Introduction and needed advice...

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Introduction and needed advice...

I thought I would take a second to introduce myself (while I have the time!). My name is Krista and I gave birth to my twins on Sept 6 after a pretty hairy delivery. My son is Bradley David born @ 8:51pm weighing 5lb 12 oz and our daughter Kaylee Marie was born @ 9:52 (although they told us 10pm originally) weighing 5lb 1 oz. Both babies spent 5 days in the NICU but are doing amazing now after discharge. We had our first doctors appt. on Wed and they both have gained weight and have grown in length.

Now, I need some advice. At the hospital I was having a hard time getting them to breast feed. So, just wanted our children out of the NICU and them feeding well being one of the requirements, we decided to just pump and bottle feed. When I got home, I start BFing again and both babies have taken to it Yahoo BUT now they are using it as a pacifier. They both want to fall asleep with my nipple in their mouth and the minute I try to put them in their bed, they wake up wanting my breast again. I literally had a baby on my breast every hr last night. What can I do? And the only way I get them to sleep for 3-4 hrs is when I am holding them. If I put them to bed they only sleep for 2 hrs. HELP what do I do? I want to breastfeed but right now I don't have time to sleep or eat becasue they are on me. I have tried tandum feeding but I'm not good enough at it yet to use it regularly.

Any advice would be greatly appreciate....I need some sleep!

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Congrats and welcome!
I won't give you any advice. I shouldn't even try. Once we got them out of the NICU, where BFing was a high-stress experience and where the nurses kept giving them bottles of formula whenever I turned my back, my kids also decided they loved nursing and totally used me as a pacifier and never, ever wanted to be put down. I did what you are doing now for six months. I barely bathed, ate, slept... Some days I was so tired I thought I was going to keel over. I always had at least one baby in my arms or in a carrying scarf or lying next to me in bed, and usually attached to my breast. I gave up when they were about 6 months old and started co-sleeping for real, and finally got some sleep myself.

Can you nurse one of them lying down and doze a bit? That must be what moms of singletons do to get some sleep. Whenever I tried it and got comfortable and started to drift off the second baby woke up and wanted in on the action. It was a disaster. As soon as they could hold their heads up it was better: one lying facing me, the other draped over my side. We still do this so I can nap while they nurse.

They are glowingly healthy and I think we have an extra-special bond, so that makes up for the early exhaustion, right? Smile They still breastfeed a lot at nearly 17 months but things are much easier now.
I hope you find advice here that will work for you.

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"Laetissima" wrote:

Congrats and welcome!
I won't give you any advice. I shouldn't even try. Once we got them out of the NICU, where BFing was a high-stress experience and where the nurses kept giving them bottles of formula whenever I turned my back, my kids also decided they loved nursing and totally used me as a pacifier and never, ever wanted to be put down. I did what you are doing now for six months. I barely bathed, ate, slept... Some days I was so tired I thought I was going to keel over. I always had at least one baby in my arms or in a carrying scarf or lying next to me in bed, and usually attached to my breast. I gave up when they were about 6 months old and started co-sleeping for real, and finally got some sleep myself.

Can you nurse one of them lying down and doze a bit? That must be what moms of singletons do to get some sleep. Whenever I tried it and got comfortable and started to drift off the second baby woke up and wanted in on the action.

This pretty much sums up my life! I can't put them down and they are constantly attached to my breast. And I tried to do the lay down feeds but, exactly like you said, the other one wakes up and wants in. I'm glad to know that someone else went through the same thing, I was starting to think I was doing something wrong. I'm going to stick with it for as long as possible, like you said when they get older, it will get better (I'm praying). Thanks, I appreciate it.

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Have you tried giving them a paci after you are done nursing? It sounds like they have a high need to suck, and this could help them. With my first, our doc advised me to go get several different brands of paci and keep trying until I found one she would take. I had to be persistent, but she did eventually settle on one, and it saved me!

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Hugs! Been there done that as well. These boys did sleep a little better than my singletons, but since there were two, I think I slept much worse. lol. At about 4mo my dh was very strict about getting them on a bedtime schedule, which did involve a little more crying than I liked, but now, I am soo sooo soooooo thankful. They started sleeping better then, once they were used to it, and naps got better too. They never cried for more than 10min, but obviously your babies are too little for that now. Sleep when you can, and don't be surprised if you wake up sitting in a chair multiple times a day (heck, I still do that. lol. My boys are almost 21 mo and still not sleeping through the nights, and still nursing).

But I second Tania, I had a friend whose first baby took right to the binky, number two not so much, and she tried at least 10 different brands before she found one he took too, but it was a lifesaver in the end. Some babies really need to suck more, and with one I always just let them nurse because it was easy, but with two it was harder for sure. I did get them to sleep in the swing a lot as well, since the movement put them to sleep (boring swings, no lights or music, just swinging). Those swings were lifesavers, and I worried about how we would get them to sleep in their cribs, but it was fine eventually. Wink

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Thanks ladies, we tired paci. They do take to them, but only for a few minutes and then want back on. I hate to say it, because I did not want to supplement, but we tired it, bfing till they fell asleep and then gave them a bottle of formula till they fell back asleep and they slept through for over 4 hrs. I guess I really am just not producing enough at night. I hate giving them the bottle because I am scared of nipple confusion but for the first night in 3 night, my son slept with falling asleep in the bed with us. I acutally got a decent night sleep and feeling amazing today. I have a feeling they are both going through a growth spurt so that may be way I'm not making enough. We are still strictly bfing during the day so I hope that gets my supply up.

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Hey there! There is one rule for the first year with twins: do what it takes to survive. It is a daunting, overwhelming, sleep deprived existence. Do not feel guilty for doing what you need to do to get some rest and take care of yourself. Those babies are going to be just fine getting a little bit in a bottle at night.

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Krista, I could have written this post! I am tandom nursing, but the girls always want to be on me OR very close. I have even started to co-sleep just so that I can get some rest...this is something I did NOT want to do :confused: If I find a miracle cure I will let you know! LOL

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I think you are just fine to give them a bottle to help them sleep a little longer. Keep working on your supply during the day, and know that an overtired momma is going to have trouble with supply as well, so if they are getting fed and you are all sleeping, it is a win-win. Wink

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"melnzai" wrote:

There is one rule for the first year with twins: do what it takes to survive. It is a daunting, overwhelming, sleep deprived existence.

This is what I have discovered! We had two successful night with bottle feeding and I feel like a million bucks!

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"bamsmom" wrote:

Krista, I could have written this post! I am tandom nursing, but the girls always want to be on me OR very close. I have even started to co-sleep just so that I can get some rest...this is something I did NOT want to do :confused: If I find a miracle cure I will let you know! LOL

LOL, that funny about the co-sleeping...with DD1 my husband hated that I was so-sleeping with her and would not sleep in the bed if she was for fear that he would roll on her. With these guys, hes not so opposed...maybe because they would actually sleep that way!

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I can't offer much help, but I can say I kinda feel your pain. Just in the not producing enough though. I replied to say nipple confusion doesn't always happen. I feel like bf was major pressured in the hospital, but nobody really had time to help me, so we ended up bottle feeding with me pumping. At home I started bf a little bit...but then my pump broke. I was on a bf binge as I called it. Somebody bf each feeding. I still try to do that even though I have a new pump. The only problem I had was with Zach who was too frantic a few weeks ago. Now, all three bf if the option is given to them, but they also are more than willing to take a bottle. And they take paci's (but only like the ones from the hospital). So, I hope that helps you believe that nipple confusion doesn't always happen. Either that or my kiddos are WAY confused! LOL Smile

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I second Steph, nipple confusion does not always happen. I bottle fed somewhat with my dd, because of her weight loss the ped said to give a formula bottle after every other feed, so we did that for 2mo, and then when she was 4mo I went back to work part time, so dh gave her 1 bottle each night when I was gone, and she never had problems.

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"krista83" wrote:

This is what I have discovered! We had two successful night with bottle feeding and I feel like a million bucks!

Yay! We also used swaddle blankets (by Halo or Summer Infant). I cannot say enough good things about those things. Awesome inventions!

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"3-o-me" wrote:

I can't offer much help, but I can say I kinda feel your pain. Just in the not producing enough though. I replied to say nipple confusion doesn't always happen. I feel like bf was major pressured in the hospital, but nobody really had time to help me, so we ended up bottle feeding with me pumping. At home I started bf a little bit...but then my pump broke. I was on a bf binge as I called it. Somebody bf each feeding. I still try to do that even though I have a new pump. The only problem I had was with Zach who was too frantic a few weeks ago. Now, all three bf if the option is given to them, but they also are more than willing to take a bottle. And they take paci's (but only like the ones from the hospital). So, I hope that helps you believe that nipple confusion doesn't always happen. Either that or my kiddos are WAY confused! LOL Smile

Ditto this... my kids had no nipple confusion either, be it bottle or nuks of various brands. They simply wanted to eat and weren't picky with how it was given! I didn't produce enough at all even with medication to stimulate. They had to be supplemented as well. One thing that helped me feel better was knowing approximately how much I was producing (only 1-2 oz per feeding - not much at all) when they were at 4-6 oz. at a couple weeks old. We were all happier when I knew it wasn't for my lack of trying and knowing they were fed and satisfied. So what I did was I nursed first and then supplemented in the same feedings. Win-win! Smile