (BMS) and 4 wet (W). But the poor child was up most of the night choking on left over amniotic fluid and a bit of my blood. Talk about scare the heck out of two first time parents. We were lucky enough to have a nurse come in and take her to a nursery for only and walk with her around the labor and delivery floor for about another hour.

On Wednesday we started to feed again and once again, I felt like I wasn't doing anything correctly. I can't and still can't tell if she is swallowing. My colostrum is clear and I had and still have trouble expressing it. I know it must be there because she is making BMs and Ws. We had issues and a nurse showed us a trick of adding a bit of sugar water under my nipple shield to get her to suck. The damn nipple shield kept coming unstuck and seemed to be a hinder more than a help and we are still having problems. However, like I said before I can't get my nipples big enough for her to suck. We even got her started on a paci. We only use that to sooth her when I have exhausted myself. I'm worried that I am using too much sugar water - but I'll get tot that.

Which gets us to Wednesday night. A bit of the same. She was fussy, didn't seem to stay latched on and would latch and relatch. A LC nurse came around and once again said I was doing everything right and everything was normal. If everything was so normal why does she unlatch and then cry and whine? I was told it was because I am not producing fast enough for her and she can't understand that. And it seemed like there isn't much to do but like I had been told at least a dozen times already it will change once your milk comes in. Thanks. That helps a worried first time parent in the hospital with a baby who hasn't slept for more than maybe 5 hours and doesn't seem like she is getting enough food.

Anyway - the nurse from the night before came in and made sure I was doing everything I could. She also noticed how tired I was (dear husband (DH) and I had not gotten any sleep) and took Lizzie for a few hours. She brought her back around 2:30 and Lizzie ate off and on until 3:30. She was taken again to the nursery close to 4 and was returned to us around 6:45 after having her bilirubin. She was just on the tiny bit of high on that and we were told we would have to have the test repeated later. I tried to feed her again and it was off and she would shake her head so crazy and the try to relatch and cry. This has been a constant lately.

This brings to Thursday morning. We are to be released today. Anew nurse came in and helped me with Lizzie's feeding. I told her the nipple shield kept coming off and she got my boob in her mouth. My left boob - the one that is bigger than the other - got in her mouth! I was shocked and relieved. She feed there for maybe ten minutes and came unlatched and started again the off and on again. I then remembered what I was told the day before about cluster feeding. And I guess this is what is going on still.

The doctor came in and explained everything about her bilirubin and said that she was barely on the high side. They were going to repeat the test to see if it got any better or worse. I remember something about not eating enough or something. I know Wednesday her diaper count and slowed down to what we were told (i.e. day 3 2 BMS and 3 W). She had plenty of W but not enough BMs. I thought that was the problem. We had the test repeated and she was right in the middle and told to follow up with our pedi on Monday. We have made the appointment and honestly I can't wait. We were released but Lizzie needed to feed again. This took almost 2 hours. Lizzie did the latch on latch off, shake head get angry. I switch off between boobs but still. We finally got her settled and took off from home.

Thursday when we got home, she nursed 26 minutes on side and 21 on the other. We had the same kind of issues off and on but finally at 9 she slept for 4 and 1/2 hours. We weren't surprised because of the lack of sleep she got while in the hospital.

Friday was a tough one. It seemed like all we did was nurse these little tiny feedings. We would get set and she would pull herself off and scream in anger. It seemed like she wanted to come faster than it could. She would latch, stay put, drift off to sleep, we would wake her and then she would get angry an scream and thrash her head back and forth. This also was a big issue on Saturday.

Then we made a big mistake - our what we felt was a big mistake on Friday night - we gave her a sponge bath around 9. We did it after a feeding. We figured she was good and settled. Yeah, no. She hated it. We kind of figured she would. She had a few open air accidents. When we got done we did everything we could to settle her down. We finally tried feeding and it went into more of the same fight. She wouldn't latch, then latch, then get angry. This was an all night event.

Sunday morning seemed to start off better. But more of the same when it came to feeding. She also seemed to take little 30-45 minute naps and then want to eat. We started to sooth her back to sleep with a paci - for my sanity. Finally, Sunday evening we had two breakthroughs. 1. She latched on without a shield! 2. I could actually see quite a bit of colostrum. Yay! She slept for a bit and I finally ate like a champ.

That's something I forgot. I haven't had much of an appetite. I think this has a lot to do with my supply coming in and actually seeing colostrum.

When she woke up - I fed her again. However, we could not get a good latch without using a nipple shield. I was so upset. I also had problems seeing colostrum. It felt like two steps forward 100 steps back. She started her screaming at the nipple after being latched for only five minutes and did her trashing. I tried each breasts but same issues. I did this for 2 hours. Finally, I had to walk away and give her to my DH and mom. I felt terrible.

I slept for a few hour and got up to feed her again. To my surprise, when I was feeding her, she stayed on for awhile until that damn shield popped off. Guess what was there a kind of clear, flow of liquid running out of my nipple. I was excited and happy. Progress. The liquid in the shield look milky - so I am thinking my milk is starting to come in. She fell asleep on that breast. When we did get her awake and move her to the other breast to try without a guard she got upset and started doing her angry feeding. (She did that with the first breast). What I did noticed with the first breast is that she passed an amazing amount of gas. Enough for my DH to think it was me. That's when we tried the other breast without the guard. My nipples just don't come out far enough. We tried everything to get it them to come out - no luck. We went back to the guard and she finally latched to sleep.

She slept for 35 minutes and woke. We changed her diaper and this is kind of where we are right now. We don't think she has to eat, but she is screaming. We aren't sure if it's gas or if she really is hungry. Time will tell. She had a bit of blood in her diaper - but I think it was her period blood. But she hasn't had any for a day or so until now. But she hasn't had a lot of wets.

okay - so we just fed for 25 minutes on each breast. More clear liquid - actually a ton of clearish liquid poured out. I'm hoping this is my milk. My boobs are actually a ton bigger. Not a whole lot firmer but, let's just say I'm excited and relieved.

What we are not doing and helping ease stress over this: We aren't looking at the standard guide of how many BMs and Ws she has. We keep it in mind, but when I started to think about her missing Ws, I freaked.

We also got an app for our iPhones and iPad called Baby Connect. They also have a website. This allows to keep track of everything and has been damn helpful. Plus, we cna email it our print the entire log or certain logs to the doctor.

And to end with all this, let me just say my mom has been a big help.Even if she was one of the ones in the middle of my frustration and hers said maybe you cna't breastfeed - sending me into a ****ing crying fit. Sometimes I have not been happy with her and I'm sure it has been the same way. My DH has been nothing but wonderful and supportive. We are such a wonderful team. And through my tears and frustrations with trying to get Lizzie to feed, he has googled, research shown me videos and made me feel like I'm the best mom in the world. He has helped me realize that Lizzie's crying or not being able to feed perfectly is not my fault. For the record I don't blame my daughter for anything...some people do. She doesn't know.

Will the rest of today be hard? Will we have a crying baby that won't latch? Probably. Am I a bit hopeful knowing I'm lactating better? yes. I hundred times more hopeful then I was yesterday.

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The early days of breast feeding are very hard, especially with a first baby. My nipples were pretty flat with DD and I used a nipple shield for about a month before weaning off. It sounds like you guys are doing well. I would expect it to be hard for awhile yet. The first six weeks is when your supply is established, so if you can avoid using the paci and bottles and let your breasts be the paci (difficult and exhausting, I know), you'll get a better supply going.

Also, make sure to check out kellymom.com for ideas on latching and using a nipple shield.

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Thanks for the site advice!! I look into that. The shield is almost more trouble thanits worth at times. Thanks for reading as well. It's nice to know I'm not alone and you guys are here for support.

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Kerri, just to let you know I have to nurse with the shield on my left boob but not my right? humm.. still trying to wean off of it. Stick with nursing... it gets better. Im trying to master the art of public feeding now.. i refuse to be stuck in my house in the weather.

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Kerri, i sympathize with alot of what you said. I got zero colostrum into her! She latched twice when the LC was there while i was in the hospital, only for about 3 sucks, then she let go. i couldnt get her to latch again and was so dissappointed and felt like a complete failure cause i had to feed Kendra formula for the first 5 days. Sad The thursday after she was born we had an appt with the LC and we tried the nipple shield with a little formula or breast milk to put on the shield to get her to suckle and WALA!! SUCCESS! like you, i have a hard time with the shield and can only get her latched if she is in the football position. Its the only way i can get her latched MYSELF i guess i should say. Kendra keeps her fists up by her mouth so trying to juggle positioning her, the shield and moving her fists out of the way is VERY challenging!! At this point im just glad that she is feeding from me. now, i am up to about an ounce and half inmy left breast and an ounce in my right. The LC wants me to BF every 2 hours and pump randomly twice a day. I end up pumping about 3x a day. she says it will keep my supply up through out the day and so far its working. but she only wants to eat every 3-4 hours and i cant completely keep up with her. i am having to mix a little formula in during the day too, but the bulk of it is from me. Seems like she feeds and falls asleep, and when she sleeps there is NO waking that child. so i pump a little more adn within 15 minutes she's ready to eat again so i feed her my milk in a bottle. Is this cluster feeding?

With that said, i am worried a little cause for the last 2 days there has been this big area on the underside of my right breast that i cant get to release milk. I am hoping it is milk anyways, cause it kinda feels like its going sideways, kinda elongated, KWIM? DH and i both have tried to massage it but nothing helps. It doesnt hurt at all but I am starting to worry. Is this normal? I am a very paranoid and worrysome person LOL so i am probably making a mountain out of a moe hill....

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"countrygirl83" wrote:

I am so glad you found a lactation consultant- they are wonderful! Great job sticking with it. I really hope it works out easily for you!

Thanks for the encouragement!

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I'm coming here just to vent. The past 3 nights DS has been waking up every 2 hours exactly to nurse. Before that he was going sometimes 3 hours between feedings. But now he seems to nurse more frequently at night than during the day. I'm trying to enjoy these quiet moments with my sweet boy at night but sometimes its difficult.

I do have a question though. Alex never needed to burp after nursing. But Max sometimes does. I know it's less common for nursing babies to need to burp. How often do you attempt to burp before you stop? Sometimes Max will burp and sometimes he won't but I don't know how long I should try before I stop.

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