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    No, its not a post for me missing my naps.

    The boys are being quite the stinkers about napping lately. The last week or so they just mostly refuse to, I can hear them playing and what not, but they know its nap time, so they don't cry to get out. Eventually they fall asleep on the floor and wake up maybe 30min later, which is just not enough. When they miss their nap or take a short one they are seriously grouchy come about 6pm (bedtime is at . I mean screaming about anything and everything for the next 1.5-2hrs. Its awful! The last few weeks they have also learned to somehow get the child doorknob lock off their door. They don't take it off every day, but every few days, and then they come out. Today they did this, and when I went back upstairs to put them in bed Abram was showing me his hand, "ow hand". and his fingers were bleeding, I asked what he hurt it on and he said, "winnow" I ran for their bedroom, and thankfully the window was not broken, but their cheapie blinds are all bent up, so I am assuming that it what he cut his finger on.

    I have a friend with 4yr twin girls who were just a handful. She said she sat in their room on the floor at naptime for a year! A year! And that now (at 4) they have no problems and will stay in their room even with the door wide open. For one, I don't know that it would work with my clingy babies, I think they would just be wanting me to hold them, so I would have to stand the entire time, and even then, I just don't know. For two, that is not always feasible. Nap time is often my only time to get showered or have a minute to use the bathroom in peace, or relax for a minute. lol. And a few times a week I watch my cousin's daughter who is almost 3. I can leave her unattended to play for a few minutes while I get the boys down, but not longer than that. My friend had an older child too, probably preschool age at the time.

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    I unfortunately don't have any advice but them falling asleep on the floor would be pretty cute to see. I don't think I'd be able to sleep on the floor for a year. I'd cave long before that and just let them stay awake. My guys actually like their Naps (they just don't sleep at night although that might be changing ) so I'm hoping that continues when they are older.
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    We are in the same boat here!! I hear them tumbling around and making noise, kicking the crib bars, etc. Sometimes Isaac will fall asleep for a half hour or so, but most times he just lays there and cries because he is so tired and Gabe won't be quiet. I feel awful but I don't know what to do. It is so frustrating, and Steve does not understand, because he works in the evenings so I'm the one dealing with the boys in the evening when they are FUSSY! I tried a longer routine, reading them more stories, trying to get them to calm down, but nothing seems to work.
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    Our girls are wild in their cribs. Thankfully, once they are asleep it is for a few hours. They have even removed all of their clothes. Craig found K wearing her pull up as a skirt the other day when he got them up from their nap. I know this is the reason why the girls will remain in their cribs until age 3, if possible. They are just not ready for freedom for naps or at night. I wil say that we wait them out too. They go down and sometimes they play for well over an hour before they sleep. It is frustrating to hear it, but we make them stay in there and we do not get them out until they have slept for a while and wake up on their own. Of course, that does not solve your half-hour nap problem.

    The only thing I can think of is to put up a gate at their door instead of the child proof lock and play white noise outside of their door. It will drown out house noise and may help them calm down some. How long are they sleeping at night? Most kids this age need about 12ish hours of sleep total. So, if they are getting over 10 at night, they may not need more than an hour for their nap. The real problem I see is that developmentally, they are just not ready to follow through with following directions yet. So, to tell them to stay in their bed or to lay down is just an exercise in futility for you. They know what it means, but they don't really know that they should always do that, kwim? Also, they reinforce each other with their play, which is a battle that is hard to fight.

    I do not think staying in their room is going to help you at all. It does not give you a break and it does not allow them to learn to self-regulate on their own. I think you are going to have to wait it out. Eventually, I think they will nap a little better for you. You may have to find some light blocking shades instead of the blinds though. We need to do that too. The girls have ruined the cheap blinds we have in their room.
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    Here is an interesting article I found on the Today Show's website. It is not about naps, but about sleep and sleep training. I think the best part of it was emphasizing that just like adults, all kids are different and the amount of sleep they need is different.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/433444...ng_and_family/

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    Mel, I will read the article later, thanks!

    I am glad to know I am not alone in this. They go to bed at 8pm and typically wake up at 7am, so 11hrs. But I don't want to put them to bed later than 8pm, since that is a little bit of alone time with the older kids and/or dh. But they are so stinking grouchy. This morning they were plenty grouchy too, and as Abram was crying and fussing in my arms he said, "nap!" about 3 times. So at least he is recognizing when he is tired, even if he did not go to sleep right then. They actually napped really well today, and so did my cousin's daughter, I even got to sneak in a 30min nap before Tucker called me to bring him pants because he wet his pants for the second day in a row (ugh! A whole other vent!).
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    So I guess its my turn to not get naps out of my babes. I know Bradley is having a hard time with teeth but I can't figure out Kaylee. I looked and I cant see any sitting there like I did with Brad. I guess every baby handles it differently but now they are refusing to nap for more then 1/2. Or are they getting big enough that they can stay awake that much longer? I wouldnt mind them not napping if they STTN but they dont. I guess I'll have to put the house cleaning on hold...darn it all, I was so looking forward to it
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    Rachel, I don't think you need to put them to bed any later. I think if they are getting 11 hours at night, then you can expect them to nap at least one hour. I think the hard part is that you cannot completely remove all stimulus from their room because they have each other. They can play and talk, etc. and keep themselves awake. I think they will nap as they need it, and you will probably have some really good days and really horrendous days. Somehow, it all evens out.

    Oh, and I am pretty sure my girls are getting 1 1/2 hours at most at daycare. I think they goof around instead of sleeping because they are on cots and not in a PnP. At home, they can sleep up to 3 hours for a nap, but they are in their crib and cannot go anywhere. All they have is each other, their blankets, a book or two, and a stuffed animal. There is only so much you can do to amuse yourself before you get sleepy, kwim?

    Krista - I am sure the babies are needing less sleep. It seems like it is all trial and error for the first year. I think my girls ended up in a nice routine by about 4 months, but it went out the window on occasion. Then, when they transitioned to one nap a day at about a year, it was an adjustment. You will get it and eventually get more rest.
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    The only think I can suggest is to put them to bed earlier. Try a 7:00 bedtime instead of 8. They should sleep until 7 still, but they won't be as crazy crabby as at 8.

    We are having trouble with sleeping in general. My approach to naps is to get Silas to fall asleep next to me in the rocking chair, take him to bed, then try to get Spark down. There are a lot of things that can go wrong with that though. Silas might not sleep, or Spark may scream if I leave her alone, or, as happened this morning, I get Spark to sleep first, take her to the room, and Silas FLIPS OUT and Spark wakes up. >.< Sometimes they just refuse to sleep, even at night. And they never sleep past 5am. >.< This move really messed up their schedules.

    Here's what "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child" has to say.

    "A common cause of no-napping occurs when the child drops the morning nap but the parents do not make the bedtime a little earlier. Over many weeks or months your child develops "cumulative sleepiness" until he hits a wall and becomes way overtired. in this state, it is difficult for him to nap because his body is geared up to fight the fatigue. When you try to reestablish the nap, he either just plays in his crib, or cries, or a combination of both.
    If your child is under three years old, try a temporary super-early bedtime to help him wake up better rested. In other words, for four or five nights, put him to sleep when he is drowsy at 5 or 5:30 (If he is fussy or irritable or cranky or rubbing his eyes, he is overtired. Drowsiness happens before this, and is showed by decreased activity, slower motions, quieter, calmer, yawning, eyelids drooping, less vocal) This might backfire and cause him to wake up too early, but on those mornings, leave him be until 6am. Often, the early bedtime will help erase his sleep debt so he is more able to relax and take a nap. To help reestablish the nap habit, you might want to have intense morning stimulation, and an extra long and soothing nap ritual. Leaving him alone in his crib for no more than one hour, even if he cries, often will allow the nap to occur because he is tired and not recieving any stimulation from his parents...Once the naptime has been reestablished, the bedtime can be made a little later. children who slip in and out of good sleep patterns are usually the ones who are always going to bed slightly too late. They don't usually have major problems, but they are always on the edge of becoming overtired and they easily and quickly become overtired whenever there is a disruption of sleep routines."

    Hope that helps!
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    I must admit I did the sitting in their room thing lol!! We made the switch to toddler beds just after their 2nd birthday. And they shared a room. So nap time then turned into a free for all since they could just get out of bed and play. So I would sit in their room for 15 minutes or so until they both fell asleep and then I would get a good nap from them. I honestly didn't mind sitting there for that 15 minutes if it meant happy babies It worked well for about a year.

    Once it started taking much longer to fall asleep - over 30 minutes - I just couldn't do it anymore. They both ended up dropping the nap a little over 3 years old. And that was fine with me. We still had "rest time" for an hour in the afternoon and sometimes Emma would fall asleep if she needed it. She still occasionally will nap during rest time (they were 5 in Oct.) but that usually means a very late bedtime
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