ack people are crazy

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ack people are crazy

I took some holiday photo's for a co-worker (him, his wife and their 1yr old), just outdoor group shots. I had no problem doing them since he told me his attempt was the old "hold the camera at arms length and take a snap" so I felt confident I could do better haha

Well they loved the pics and his wife was showing off her cards to her mommy group and he came by this morning and said some of them wanted my contact info :eek: um wth do I do? You know my pics, I'm not that good

I mean as long as there are absolutely no expectations but it still scares the crap out of me

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Hey, I say go for it!! A friend of mine and I have done that with several of our friends...there's no better way to get practice working with other people and learning more about shooting and your camera! As long as you explain to them your level of knowledge, and that you're still learning and make no promises, why worry? And hey, they're getting free pics out of the deal, right? And remember, you're your own worst critic...you're bound to take something they will like!

My friend and I even made some computer-printed "business" cards that we hand out when we're out and about, say at the park, snapping pics. We've had some good luck and some good shots that way!

Here's a site with some pics we've taken, for free, of some friends! We even did a senior shoot for a girl who's mother asked for her MONEY BACK for the professional shots they had done because ours rocked so much more!

Absolute Shutterbugs

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Yay! That sounds great and terrifying at the same time Smile

Just tell them what you are feeling that way there isn't this huge expectation on their part. But I'm willing to bet you are going to wow them!

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You do whatever you want! If you are interested in photographing other people for the chance to improve, snatch it up!!!

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of course I def want to improve and as you know our little boo's are not the most co-operative haha

I never thought I would do photography as a buisness just for fun and just for friends. I def would love the chance to improve I'm just worried I'm not even at that stage yet kwim? I guess you're never really ready I just wish I was better.

Do I even charge a nominal fee for my time and editing time?
man I was not planning on this much thinking so early on

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We are not charging, but I would be clear that you will be doing limited editing. We shot some "free" senior pictures a while back, which was fun and a GREAT learning experience, and we were doing limited editing of our own anyway, and that was fine. But the mom wanted some really specific edits that took a REALLY long time (I have to admit, I didn't do the work!) and at the end of the day, Mandy (the other "newbie" I shoot with) ended up putting a LOT of work into the final product, and we decided we would NOT be doing that again! In the future, we'll be clear that our "time" would consist of the shoot and whatever edits we were doing anyway, and any other requests might require charging for our time!

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You would be doing what is called "skill building" which you should not charge at all for. When I did it, I gave a disk of non-printable sized watermarked images..but you absolutely do NOT have to do that. I also put the full size images up on MPIX so that I didn't have to mess with the ordering of pictures at all!

Again...you do what you feel comfortable doing. You should get a contract that very clearly states what they should expect and that you have the right to use the photos for portfolio purposes in case you ever decide to go that route.

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Even if you're not charging, make sure you have a contract in place stating the exact obligations, etc. It may save you some heartache in the future!

ETA- Amber beat me on that one! Smile

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I agree, what a great way to practice! I got a phone call yesterday from a friend wanting me to take some pics for her and her little ones. I agreed, even though it's not the best season, but I will work for it! Biggrin Not charging her one bit, but I am giving her a copy to all the pics.

Sort of hijacking here-
As for the contracts.....does anyone have one they are willing to send? If I get some people asking for pics (Randall's co-workers) I would like to have one on hand. Thanks!

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"sadieruth" wrote:

Sort of hijacking here-
As for the contracts.....does anyone have one they are willing to send? If I get some people asking for pics (Randall's co-workers) I would like to have one on hand. Thanks!

not a hijack I also wonder the same thing

ok thanks ladies

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have fun and enjoy the opportunity to photograph people who WANT their pics taken!

a fellow boardmember sent me a sample "portfolio building" contract a while back - I'd be happy to share it with any who are interested. It came in handy for me with the few people who were willing to let me practice on them. Smile

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GiGi

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Gigi - I'd be interested in seeing a copy of that contract if you don't mind. I'll PM you my email address!

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that is a great opportunity that you should definitely do! Biggrin

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"newtomom" wrote:

Gigi - I'd be interested in seeing a copy of that contract if you don't mind. I'll PM you my email address!

me too, pm'ing you now

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thats the best way to get practice!! Just let them know up front that you are portfolio building.

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Heck I never would have learned anything if I didn't do the same type of stuff for people! Sounds like a great learning opportunity to me. Relax and have fun...you'll do great!

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everything I do is for free ... in fact, I think I'm going to back out of the wedding I said I'd do because I'm just not wanting to do it as a business, the stress might get to me. Lol

so I think if you have the time and you want to do it, go ahead and give your contact info and set it up. just make sure you manage expectations - people can't expect you to drop your family life in order to edit their photos when you're doing it for free. I always tell people that it will be two weeks before I get them their "proofs" (but I get it done sooner because I love doing it).

and that's awesome that others want you to shoot them!!! (that sounds so funny, doesn't it?)